Catchpole drives the McMurtry Speirling

Catchpole drives the McMurtry Speirling

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otolith

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209 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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This thing is pretty staggering. Not surprising that it took Goodwood apart. Starting with a track car, but a road car coming later. 1000bhp, 1000kg, 2000kg of downforce.



Obviously, it's very, very expensive, and I wonder how well the fan assisted ground effect would work on a road car, but the weight is impressive.

RobbyJ

1,608 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Wow, that's seriously impressive. If anyone here's got one on order let me have a go please.

Nomme de Plum

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21 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Apparently according to the video the customer version will be even quicker. Quite an expensive track day car.

I'm not sure I have the stamina to do the 10 lap race range.

Imagine where we will be in an another decade.

Nomme de Plum

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21 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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otolith said:
This thing is pretty staggering. Not surprising that it took Goodwood apart. Starting with a track car, but a road car coming later. 1000bhp, 1000kg, 2000kg of downforce.



Obviously, it's very, very expensive, and I wonder how well the fan assisted ground effect would work on a road car, but the weight is impressive.
It would be very difficult to make it work for a road car. Think of the pot holes. Seriously normal road surfaces are too uneven plus I'm not sure its a good idea have a road car that can corner so fast there is the danger of something coming the other way across the line but no time to react.

otolith

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Thursday 11th May 2023
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Nomme de Plum said:
It would be very difficult to make it work for a road car. Think of the pot holes. Seriously normal road surfaces are too uneven plus I'm not sure its a good idea have a road car that can corner so fast there is the danger of something coming the other way across the line but no time to react.
I guess it might work less effectively (with a greater ride height) and you’d certainly have to be very mindful of other people’s expectations. The braking of the track car would get you rear ended pretty quickly.

jimmytheone

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223 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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I bloody love this car, the look, the tech, the other-worldliness of it. And it would be straight in the euromillions garage except i think it would make me sick! I wouldnt last 10 laps.

Hope they can do a 2-seater as, lets face it, the thing other hypercars can do is give great passenger laps.

Nomme de Plum

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Thursday 11th May 2023
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jimmytheone said:
I bloody love this car, the look, the tech, the other-worldliness of it. And it would be straight in the euromillions garage except i think it would make me sick! I wouldnt last 10 laps.

Hope they can do a 2-seater as, lets face it, the thing other hypercars can do is give great passenger laps.
I think most of us come from an ICE background but i find it disappointing that some of the EV critics do not seem able to applaud and support this technological achievement created by a British company based in Gloucestershire.

Whilst this is very niche I'm sure it will be watched by other specialist car manufacturers and other larger scale companies.

I doubt it the concept will be allowed in Formula E as a future car will simply be too fast.

Diderot

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197 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Thanks for posting.

Amazing technology, design and achievement. It’s heartwarming to see a small UK company pushing so many boundaries. I’d love to see reference times at classic F1 circuits and indeed the Ring vs F1. And how fast would it go around Le Mans.

Utterly bonkers, and utterly brilliant. And something you could plug in on your drive

ETA, I could put it through my Ltd company, zero VED, 2% BIK and corp tax write off. I might not be able to raise the £800k though.

Edited by Diderot on Thursday 11th May 20:06

jimmytheone

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223 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Its fascinating to think where this could take things, its what the world needs - a small, lightweight and truly exciting EV halo car (make a 2 seater).

i guess there's the possibility of a Rimac-style buy-in from big car co, or a standalone specialist like Ricardo, or as a manufacturer in their own right
but whatever, I truly wish them all the best and hope they succeed (so they can make a 2-seater).

Muzzer79

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192 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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For me it’s the sheer pace of the thing. It genuinely looks like it’s body-altering.

Also, faster than an F1 car around Silverstone? And not by a small amount?
That is astonishingly quick for something anyone can just go and buy, then drive without needing to be Jenson Button.

Nomme de Plum

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21 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
For me it’s the sheer pace of the thing. It genuinely looks like it’s body-altering.

