Daimler quitting petrol
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Despite telling everyone to keep buying diesel last week this week they call an end to developing internal combustion engines with a switch to electric..
https://insideevs.com/news/371793/daimler-no-gas-e...
https://insideevs.com/news/371793/daimler-no-gas-e...
PGN said:
Really?
Hard to believe and why would they annnounce it?
Why wouldn't they announce it? Every manufacturer wants to be seen to be at the forefront of the EV revolution.Hard to believe and why would they annnounce it?
They're not giving up on ICE now, just saying the units currently under development will be their last. I'm pretty sure they're not the first mainstream manufacturer to say this?
kambites said:
PGN said:
Really?
Hard to believe and why would they annnounce it?
Why wouldn't they announce it? Every manufacturer wants to be seen to be at the forefront of the EV revolution.Hard to believe and why would they annnounce it?
They're not giving up on ICE now, just saying the units currently under development will be their last. I'm pretty sure they're not the first mainstream manufacturer to say this?
This is the last generation not they are stopping all development. A base engine typically is good for 10-15 years with mild upgrades, maybe longer when combined with improved hybridization.
Not an unexpected announcement and looks quite politically safe but does not mean they will be producing only BEVs any time soon.
Not an unexpected announcement and looks quite politically safe but does not mean they will be producing only BEVs any time soon.
The issue is that passenger cars are transient devices, ie they aren't used at a constant load. We accelerate, then deccelerate all the time. Even on a motorway cruise, thanks to traffic and road conditions, you will still be changing speed pretty much all the time.
And as an ICE powertrain is mono-directional, ie it can generate power, but not absorb it, so however efficient you make that power conversion, it'll still lose out to an electric powertrain in the real world. So you get to the situation where you've spent miilons (probably billions) on developing an absolutely cutting edge ultra high efficiency ICE and it is still using 2 or 3 times as much energy as a basic EV powertrain!
And as an ICE powertrain is mono-directional, ie it can generate power, but not absorb it, so however efficient you make that power conversion, it'll still lose out to an electric powertrain in the real world. So you get to the situation where you've spent miilons (probably billions) on developing an absolutely cutting edge ultra high efficiency ICE and it is still using 2 or 3 times as much energy as a basic EV powertrain!
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