Tesla stolen in less than 30 seconds

Tesla stolen in less than 30 seconds

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anonymous-user

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59 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Thieves use keyless hack to steal a £90,000 Tesla in under 30 seconds

Camelot1971

2,736 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Thanks??

anonymous-user

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59 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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cc3 said:
Thieves use keyless hack to steal a £90,000 Tesla in under 30 seconds

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380763/R...

Swampy1982

3,329 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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insert any brand with key-less entry stolen in less than 30 seconds



Edited by Swampy1982 on Thursday 22 August 08:11

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

59 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Swampy1982 said:
insert any brand with key-less entry stolen in less than 30 seconds



Edited by Swampy1982 on Thursday 22 August 08:11
Thought Tesla had pin verification to stop this ?

the tribester

2,552 posts

91 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Or a Faraday bag?

oop north

1,604 posts

133 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Insert any keyless car... except certain jaguar and Land Rover models (including iPace) which were the only ones out of 200+ cars tested to pass the test run by (iirc) a German car magazine

Dave Hedgehog

14,660 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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cc3 said:
Thought Tesla had pin verification to stop this ?
i thought you could track the car anywhere ?

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Thursday 22 August 08:44

mikeiow

5,908 posts

135 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I am absolutely astonished manufacturers have been allowed to get away with selling vehicles with keyless entry and no way for customers to override it.

Daughters Fiesta is the first in our house....she got a “faraday bag” which worked....at first: then 6 months later I found we could take it to the car closed up properly and voila! Open sesame.
Vendor (amazon) sent replacements....

But seriously, we should be able to flip a switch to say “no, I’m happy to press a button and know the scrotes can’t bounce a signal on.

Dave Hedgehog

14,660 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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mikeiow said:
I am absolutely astonished manufacturers have been allowed to get away with selling vehicles with keyless entry and no way for customers to override it.

Daughters Fiesta is the first in our house....she got a “faraday bag” which worked....at first: then 6 months later I found we could take it to the car closed up properly and voila! Open sesame.
Vendor (amazon) sent replacements....

But seriously, we should be able to flip a switch to say “no, I’m happy to press a button and know the scrotes can’t bounce a signal on.
It does appear Tesla pushed a feature over the air so that you can set a pin to enable the car to be started

but the car was on loan so probably was not enabled

jjwilde

1,904 posts

101 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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'Car stolen after security measure to stop this happening is disabled by reporters for a story.' Hmmm.

DJP31

233 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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cc3 said:
Swampy1982 said:
insert any brand with key-less entry stolen in less than 30 seconds



Edited by Swampy1982 on Thursday 22 August 08:11
Thought Tesla had pin verification to stop this ?
They do but it has to be activated by the owner. This car was a loaner from the service centre and so the user wouldn't have been logged as the owner, thus not able to activite PIN to Drive. With hindsight he could have disabled Passive Entry which disables the remote unlocking of the car and requires a physical press on the key fob to unlock the car.


DJP31

233 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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mikeiow said:
I am absolutely astonished manufacturers have been allowed to get away with selling vehicles with keyless entry and no way for customers to override it.

Daughters Fiesta is the first in our house....she got a “faraday bag” which worked....at first: then 6 months later I found we could take it to the car closed up properly and voila! Open sesame.
Vendor (amazon) sent replacements....

But seriously, we should be able to flip a switch to say “no, I’m happy to press a button and know the scrotes can’t bounce a signal on.
With Tesla you can turn it off, or leave it on but enable PIN to Drive (which he couldn't do as it was a loan car). The Faraday pouches don't seem to last very long, a good old fashioned tin does the job.

DJP31

233 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
cc3 said:
Thought Tesla had pin verification to stop this ?
i thought you could track the car anywhere ?

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Thursday 22 August 08:44
You can.....unless the vehicle is put in a container which blocks the signal and/or..... the SIM unit is ripped out.

It was the UK Owners Group that pushed Tesla to introduce the PIN to Drive option by an OTA update. Cars with Passive Entry enabled were being stolen from the UK, whacked into a container and across the channel before the sun was up. With PIN to Drive enabled owners could leave Passive Entry on knowing that if their car was targeted the thieves couldn't drive it away.





RedSwede

261 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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So we have keyless entry and start because a key is too hard. Now we have to put a code in on the dash touchscreen.

Honestly, it is such a non-issue to press a button to open, turn a key to start. In fact, it barely registers as inconvenience for me on cars without a remote at all. I am just astounded by the pointlessness of it all.

I genuinely think, in total, keys misplaced in a keyless car has caused me more inconvenience than even non-remote central locking car has.

romeogolf

2,060 posts

124 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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You can disable keyless entry on our Renault by locking it with the key button when you get out instead of letting it lock itself as you walk away. We do this at home, but don't bother if we're out somewhere else.

Xaero

4,060 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Wouldn't a button on the remote key to disable 'keyless entry' when at home solve this sort of theft immediately?

I thought Tesla would have some sort of tracking software to find the cars too considering all the tech they are famous for? Have the thieves already figured out how to bypass that?

DJP31

233 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Xaero said:
I thought Tesla would have some sort of tracking software to find the cars too considering all the tech they are famous for? Have the thieves already figured out how to bypass that?
It's bypassed on any car by putting the car in a metal container, which is how they end up in Eastern Europe (usually). Either that or rip out the unit that sends the signal.

Dave Hedgehog

14,660 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Xaero said:
Wouldn't a button on the remote key to disable 'keyless entry' when at home solve this sort of theft immediately?
you could also have a button to unlock the car


infact how cars used to work lol