M5 Moto Exeter Hub - heads up
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En-route to Cornwall, came through there yesterday morning; did get a charge but it was very busy, with people queuing (we got a slot straight away though and good speeds). Major upgrades and expansion happening to the Tesla chargers and the Gridserve ones. But currently roughly half of the Gridserve chargers are out of use.
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.
In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.
In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
eliot said:
where i typically go in north Devon there’s no destination charging. I frankly couldn’t give a monkeys about cost and certainly not over convenience, I’ve driven thirsty v8 nearly all my driving life.
So what’s your point? Odd comments to be adding to a post that’s simply updating other EV drivers about charge point availability?eliot said:
Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.
In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
Diderot said:
eliot said:
Diderot said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
It’s magic it is. We filled up with electrons at home for £7 (which is also a business expense, and saves me corp tax theft). From the south coast, we stopped for 28 mins at Exeter whilst having a pee and a Costa, grabbed 51% of electrons for £19 ish. Arrived 250 ish miles away from home in Cornwall with 33% SOC, and the hotel dishes out free electrons. So back to 100% this morning. Same on the way back. 500 miles for £45.
In my Merc SL that’d be £200 ish. I obviously wish I didn’t have a BEV company through my Ltd, obviously.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.
Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.
I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
My original post was more about recalling the smugness from some in the ev community when ice people were worrying about where they were going to fill up next. Tesla smashed it with their charging infrastructure, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired.
eliot said:
I visit a holiday park in ND, the static caravans are fed with relatively low power feeds, mainly 32A, some as low at 16A - if even a small fraction of those people were pulling a couple kw for 10 hours or more using just a granny charger it would severely overload the site of hundreds of static caravans.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.
Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.
I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
My original post was more about recalling the smugness from some in the ev community when ice people were worrying about where they were going to fill up next. Tesla smashed it with their charging infrastructure, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired.
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.
Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.
I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
My original post was more about recalling the smugness from some in the ev community when ice people were worrying about where they were going to fill up next. Tesla smashed it with their charging infrastructure, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired.
TheDrownedApe said:
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.
Yes, I'm taking about Croyde funny enough - and a few cars plugged in won't be a problem, but can you imagine the draw in just a few years when there's far more cars that want to charge even on granny chargers. Plus the site owners aren't going to be happy with the massive power draw in terms of cost - which means the increased costs will be passed onto all - or indeed they ban people hooking cars up to their caravans (more likely, because it's easier)eliot said:
TheDrownedApe said:
When the kids go back we go to Woolacombe for some surfing and plug our car in to the caravan over night without issue. However if you want to stick the oven on, or anything that demands power, the drain tends to trip the box.
Yes, I'm taking about Croyde funny enough - and a few cars plugged in won't be a problem, but can you imagine the draw in just a few years when there's far more cars that want to charge even on granny chargers. Plus the site owners aren't going to be happy with the massive power draw in terms of cost - which means the increased costs will be passed onto all - or indeed they ban people hooking cars up to their caravans (more likely, because it's easier)Camping/Caravan sites will be no different. Electrical infrastructure needs renewing from time to time anyway to stay regulation compliant.
We have 33M cars in the UK and replace 1.5M per year. Current EV total is under 800K.
It's not really going to be an issue for at least another decade, but probably much longer.
eliot said:
I visit a holiday park in ND, the static caravans are fed with relatively low power feeds, mainly 32A, some as low at 16A - if even a small fraction of those people were pulling a couple kw for 10 hours or more using just a granny charger it would severely overload the site of hundreds of static caravans.
And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.
Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.
I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
Man who holidays in static caravan, stting in a cupboard next to his family, feels the need to tell people on the internet that they're doing it wrong. LMAO And if you are camping or touring caravan - forget it.
Yes you can charge your car at tescos several miles away - but it's a less than ideal situation and with thousands of cars arriving, that handful of charge stations will be occupied.
I'm not anti anything - but the infrastructure still has a very long way to come - especially as you get more rural. I dont want to be planning my holiday playing dot-to-dot between charging stations - but each to their own.
Pit Pony said:
AKjr said:
eliot said:
ev charge point anxiety - karma for those that were laughing at the ice drivers having filling station anxiety during the petrol shortages
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