First 100% electric black cab for 120 years launches in Lond

First 100% electric black cab for 120 years launches in Lond

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Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Dave Hedgehog

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209 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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the hybrid taxi is certainly popular i see them everywhere, i was listening to a radio article on them recently and they where saying 3500 had been registered in london and the drivers where seeing an avg weekly fuel saving of between £125-150 which is a lot


rscott

15,192 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
the hybrid taxi is certainly popular i see them everywhere, i was listening to a radio article on them recently and they where saying 3500 had been registered in london and the drivers where seeing an avg weekly fuel saving of between £125-150 which is a lot
All new London taxis must be hybrid or BEV - https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire... . There's even a grant of up to £7.5k to help drivers switch.

Otispunkmeyer

12,884 posts

160 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I wish Nottingham would be more insistent on having their Hackney’s use these or the levc one.

They’ve spent loads on a tram system that isn’t that useful, they have fully electric buses and bin lorries that run on CNG (which from a recent report I’ve seen are supposedly worse now than modern euro 6 diesel trucks)... but they still have cabbie’s idling at the ranks in their knackered old TX2s and there are even plenty of the older Metrocab type! (The old boxy ones).

Bit off really when many of the private taxi lot roll around in hybrids and the like.

untakenname

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197 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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The real world mileage for the Nissan e-NV200 Combi 2018 (which this is meant to be based on) is approx 130 miles according to Autoexpress, will the typical user be able to get a days worth of use out of it in winter?

£55k is quite an investment, especially with the lack of charging points around and Uber becoming more and more popular.



rscott

15,192 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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untakenname said:
The real world mileage for the Nissan e-NV200 Combi 2018 (which this is meant to be based on) is approx 130 miles according to Autoexpress, will the typical user be able to get a days worth of use out of it in winter?

£55k is quite an investment, especially with the lack of charging points around and Uber becoming more and more popular.
Lack of charging points? TFL are installing 300 rapid charge points by end of next, many of which will be taxi only. There are over 7,000 charging points in Greater London, according to Zap-Map. I wouldn't exactly say that's a tiny number.

untakenname

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197 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I've just looked on Zapmap following their instructions and it's showing 3 points available for TFL chargers in the whole of the M25 which isn't enough imo.

https://www.zap-map.com/charge-points/public-charg...



squirdan

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152 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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my only thought was £55k for a converted Nissan van makes a Tesla M3 Perf for the same money look like an absolute bargain. which it is

aside from the turning circle requirement, which means no normal car can be used, I wonder what % of black cab rides actually have more than 3 passengers on board?

must be deeply irritating as a cabbie to lay out that money on something - and spend half your life sitting in it - knowing that its totally the wrong price

surprised Uber dont jv with Tesla and offer a Tesla option for a few quid more per journey. far preferable to the back seat of a knackered old Prius!


essayer

9,442 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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untakenname said:
I've just looked on Zapmap following their instructions and it's showing 3 points available for TFL chargers in the whole of the M25 which isn't enough imo.

https://www.zap-map.com/charge-points/public-charg...
You need to ‘show taxi-only points’ in app settings .

Obviously not much demand south of the river scratchchin


ESB were also installing a load of taxi points, so add in those plus the public offerings from Polar (now up to 150kW) Shell etc, I’d say there’s a lot more choice now

Edited by essayer on Wednesday 23 October 13:16

rscott

15,192 posts

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Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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untakenname said:
I've just looked on Zapmap following their instructions and it's showing 3 points available for TFL chargers in the whole of the M25 which isn't enough imo.

https://www.zap-map.com/charge-points/public-charg...
Anyone would think you were deliberately trying to misrepresent the number of charging points available. From your own link (my bold) "BP Chargemaster Taxi is part of the EV charging network established by Transport for London (TfL) for black cab drivers in the capital."

untakenname

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197 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I spent a couple of minutes in the website trying the different filters to find the list of tfl ev points and taxi use only filter so ended up googling and that was the only link that came up, the filter doesn't seem to exist when using a PC

I'm not going through the effort of installing an app I'm never going to use just to gain access to a filter.

rscott

15,192 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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untakenname said:
I spent a couple of minutes in the website trying the different filters to find the list of tfl ev points and taxi use only filter so ended up googling and that was the only link that came up, the filter doesn't seem to exist when using a PC

I'm not going through the effort of installing an app I'm never going to use just to gain access to a filter.
Try the settings menu - the taxi only filter is there.