GV60 is it worth the £100pm more?
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Hi all
Looking to get an EV via work salary sacrifice, we’ve now test driven the usual suspects in the SUV type range. Wife loves Mercs and she was happy when I said that the EQC (premium plus) was an option for us ( happy wife happy life etc
). However, a couple of weeks ago we were in Battersea and saw the Genesis ‘showroom’ we both quite liked the GV 60 and subsequently arranged a test drive. It’s now (I think) a question of which one out of the 2 ie the Merc which despite being a more expensive car to purchase outright is just over £100 pm cheaper via my work scheme than the othe GV60. Anyone any opinions or thoughts on either and/or whether in their view the genesis is worth £100 pm more than the Merc
NB as mentioned at the top we’ve driven and priced up all the usual suspects and they were either too much on the scheme or we just didn’t gel with the car. So it really is Merc or Genesis
Looking to get an EV via work salary sacrifice, we’ve now test driven the usual suspects in the SUV type range. Wife loves Mercs and she was happy when I said that the EQC (premium plus) was an option for us ( happy wife happy life etc
). However, a couple of weeks ago we were in Battersea and saw the Genesis ‘showroom’ we both quite liked the GV 60 and subsequently arranged a test drive. It’s now (I think) a question of which one out of the 2 ie the Merc which despite being a more expensive car to purchase outright is just over £100 pm cheaper via my work scheme than the othe GV60. Anyone any opinions or thoughts on either and/or whether in their view the genesis is worth £100 pm more than the MercNB as mentioned at the top we’ve driven and priced up all the usual suspects and they were either too much on the scheme or we just didn’t gel with the car. So it really is Merc or Genesis
Forrest1 said:
Hi all
Looking to get an EV via work salary sacrifice, we’ve now test driven the usual suspects in the SUV type range. Wife loves Mercs and she was happy when I said that the EQC (premium plus) was an option for us ( happy wife happy life etc ). However, a couple of weeks ago we were in Battersea and saw the Genesis ‘showroom’ we both quite liked the GV 60 and subsequently arranged a test drive. It’s now (I think) a question of which one out of the 2 ie the Merc which despite being a more expensive car to purchase outright is just over £100 pm cheaper via my work scheme than the othe GV60. Anyone any opinions or thoughts on either and/or whether in their view the genesis is worth £100 pm more than the Merc
NB as mentioned at the top we’ve driven and priced up all the usual suspects and they were either too much on the scheme or we just didn’t gel with the car. So it really is Merc or Genesis
I've ran an EQC for two years now and it's been pretty good. There was an issue with the air suspension pump though, when it gets really cold moisture freezes in it and burns it out, and the car ends up with a saggy rear. It's a lovely place to sit and a good cruiser but the range is not good. Typically around 200 miles, but only very occasionally more than that (today seems to be a sweet spot as it hit an indicated 230). Looking to get an EV via work salary sacrifice, we’ve now test driven the usual suspects in the SUV type range. Wife loves Mercs and she was happy when I said that the EQC (premium plus) was an option for us ( happy wife happy life etc
). However, a couple of weeks ago we were in Battersea and saw the Genesis ‘showroom’ we both quite liked the GV 60 and subsequently arranged a test drive. It’s now (I think) a question of which one out of the 2 ie the Merc which despite being a more expensive car to purchase outright is just over £100 pm cheaper via my work scheme than the othe GV60. Anyone any opinions or thoughts on either and/or whether in their view the genesis is worth £100 pm more than the MercNB as mentioned at the top we’ve driven and priced up all the usual suspects and they were either too much on the scheme or we just didn’t gel with the car. So it really is Merc or Genesis
If you can live with the poor range then it's a great choice - if you regularly do trips over 200 miles then it's not.
The GV60 will have a considerable edge in both range and charging speed (800v) so if you're doing a lot of longer journeys would definitely be the pick. If not then as you've test driven both I don't really know what advice you are looking for.
Personally just the looks of the Genesis would put me off if given the choice between the two, but that's entirely subjective of course.
Personally just the looks of the Genesis would put me off if given the choice between the two, but that's entirely subjective of course.
PistonTim said:
The Genesis will be more than the Merc likely due to a much steeper depreciation curve.
I'd guess that with the current EQC nearing its end of life they are being heavily subsidized by Mercedes at this point. Launched in 2019, unlike competitors it's had no real updates in that time, and production is due to end this year in favour of the new EQE.An excellent and very refined EV despite being a little long in the tooth, assuming the above mentioned limitations in range and charging speed aren't an issue of course .
SWoll said:
I'd guess that with the current EQC nearing its end of life they are being heavily subsidized by Mercedes at this point. Launched in 2019, unlike competitors it's had no real updates in that time, and production is due to end this year in favour of the new EQE.
