Jaguar I-PACE thoughts and experiences

Jaguar I-PACE thoughts and experiences

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ShinyPsyduck

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216 posts

113 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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Hi all,

I am just posting to see what everyone's experiences have been with the Jaguar I-PACE?

What are your thoughts on the current model, which ones have you driven?

Are they worth the money??? Anything to avoid and where would I buy from?

Thank you,

Psyduck


DMZ

1,515 posts

165 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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I have one but what cars are you considering and why is the I-Pace on the list from your point of view? Have you had an EV before? Have you driven an I-Pace? Do you have any particular concerns?

keeling54

202 posts

174 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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A mate had one on lease, it's just gone back and he couldn't wait to get rid of it. Spent over half it's life trying to be fixed.
Bloody quick and really comfy when it was running properly though.

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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ShinyPsyduck said:
Hi all,

I am just posting to see what everyone's experiences have been with the Jaguar I-PACE?

What are your thoughts on the current model, which ones have you driven?

Are they worth the money??? Anything to avoid and where would I buy from?

Thank you,

Psyduck
I have one too, a lease that is soon to go back and I intend to replace it with another which I will buy used and when the warranty is up, I'll either sell it or buy an aftermarket warranty.

The earlier models (my current one...) had a really laggy infotainment system which isn't really as annoying as it sounds, but thankfully vastly improved 2021 onwards.

A bit tight in the back for three adults on a long journey and it's worth speccing the 4 zone climate control otherwise there is virtually no airflow in the rear.

Other than these things, it's fantastic as an all rounder and seriously good as a drivers car for an SUV. There are no words I can use to try and convey quite how good it is because you wouldn't believe me, I wouldn't have believed me before I got it!

Realistic range is 240 ish most of the year, 200 in very cold temps. It's known to not be the fastest charging EV but if you're home charging most of the time, it's not really a factor.

You 100% want:

- air suspension so you can have larger rims, the car looks wrong with smaller wheels.

- adaptive dynamics to keep it firm when you're in a hurry and soft when you're not

- HSE spec, best value for money and tech - chiefly a fantastic sound system!

- Pano roof as it gives extra headroom in the back, and is pretty sexy....

Hope that helps!

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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keeling54 said:
A mate had one on lease, it's just gone back and he couldn't wait to get rid of it. Spent over half it's life trying to be fixed.
Bloody quick and really comfy when it was running properly though.
Hence my comment about the warranty rofl

I've been really lucky tbh, the only fault was the powered tailgate that one day lifted gracefully and then crashed back down on my head as I leaned in...

But it's a Jag, pretty much the best luxury car for British roads in many ways, you have to accept however that Jag's are a little... characterful. To be fair a lot of the most enjoyable cars to own are easy to criticise - ever had an Alfa!?

Discombobulate

5,008 posts

191 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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Ours has been trouble free and we love it. Fast, comfortable, nice looking, handles and rides well and beautifully built (thank you Magna Steyr).
I would avoid air suspension and the big wheels. I tried both air and coil springs and went for latter with 20s. Air had an odd rocking motion - side to side - on rural roads around here. Plus I have experienced problems with JLR air suspension before.

It is not the most efficient EV - you will be lucky to get 3 miles per kWH but one of the best all rounders. Real world range 220-230. Never seen less than 200 even in cold weather, but never more than 250.

Go for later cars with Pivi Pro - way better.

PS ignore most posts that start off ‘ a friend had a Tesla/iPace/Kia/Taycan and it was great / st’. Just hearsay.
Focus on first hand experiences - good or bad - from owners / people who have actually driven the car. Except Giles Coren wink

Edited by Discombobulate on Monday 30th January 21:21

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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Discombobulate said:
Ours has been trouble free and we love it. Fast, comfortable, nice looking, handles and rides well and beautifully built (thank you Magna Steyr).
I would avoid air suspension and the big wheels. I tried both air and coil springs and went for latter with 20s. Air had an odd rocking motion - side to side - on rural roads around here. Plus I have experienced problems with JLR air suspension before.

It is not the most efficient EV - you will be lucky to get 3 miles per kWH but one of the best all rounders. Real world range 220-230. Never seen less than 200 even in cold weather, but never more than 250.

Go for later cars with Pivi Pro - way better.

