Guilia Quadrafoglio EV for 2025 with 1000 BHP

[MisterBigglesworth]

Been announced by Stellantis the replacement Guilia is going EV in 2025, with a 350 Bhp base model, 800 bhp veloce and a 1000 bhp Quadrafoglio.

Targeted range is 500 miles.

If they pull these numbers off it should give the Model S a run for its money.

As a current Guilia QV this is the EV I have been most excited about, and will be the EV that makes me switch from ICE. It will be double the power and if they can get the range it will be longer range than the current car can manage.

Hopefully Alfa will stick to their traditional style and not feel compelled to make it look like a EQS blob.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/2025-alf...

[raspy]

1000bhp? Is that all they can get? Seems underpowered.

[GT9]

MisterBigglesworth said:

Hopefully Alfa will stick to their traditional style and not feel compelled to make it look like a EQS blob.

I doubt they can afford to ignore drag coefficient in favour of looks. The best we can hope for is that their blob is more interesting to look at.

[SWoll]

1000hp and 500 miles of range.

Not a chance in this world. Assuming it's going to be based on the Maserati GT Folgore underpinnings (that has a 92.5kWh battery) it would need to do 5.4 miles/kWh which is an utterly ridiculous.

To get anywhere near those claims it'll need a 150kWh battery, weigh 2500-3000KG and cost £150k+

[Nomme de Plum]

SWoll said:

1000hp and 500 miles of range.

Not a chance in this world. Assuming it's going to be based on the Maserati GT Folgore underpinnings (that has a 92.5kWh battery) it would need to do 5.4 miles/kWh which is an utterly ridiculous.

To get anywhere near those claims it'll need a 150kWh battery, weigh 2500-3000KG and cost £150k+

I concur

Whether EV or ICE when available power is used consumption increases accordingly.

[raspy]

SWoll said:

1000hp and 500 miles of range.

Not a chance in this world. Assuming it's going to be based on the Maserati GT Folgore underpinnings (that has a 92.5kWh battery) it would need to do 5.4 miles/kWh which is an utterly ridiculous.

To get anywhere near those claims it'll need a 150kWh battery, weigh 2500-3000KG and cost £150k+

"As well as confirming his power ambitions for the Giulia replacement, Imparato suggested that the EV’s range will be up to 435 miles on the WLTP cycle"

"He previously told Autocar the successor to today’s Giulia would get a less conventional shape, possibly straddling the saloon-estate boundary with a view to attracting more buyers."

"There has been no indication yet of what size battery the new Alfa could use, but Peugeot’s recent Inception coupé concept housed a 100kWh pack in its chassis for a theoretical range of 500 miles, meaning the Giulia theoretically could too."

So probably around 350 miles in the real world then, and kind of blob-like looks for aerodynamics.

Source: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/alfa-r...

[ashenfie]

Seams to me that 1000,2000 or 3000 bhp is all really hyperbol. The improvements EV have made is about managing that power, not increasing it. ICE cars suffer wheel spin because they can regulated the power output as quickly as EVs. Adding more power when traction is your problem seams make the headline power rating rather academic.

[TheDeuce]

Nomme de Plum said:

SWoll said:

1000hp and 500 miles of range.

Not a chance in this world. Assuming it's going to be based on the Maserati GT Folgore underpinnings (that has a 92.5kWh battery) it would need to do 5.4 miles/kWh which is an utterly ridiculous.

To get anywhere near those claims it'll need a 150kWh battery, weigh 2500-3000KG and cost £150k+

I concur

Whether EV or ICE when available power is used consumption increases accordingly.

The consumption does increase in both car types the more heavily you use the power - but in EV's the increase is marginal compared to an equivalent, say, 500hp ICE car - which will go from 30-35 mpg if you drive it kindly, and down to about 7 if you're driving it hard.

I agree about the range that Alfa claim being nonsense - not a hope in hell unless they fit a very, very large battery which will mean the car will be unbelievably heavy and also surely force them to jack it up a fair bit to fit the batteries. I don't know why manufacturers that are looking to sell high performance, fun cars are so insistent on trying to achieve unrealistic range in the first place - even if they do manage to pack in enough batteries to achieve a 'perfect conditions' 500 mile range, who is it for!? Who does that sort of distance so regularly that they're happy to pay for the huge cost and weight penalty of the extra batteries all the other times when they just want to go out for blast in their 'fun' car? If I had such a car I might be thankful for the great range a handful of times a year, every single other shorter journey would simply be compromised by the weight and wallet would be down £20k for the extra batteries I could do without.

[FarmyardPants]

^ Agree with that. Maybe “range anxiety” anxiety is now a thing.