An excellent and very refined EV despite being a little long in the tooth, assuming the above mentioned limitations in range and charging speed aren't an issue of course .
EQC is being replaced by the next version of a medium sized electric SUV (or whatever they decide to call that version in 2024), not by the EQEAn excellent and very refined EV despite being a little long in the tooth, assuming the above mentioned limitations in range and charging speed aren't an issue of course .
https://www.electrive.com/2023/05/24/mercedes-to-l...
I've had a GV60 Premium (RWD) for 8months now. Predicted range has varied from 260 in the darkest winter to 290 these summer days. My commute is all Motorway and I don't drive for "eco" as it's only 30miles to work and I have charging available at both ends.
I have no regrets despite buying "blind" - I had an EV6 on order that was repeatedly delayed and a small number of these were available with immediate delivery. It's a very relaxed cruiser with "enough" go for overtaking etc, but I have a petrol toy for weekends.
The aftercare is a bit hard work - I had a vibration that took "too long" to get resolved, mainly as customer team varied from "you are imagining it" to "all electric cars do that", but we appear to be sorted now.
The EQC was cheap when I ordered mine also, but as stated the range and charging speed were "not great". I also feel like MB build quality is not what it once was (and we've owned Merc in the past) but your opinion may vary.
Feel free to ask any questions. It does get a lot of positive comments and questions from strangers, but then mine is Sao Paulo Lime. Might be more discreet in a more sensible colour!
I have no regrets despite buying "blind" - I had an EV6 on order that was repeatedly delayed and a small number of these were available with immediate delivery. It's a very relaxed cruiser with "enough" go for overtaking etc, but I have a petrol toy for weekends.
The aftercare is a bit hard work - I had a vibration that took "too long" to get resolved, mainly as customer team varied from "you are imagining it" to "all electric cars do that", but we appear to be sorted now.
The EQC was cheap when I ordered mine also, but as stated the range and charging speed were "not great". I also feel like MB build quality is not what it once was (and we've owned Merc in the past) but your opinion may vary.
Feel free to ask any questions. It does get a lot of positive comments and questions from strangers, but then mine is Sao Paulo Lime. Might be more discreet in a more sensible colour!
I can't tell you whether it's worth £100pm more, but it would be the GV60 for me. I almost feel like the EQC was dated even when it first came out, whereas the GV60 (being based on the EV6 and Ioniq 5) is pretty much a cutting edge EV. I'm also a big fan of the looks, and the interior (based on spending a few minutes sitting in one at Fully Charged Show) is a lovely place to be.
ian_c_uk said:
I've had a GV60 Premium (RWD) for 8months now. Predicted range has varied from 260 in the darkest winter to 290 these summer days. My commute is all Motorway and I don't drive for "eco" as it's only 30miles to work and I have charging available at both ends.
I have no regrets despite buying "blind" - I had an EV6 on order that was repeatedly delayed and a small number of these were available with immediate delivery. It's a very relaxed cruiser with "enough" go for overtaking etc, but I have a petrol toy for weekends.
The aftercare is a bit hard work - I had a vibration that took "too long" to get resolved, mainly as customer team varied from "you are imagining it" to "all electric cars do that", but we appear to be sorted now.
The EQC was cheap when I ordered mine also, but as stated the range and charging speed were "not great". I also feel like MB build quality is not what it once was (and we've owned Merc in the past) but your opinion may vary.
Feel free to ask any questions. It does get a lot of positive comments and questions from strangers, but then mine is Sao Paulo Lime. Might be more discreet in a more sensible colour!
Thanks for that, I might just drop a couple of questions your way I have no regrets despite buying "blind" - I had an EV6 on order that was repeatedly delayed and a small number of these were available with immediate delivery. It's a very relaxed cruiser with "enough" go for overtaking etc, but I have a petrol toy for weekends.
The aftercare is a bit hard work - I had a vibration that took "too long" to get resolved, mainly as customer team varied from "you are imagining it" to "all electric cars do that", but we appear to be sorted now.
The EQC was cheap when I ordered mine also, but as stated the range and charging speed were "not great". I also feel like MB build quality is not what it once was (and we've owned Merc in the past) but your opinion may vary.
Feel free to ask any questions. It does get a lot of positive comments and questions from strangers, but then mine is Sao Paulo Lime. Might be more discreet in a more sensible colour!
ajap1979 said:
I can't tell you whether it's worth £100pm more, but it would be the GV60 for me. I almost feel like the EQC was dated even when it first came out, whereas the GV60 (being based on the EV6 and Ioniq 5) is pretty much a cutting edge EV. I'm also a big fan of the looks, and the interior (based on spending a few minutes sitting in one at Fully Charged Show) is a lovely place to be.