PS ignore most posts that start off ‘ a friend had a Tesla/iPace/Kia/Taycan and it was great / st’. Just hearsay.
Focus on first hand experiences - good or bad - from owners / people who have actually driven the car. Except Giles Coren wink

Edited by Discombobulate on Monday 30th January 21:21
Did the air suspension one you tried also have the adaptive dampers? I have and was advised (by a JLR engineer) that if you have one, you really need the other.

I have both and it's really very good, it doesn't do the typical SUV rolling/rocking, it just sits flat and stays where I've pointed it.

Air suspension is known to go wrong addition for sure... again, this is why I stipulate the need for a warranty. I wouldn't own any luxury car without a warranty, it's just too easy to get a £10k repair bill, unlikely but always possible. More possible than in more mainstream cars for sure. But... It's also quite nice to have a very nice car, life is short after all..

Edited by TheDeuce on Monday 30th January 21:47

ashenfie

792 posts

51 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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The most topical comment is looks very expensive compare to the Tesla and as others have hinted could do with with some updates

blueacid

473 posts

146 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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ashenfie said:
The most topical comment is looks very expensive compare to the Tesla and as others have hinted could do with with some updates
Yep - having not owned or driven either, the general feeling seems to be that the ipace had excellent range and charging speed for 5 years ago. However, if those are important to you, the newer models (e.g. Kia EV6) will outrun it easily on a journey which exceeds the battery range.

If you're only ever doing the very occasional >200 mile journey and are charging at home, this just doesn't matter. If you're often schlepping from Plymouth to Aberdeen and back, the reduced range and slower rapid charging of the ipace might well be something to give more thought to.

Shaoxter

4,170 posts

129 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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keeling54 said:
A mate had one on lease, it's just gone back and he couldn't wait to get rid of it. Spent over half it's life trying to be fixed.
What kind of things were being fixed? Can't be that much on an EV to go wrong surely.

S600BSB

5,892 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Had mine over 2 years and it has been superb. Fast, comfortable and great in all weather. Not missed a beat. I get 250 miles from a charge in summer, 220/230 at the moment. Don't bother with the air suspension.

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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blueacid said:
ashenfie said:
The most topical comment is looks very expensive compare to the Tesla and as others have hinted could do with with some updates
Yep - having not owned or driven either, the general feeling seems to be that the ipace had excellent range and charging speed for 5 years ago. However, if those are important to you, the newer models (e.g. Kia EV6) will outrun it easily on a journey which exceeds the battery range.

If you're only ever doing the very occasional >200 mile journey and are charging at home, this just doesn't matter. If you're often schlepping from Plymouth to Aberdeen and back, the reduced range and slower rapid charging of the ipace might well be something to give more thought to.
This is why I'm going for a second one one mine goes back, because I simply can't find a car that beats it as car to drive despite quite a few technically being better 'on paper' EV's, precisely because I simply don't need more range and on the 3-4 times a year I use a public charger, I don't mind that it takes an extra 10-20 minutes. I wouldn't swap it for a less appealing car just to save an hours worth of charging each year - and tbh I normally only charge where there is something to do/eat and typically leave it charging for longer than I really need to in any case, I'm not sure I would save any real time even if I had a faster charging car.

I would guess that at least 50% of EV drivers can charge at home AND don't routinely do journeys that needs more than a safe 200 mile all year round range. If a person is in the other 50%, look elsewhere.


juice

8,749 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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I've always liked the idea of these and have been looking...Thing is, can you get a warranty if you buy out of 'approved used' on a car that has a full JLSH ?

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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juice said:
I've always liked the idea of these and have been looking...Thing is, can you get a warranty if you buy out of 'approved used' on a car that has a full JLSH ?
Yeah just shop around for aftermarket warranties. I used to always buy car around 3 years old when they had taken the big depreciation hit, but because they were always quite nice (expensive to fix..) cars, I always had an aftermarket warranty factored into the costs. I think I paid £700 a year for a 4 year old Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 with air suspension and a few other things that are known to go wrong often enough to keep owners awake at night.

The battery itself is covered by JLR for 7 years but beware of relying on that, none battery related faults can require a battery pack to be removed in order to fix the fault, which is a high cost. I personally would not consider owning any expensive JLR car without a warranty in place. They're very joyful cars but the reality is, they're a very small manufacturer compared to the big boys and they can only do so much pre-release testing and QA.