Also, faster than an F1 car around Silverstone? And not by a small amount?
That is astonishingly quick for something anyone can just go and buy, then drive without needing to be Jenson Button.
But, but but,

What if you unexpectedly need to tow a caravan from Lands End to John o'Groats every day in mid winter in a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. Until EVs can do that they are no good to anyone. And anyway, the batteries only last 10 minutes and then you can't recycle them, you have to bury then in landfill under a primary school for disabled children.

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RobbyJ

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227 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Nomme de Plum said:
But, but but,

What if you unexpectedly need to tow a caravan from Lands End to John o'Groats every day in mid winter in a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. Until EVs can do that they are no good to anyone. And anyway, the batteries only last 10 minutes and then you can't recycle them, you have to bury then in landfill under a primary school for disabled children.

(not my copyright)
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off_again

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239 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:

That is astonishingly quick for something anyone can just go and buy, then drive without needing to be Jenson Button.
Not so sure. I am no Jenson Button and I am pretty aware of my capabilities and I am pretty sure I would stuff it into the kitty litter pretty damn quickly. Something to do with lacking the reflexes, fitness or experience to handle something that can bend the laws of physics like this.

hehe

It is the prefect pub car though - Top Trumps better get updated soon!

TheDeuce

24,249 posts

71 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Nomme de Plum said:
Apparently according to the video the customer version will be even quicker. Quite an expensive track day car.

I'm not sure I have the stamina to do the 10 lap race range.

Imagine where we will be in an another decade.
I think you've answered your own question there mate.. You don't have the stamina, the neck muscles, the reflexes... who does!? This car can out turn and out accelerate an F1 car.

Until humans somehow get better/stronger/faster, this is about the practical limit of what anyone can drive at 100% for more than a very short period.


SWoll

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263 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Previous thread here for those interested.

Terminator X

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209 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Nomme de Plum said:
Apparently according to the video the customer version will be even quicker. Quite an expensive track day car.

I'm not sure I have the stamina to do the 10 lap race range.

Imagine where we will be in an another decade.
Fast EVs banned?

TX.

otolith

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Thursday 11th May 2023
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TheDeuce said:
I think you've answered your own question there mate.. You don't have the stamina, the neck muscles, the reflexes... who does!? This car can out turn and out accelerate an F1 car.

Until humans somehow get better/stronger/faster, this is about the practical limit of what anyone can drive at 100% for more than a very short period.
Interesting, though, that you can turn down the downforce to a level you’re comfortable with, and it appears to handle as well as grip.

TheDeuce

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71 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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otolith said:
TheDeuce said:
I think you've answered your own question there mate.. You don't have the stamina, the neck muscles, the reflexes... who does!? This car can out turn and out accelerate an F1 car.

Until humans somehow get better/stronger/faster, this is about the practical limit of what anyone can drive at 100% for more than a very short period.
Interesting, though, that you can turn down the downforce to a level you’re comfortable with, and it appears to handle as well as grip.
Yes it's great that you can enjoy it at a level you're comfortable with. But to go as fast as possible through the twisty bits, you need the fan downforce. We can clearly see the car could go faster than anyone can drive it consistently - it melts the brain. That's my point, we're now at the human limit - we could easily design an even faster car, in fact a couple of people have. The McMurtry is the only one to have ever left the drawing board though...

So where do we go now? We already have SUV's that can corner flat and hit 60 in less than 3 seconds thanks to the electric motor.. Perhaps road cars with a low drag hyper speed mode that enables 200 mph under computer control on dedicated highways...? Going to have to do something useful and practical with our new found ability to make any car stupidly rapid. Hill climbs and pissing on F1 cars is good fun but of limited real world appeal biggrin

ETA: Although for balance, obviously an electric car can never be proper fun... scratchchin

otolith

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Thursday 11th May 2023
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I guess for a rich track enthusiast the inability to drive it to its limits would become a physical and mental challenge.

Nomme de Plum

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21 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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otolith said:
I guess for a rich track enthusiast the inability to drive it to its limits would become a physical and mental challenge.
I decided to sell my tack focused S1 Exige 380bhp (837kg) when i released i'd built a car far more capable than i was as a driver. It was the point in my life when i stepped away from owning 'interesting' cars.