Mass charging - how will it work ?
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Just something that popped into my head a few months ago. My sister works as a rep for a national company - she covers south and west wales. In winter she struggled when she had a loan car ( electric) because she couldn’t charge it enough on her largely rural route.
She got her ice car back after it had been repaired.
Back in Feb they had their annual sales conference in London (O2 I think). 800 reps from around the country went there for 3 days. So people driving from all over the UK, parking up and going to conference. No problem.
However. . .
From January next year the entire sales fleet is going electric. How will 800 electric cars all charge up after making long trips from around the UK?
Won’t it be chaos ? Even if they have, say, 40 charge points. How will everyone get recharged before the end of the conference without people running in and out, moving their cars, getting alerts to move their car once it is charged etc etc. I have nothing against electric cars particularly but how would this work ? 800 cars on low charge turning up at once.
Anyone have a solution ?
She got her ice car back after it had been repaired.
Back in Feb they had their annual sales conference in London (O2 I think). 800 reps from around the country went there for 3 days. So people driving from all over the UK, parking up and going to conference. No problem.
However. . .
From January next year the entire sales fleet is going electric. How will 800 electric cars all charge up after making long trips from around the UK?
Won’t it be chaos ? Even if they have, say, 40 charge points. How will everyone get recharged before the end of the conference without people running in and out, moving their cars, getting alerts to move their car once it is charged etc etc. I have nothing against electric cars particularly but how would this work ? 800 cars on low charge turning up at once.
Anyone have a solution ?
Sheepshanks said:
I know it’s Wales, but if she covers such a big area how does the company have 800 reps? I worked for a company that had 40 reps and we had several in Wales.
Anyway, only a few of ‘em will need to charge at the venue.
800 is huge. Anyway, only a few of ‘em will need to charge at the venue.
We didn't have anywhere near that but used to car share or coach for national events
Seems a fair question. There may not be 800 cars due to car sharing, and those that are there may not all need charging; however there’s likely to be a large number that could do with a charge and where better to do it than while you’re bored senseless for hours at a conference? I predict a total kerfuffle.
- Many would be on public transport if somewhere like the O2 is the destination. It's London and it's conference, drinky-drinky.
- Again, London, if there's a need to pull in some HV, they'll pull HV.
The specific scenario isn't really important though; the question is "how do you deal with a lot of EV charging in one place?" and the answer is with a lot of capacity.
- Again, London, if there's a need to pull in some HV, they'll pull HV.
The specific scenario isn't really important though; the question is "how do you deal with a lot of EV charging in one place?" and the answer is with a lot of capacity.
snuffy said:
The solution is to ignore the problem.
If its good enough to be official government policy, its good enough for a company policy.
Pretty much thisIf its good enough to be official government policy, its good enough for a company policy.
My partner noticed the other day at her place the company car list if you want to opt in is now exclusively EV.
The building has provision for 850 parking spaces.
There are 6 bays for EV parking / charging.
Only 2 of them currently work though and you get charged at a motorway services rates for using them.
Apparently this charging 'solution' has been outsourced to a another company to manage (who obviously need to make a profit).
Just had a peek - luckily a Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor on 15k miles pa is only £889 x 48mths net deduction from salary lol
And they're complaining / surprised people are all taking the allowance to run used petrol & diesel cars.
It's impacting their ability to hit green targets they signed up to with much fanfare.
Also denting their leverage with the lease company they did a deal with because uptake / volumes are so low... so staff have been told if more people don't get onboard then prices will go up. Yeah, that tactic will definitely work won't it.
Just reeks of typical big-corporate-clown-land to me, you really couldn't make it up if you tried
Edited by Gigamoons on Sunday 2nd July 10:17
WonkeyDonkey said:
Zoom.
This. A company spending a vast amount of time, money and resources for very little reason needs to take a look at itself. Even if some do give lifts to others and some used public transport there still could be a few hundred extra cars looking for charge. Totally pointless exercise.LesXRN said:
They could all park at their local train station and, well, you know the rest!
This.Alternatively, there is no way everyone will drive to the same car park and expect to charge their cars while they are there. There isn't a "spare" 800 space car park in the country.
I went to a concert in Manchester three weeks ago - far enough from home for my car to require a charge from nearly empty. I parked out of town at the tram station, leaving my car on charge while I was there, and returned to a full charge later that night. There were more charge points than demand (which has been my experience nearly everywhere I've been so far). I imagine as demand increases, so will the number of charge points.
swanseaboydan said:
Just something that popped into my head a few months ago. My sister works as a rep for a national company - she covers south and west wales. In winter she struggled when she had a loan car ( electric) because she couldn’t charge it enough on her largely rural route.
She got her ice car back after it had been repaired.
Back in Feb they had their annual sales conference in London (O2 I think). 800 reps from around the country went there for 3 days. So people driving from all over the UK, parking up and going to conference. No problem.
However. . .
From January next year the entire sales fleet is going electric. How will 800 electric cars all charge up after making long trips from around the UK?
Won’t it be chaos ? Even if they have, say, 40 charge points. How will everyone get recharged before the end of the conference without people running in and out, moving their cars, getting alerts to move their car once it is charged etc etc. I have nothing against electric cars particularly but how would this work ? 800 cars on low charge turning up at once.
Anyone have a solution ?
The company should have future conferences in Oxford or Edinburgh then. Problem solved. Panic over :-)She got her ice car back after it had been repaired.
Back in Feb they had their annual sales conference in London (O2 I think). 800 reps from around the country went there for 3 days. So people driving from all over the UK, parking up and going to conference. No problem.
However. . .
From January next year the entire sales fleet is going electric. How will 800 electric cars all charge up after making long trips from around the UK?
Won’t it be chaos ? Even if they have, say, 40 charge points. How will everyone get recharged before the end of the conference without people running in and out, moving their cars, getting alerts to move their car once it is charged etc etc. I have nothing against electric cars particularly but how would this work ? 800 cars on low charge turning up at once.
Anyone have a solution ?
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