If you're buying used from JLR they will normally put a couple of years manufacturer warranty on a used car in any case, and the offered period is negotiable of course.

juice

8,749 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Ah Sorry - I was ambiguous....I meant can you get the Manufacturer warranty applied on a car out of the approved used channel if it has a full JLSH ?

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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juice said:
Ah Sorry - I was ambiguous....I meant can you get the Manufacturer warranty applied on a car out of the approved used channel if it has a full JLSH ?
Not that I'm aware of. But the aftermarket warranties are as good so long as you choose carefully and do a little research on what is most likely to fail and ensure the warranty covers it.

Most such warranties will send the car to a manufacturer service centre for repairs of anything significant, because they do the best job and it will stop repeat claims for the same problem, so from an owners perspective there's no major difference between manufacturer or third party warranty.

dmsims

6,729 posts

272 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Shaoxter said:
What kind of things were being fixed? Can't be that much on an EV to go wrong surely.
Leaking windscreen
12V Battery
Heater

and the usual myriad of JLR ste

Avoid at all costs

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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dmsims said:
Shaoxter said:
What kind of things were being fixed? Can't be that much on an EV to go wrong surely.
Leaking windscreen
12V Battery
Heater

and the usual myriad of JLR ste

Avoid at all costs
My business partner also has an iPace and also had the 12v battery and heater issues!

I wouldn't say avoid, they're great cars - but definitely keep in warranty. I would personally rather have a car that is known to have a few potential issues but I like, as opposed to one that behaves perfectly but isn't that interesting... That's why I'm on PH of course, because I'm a car fan, not simply a driver that needs one and just wants it to do it's job without me having to think about it.

albatross

112 posts

161 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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I’ve got a MY20 SE, and we love it but would I have it as my only car…no.

Range about 220 which does 95% of my journeys, it’s really cheap to run if you have overnight ev charging e.g. Octopus, it’s faster 0-60 than my Elise and it’s a really nice place to be. 20” wheels and springs works fine ,I can even live with the original and slow MMI (by using ApplePlay).

I’ve only had 2 real issues - a dodgy main battery connection which took 3 weeks to fix and a cracked panoramic roof, which was more of a problem because the replacements are £1200 and don’t fit in the hole. We had 2 bits of glass direct from the JLR dealer and the parts manager had to admit they were both faulty and sat 6mm proud, causing wind noise.

That is the rub, the parts supply is poor in terms of quality and price, heater seem a common failure and my boss’s was 5 weeks being fixed - I would not have one without a serious warranty . On top of that, driving to Austria for skiing means it’ll need 4 charges each way because you can’t run too close to zero range ‘just in case’ which adds half a day to the journey.

It will really pain me to give it back at the end of the lease but that’s what I’ll do.

TheDeuce

24,254 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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albatross said:
I’ve got a MY20 SE, and we love it but would I have it as my only car…no.

Range about 220 which does 95% of my journeys, it’s really cheap to run if you have overnight ev charging e.g. Octopus, it’s faster 0-60 than my Elise and it’s a really nice place to be. 20” wheels and springs works fine ,I can even live with the original and slow MMI (by using ApplePlay).

I’ve only had 2 real issues - a dodgy main battery connection which took 3 weeks to fix and a cracked panoramic roof, which was more of a problem because the replacements are £1200 and don’t fit in the hole. We had 2 bits of glass direct from the JLR dealer and the parts manager had to admit they were both faulty and sat 6mm proud, causing wind noise.

That is the rub, the parts supply is poor in terms of quality and price, heater seem a common failure and my boss’s was 5 weeks being fixed - I would not have one without a serious warranty . On top of that, driving to Austria for skiing means it’ll need 4 charges each way because you can’t run too close to zero range ‘just in case’ which adds half a day to the journey.

It will really pain me to give it back at the end of the lease but that’s what I’ll do.
Out of interest, what will you replace it with? The only alternative EV that I really quite like was the i4 M50 but the lead times and prices are a nonsense for lease right now.

There's something about the iPace that I just really like, it's hard to put my finger on but I don't want to lose ours without having another one to replace it.