The EQC is still one of, if not the, most refined and comfortable EV's around which also offers good dynamics and performance. It also has a more traditional interior with less reliance on touchscreens and is a proper SUV rather than crossover like the GV60.If that suits your requirements then it's still a great car.
SWoll said:
ajap1979 said:
I can't tell you whether it's worth £100pm more, but it would be the GV60 for me. I almost feel like the EQC was dated even when it first came out, whereas the GV60 (being based on the EV6 and Ioniq 5) is pretty much a cutting edge EV. I'm also a big fan of the looks, and the interior (based on spending a few minutes sitting in one at Fully Charged Show) is a lovely place to be.
The EQC is still one of, if not the, most refined and comfortable EV's around which also offers good dynamics and performance. It also has a more traditional interior with less reliance on touchscreens and is a proper SUV rather than crossover like the GV60.If that suits your requirements then it's still a great car.
Forest1 - what sort of driving will you be doing? Think that's the key to the "value" difference.
If you're not doing long trips (200 Mile +) then I doubt the GV60s strongest points (range & charge speed) over the EQC will make any difference.
However, if you have regular long trips then the extra range & charge speed will be worth it.
If you're not doing long trips (200 Mile +) then I doubt the GV60s strongest points (range & charge speed) over the EQC will make any difference.
However, if you have regular long trips then the extra range & charge speed will be worth it.
ajap1979 said:
SWoll said:
ajap1979 said:
I can't tell you whether it's worth £100pm more, but it would be the GV60 for me. I almost feel like the EQC was dated even when it first came out, whereas the GV60 (being based on the EV6 and Ioniq 5) is pretty much a cutting edge EV. I'm also a big fan of the looks, and the interior (based on spending a few minutes sitting in one at Fully Charged Show) is a lovely place to be.
The EQC is still one of, if not the, most refined and comfortable EV's around which also offers good dynamics and performance. It also has a more traditional interior with less reliance on touchscreens and is a proper SUV rather than crossover like the GV60.If that suits your requirements then it's still a great car.
The GV60 is actually quite small, shorter and lower than a Model Y/Ioniq 5 as an example.
SWoll said:
The size of it. It's considerably taller and longer than the GV60 and offers more practicality for both rear seat passengers and luggage.
The GV60 is actually quite small, shorter and lower than a Model Y/Ioniq 5 as an example.
Doesn't the EQC have a transmission tunnel in the rear (given it's based upon an ICE car, rather than being a ground up EV) so rear legroom is not as good as proper EV with a flat floor?The GV60 is actually quite small, shorter and lower than a Model Y/Ioniq 5 as an example.
raspy said:
Doesn't the EQC have a transmission tunnel in the rear (given it's based upon an ICE car, rather than being a ground up EV) so rear legroom is not as good as proper EV with a flat floor?
I consider leg room the gap between rear seat passengers and the front seats? Agree there will be less foot room for the middle seat occupant due to the transmission tunnel though.SydneyBridge said:
Makes sense as that is the class the GV60 falls into (iX1). The EQC, IX3, iPace and q8 etron are all considerably larger and more expensive jimKRFC said:
Forest1 - what sort of driving will you be doing? Think that's the key to the "value" difference.
If you're not doing long trips (200 Mile +) then I doubt the GV60s strongest points (range & charge speed) over the EQC will make any difference.
However, if you have regular long trips then the extra range & charge speed will be worth it.
Hi… for the most part it’s short 10/15 mins local trips, plus every so often (once a month) longer 1hour (30 or so miles each way) motorway to family and then maybe 2-3 pa longer trips for weekends away. Those will be the in the 200 miles range but not really worth choosing a car over If you're not doing long trips (200 Mile +) then I doubt the GV60s strongest points (range & charge speed) over the EQC will make any difference.
However, if you have regular long trips then the extra range & charge speed will be worth it.
SWoll said:
The EQC is still one of, if not the, most refined and comfortable EV's around which also offers good dynamics and performance. It also has a more traditional interior with less reliance on touchscreens and is a proper SUV rather than crossover like the GV60.
Side note - Not sure when I last used the touch screen in my GV60 as all is done through a mix of real physical aluminium buttons and a 5-way joystick/dial. Interior is also traditional in a modern Lexus/Genesis type of style, so if you like the Germanic taste then Merc would be more for you.I agree with Ian - reason I did not swap my 7 year old Lexus (GS450H) for my late father's 6 month old Merc (C class) was build quality and a concern of what the Merc would be like in 3-4 years time (in addition, at the time I would have been able to extend my full manufacturer's warranty to 11.75 years). Not tried the EQC hence me being quiet before.
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