Daily emissions of cruise ships same as one million cars

Daily emissions of cruise ships same as one million cars

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PixelpeepS3

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8,600 posts

147 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Yet i have not seen any 'initiatives' to try and combat this?

my theory, if you're in a car, there's a 90% chance its for your daily life, maybe going to work, to a meeting, etc - 10% you might actually have enough time in your day to go out 'just for a drive'

but if you're on a cruise ship, its 99% just for fun and pleasure - shouldn't we look at this BEFORE taxing the road user off the streets into the equally (if not more) polluting public transport option?

Linky - https://www.euractiv.com/section/air-pollution/new...

LimaDelta

6,821 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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The Oceana is an old (1990's design) ship. Modern gas-burning engines are much less polluting. But yes, they still chuck out a fair bit of CO2. IMO Take these things seriously and rules are regularly updated to 'encourage' new technology to address the issues.

kambites

68,175 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Same as aviation, it's hard for an individual nation or even a block like the EU to control something which is so fundamentally international.

Torquey

1,908 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Off topic but can anyone explain why buses don't use stop start technology? Or why there are still buses from 1990's polluting city centers?

V10 SPM

574 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Check the daily pollution output of the Maersk cargo ships and now see if swapping to electric cars will be anything but a pinprick on the scale of the overall problem.

Dave Hedgehog

14,660 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Torquey said:
Off topic but can anyone explain why buses don't use stop start technology? Or why there are still buses from 1990's polluting city centers?
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dudleybloke

20,338 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Torquey said:
Off topic but can anyone explain why buses don't use stop start technology? Or why there are still buses from 1990's polluting city centers?
Some new buses in the Midlands are hybrids with stop/start and they also have some EV buses.
Still a lot of older vehicles on the roads though.

ScoobyChris

1,771 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Torquey said:
Off topic but can anyone explain why buses don't use stop start technology? Or why there are still buses from 1990's polluting city centers?
New London buses do (started rolling out 2-3 years ago I think).

Chris

Matt-il77s

330 posts

95 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Torquey said:
Off topic but can anyone explain why buses don't use stop start technology? Or why there are still buses from 1990's polluting city centers?
The Park and Ride busses in York do, the sight seeing busses are electric too

Blue Oval84

5,283 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Interesting topic, to put it in perspective I'm curious how does the pollution per passenger per cruise on a typical cruise ship compare with the pollution per passenger of a plane full (or often, not full!) of people going to and returning from a long haul holiday?

granada203028

1,488 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Blue Oval84 said:
Interesting topic, to put it in perspective I'm curious how does the pollution per passenger per cruise on a typical cruise ship compare with the pollution per passenger of a plane full (or often, not full!) of people going to and returning from a long haul holiday?
I think I found that an A380 is about the same as a Leaf 75 g/km/passenger, A380 full, Leaf just driver, UK generating mix.

Obviously a Leaf 5 up is brilliant...