M5 Moto Exeter Hub - heads up

M5 Moto Exeter Hub - heads up

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Diderot

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7,896 posts

197 months

Saturday 1st July 2023
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En-route to Cornwall, came through there yesterday morning; did get a charge but it was very busy, with people queuing (we got a slot straight away though and good speeds). Major upgrades and expansion happening to the Tesla chargers and the Gridserve ones. But currently roughly half of the Gridserve chargers are out of use.

TheDrownedApe

1,151 posts

61 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Thanks for the heads up but I got used to stopping at Cullompton before they built these and still stop there first. Exeter is my backup.

Infact no I don't use Cullompton, its awful, slow, expensive and always busy. Stay away at all costs.

eliot

11,682 posts

259 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages

AKjr

469 posts

16 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
Okay mate, if you say so

Diderot

Original Poster:

7,896 posts

197 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
driving

It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.

In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.

eliot

11,682 posts

259 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
driving

It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.

In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
where i typically go in north Devon there’s no destination charging. I frankly couldn’t give a monkeys about cost and certainly not over convenience, I’ve driven thirsty v8 nearly all my driving life.

Richtea1970

1,302 posts

65 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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eliot said:
where i typically go in north Devon there’s no destination charging. I frankly couldn’t give a monkeys about cost and certainly not over convenience, I’ve driven thirsty v8 nearly all my driving life.
So what’s your point? Odd comments to be adding to a post that’s simply updating other EV drivers about charge point availability?

Diderot

Original Poster:

7,896 posts

197 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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eliot said:
Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
driving

It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.

In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
where i typically go in north Devon there’s no destination charging. I frankly couldn’t give a monkeys about cost and certainly not over convenience, I’ve driven thirsty v8 nearly all my driving life.
Are there no plug sockets in North Devon? (Rhetorical question). You do realise that you can charge a BEV from anywhere that has electricity? You’re not thinking this through properly are you?

eliot

11,682 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Diderot said:
eliot said:
Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
driving

It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.

In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
where i typically go in north Devon there’s no destination charging. I frankly couldn’t give a monkeys about cost and certainly not over convenience, I’ve driven thirsty v8 nearly all my driving life.
Are there no plug sockets in North Devon? (Rhetorical question). You do realise that you can charge a BEV from anywhere that has electricity? You’re not thinking this through properly are you?
I visit a holiday park in ND, the static caravans are fed with relatively low power feeds, mainly 32A, some as low at 16A - if even a small fraction of those people were pulling a couple kw for 10 hours or more using just a granny charger it would severely overload the site of hundreds of static caravans.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.

Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.

I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.

My original post was more about recalling the smugness from some in the ev community when ice people were worrying about where they were going to fill up next. Tesla smashed it with their charging infrastructure, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired.

TheDrownedApe

1,151 posts

61 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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eliot said:
I visit a holiday park in ND, the static caravans are fed with relatively low power feeds, mainly 32A, some as low at 16A - if even a small fraction of those people were pulling a couple kw for 10 hours or more using just a granny charger it would severely overload the site of hundreds of static caravans.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.

Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.

I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.

My original post was more about recalling the smugness from some in the ev community when ice people were worrying about where they were going to fill up next. Tesla smashed it with their charging infrastructure, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired.
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.

eliot

11,682 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.
Yes, I'm taking about Croyde funny enough - and a few cars plugged in won't be a problem, but can you imagine the draw in just a few years when there's far more cars that want to charge even on granny chargers. Plus the site owners aren't going to be happy with the massive power draw in terms of cost - which means the increased costs will be passed onto all - or indeed they ban people hooking cars up to their caravans (more likely, because it's easier)

Nomme de Plum

5,725 posts

21 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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eliot said:
TheDrownedApe said:
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.
Yes, I'm taking about Croyde funny enough - and a few cars plugged in won't be a problem, but can you imagine the draw in just a few years when there's far more cars that want to charge even on granny chargers. Plus the site owners aren't going to be happy with the massive power draw in terms of cost - which means the increased costs will be passed onto all - or indeed they ban people hooking cars up to their caravans (more likely, because it's easier)
The Marinas near me now provide charging points in their car parks. Very limited at the moment and they are largely unused. As EV take up increases and charge point demand increases more will be added.

Camping/Caravan sites will be no different. Electrical infrastructure needs renewing from time to time anyway to stay regulation compliant.

We have 33M cars in the UK and replace 1.5M per year. Current EV total is under 800K.

It's not really going to be an issue for at least another decade, but probably much longer.

573

367 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th July 2023
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eliot said:
I visit a holiday park in ND, the static caravans are fed with relatively low power feeds, mainly 32A, some as low at 16A - if even a small fraction of those people were pulling a couple kw for 10 hours or more using just a granny charger it would severely overload the site of hundreds of static caravans.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.

Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.

I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
Man who holidays in static caravan, stting in a cupboard next to his family, feels the need to tell people on the internet that they're doing it wrong. LMAO

Pit Pony

9,114 posts

126 months

Wednesday 5th July 2023
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AKjr said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
Okay mate, if you say so
No we petrol heads are actually laughing.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

192 months

Wednesday 5th July 2023
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Pit Pony said:
AKjr said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
Okay mate, if you say so
No we petrol heads are actually laughing.
Those fumes do strange things to people...