Discussion
mids said:
I was just reading an article suggesting that the VW ID3's 125kW DC charge rate is too slow and yet here is the new Zoe launching at 50kW.
Read the comments on that article, I agree with their general opinion. If VW launched the ID3 with 50kW, then that would be disappointing for a totally new vehicle. At least the Zoe has DC charging now, it would have been good if they could have gone over 50, however it is supposed to be more affordable so I don't think we can complain too much.It looks good. "Just" another update really but 200+ mile range, bit more power and that newer interior are welcome. CCS is very welcome but with that sort of range I wouldn't see rapid charging as something I'd need to do more than once or twice a year.
Embargo lifted at lunchtime so lots of videos dropped from the press event the other week with lots of detail.
We need a new car next year, this is a front runner depending on pricing - list price is largely irrelevant as the current Zoe (and all Renaults) get discounted heavily anyway.
Embargo lifted at lunchtime so lots of videos dropped from the press event the other week with lots of detail.
We need a new car next year, this is a front runner depending on pricing - list price is largely irrelevant as the current Zoe (and all Renaults) get discounted heavily anyway.
mids said:
I was just reading an article suggesting that the VW ID3's 125kW DC charge rate is too slow and yet here is the new Zoe launching at 50kW.
In reality 50kw for a city car is fine IMO, media like to make out a big story on charge speeds etc.Shame this will be silly price here, the Zoe is what £21k in UK, or $40,000nzd or so, retails starting $68,000 here, or only $6k less than a Tesla model 3.
RobDickinson said:
In reality 50kw for a city car is fine IMO, media like to make out a big story on charge speeds etc.
Shame this will be silly price here, the Zoe is what £21k in UK, or $40,000nzd or so, retails starting $68,000 here, or only $6k less than a Tesla model 3.
£22k battery owned, £17k battery leased for the current R110 s edition.Shame this will be silly price here, the Zoe is what £21k in UK, or $40,000nzd or so, retails starting $68,000 here, or only $6k less than a Tesla model 3.
Zoe2 looks like a good refresh on the current model, due 2020, no firm pricing yet, will use the D/B option as in a Nissan. Will be interested to see if Renault continue leasing batteries, join every other manufacturer in selling the battery with the car only.
The spec's of the new Zoe2
52kWh usable Battery (Not 50kWh as people thought)
Air Active Cooling Thermal Management same as old Zoe
CCS Charging 50kw
AC Charging 22kw
New 135BHP 245nm Motor (0-60 now below 10 secs)
50MPH to 70MPH now 2 secs quicker also
236 WTLP or 250 EV driver real world driving
Adjustable Re-gen B & D modes
Rear Discs brakes
New Easy-Link system (Ability to send your route to the car before you start journey)
9.3" Screen for entertainment
10" TFT screen for in front driver info (Fully changeable)
New Electronic handbrake (Hill Hold)
Emergency braking system (Radar sensor)
Road sign recognition
360 deg sensors 12 in total
Blind Spot recognition
Rear camera
Hands free reverse parking (Auto)
LED Front headlight
LED Rear lights
Tracing rear indicators (Audi style}
LED interior lights
LED front fog lights
LED indicators on mirrors
Heated steering wheel
New switch panels
New heating controls with digital displays inside controls
New navigation system
4G Connectivity and Over The Air updates
New app with the ability to upload your journey to the car before driving
Lane assist (2 step Vibrate alert or full help lane steer)
New soft touch dash
New Gear selector with B & D modes
4 USB ports two from two rear
Wireless inductive charging in front
12v Aux power also in front
Soft touch recycled material
New colour schemes
3D effect front badge
ZOE name under badge
New Front bumper with air intakes
New Bonnet to compliment the lines
Auto dimming rear view mirror
Heating while charging now available
Full size cup holders
Boot is still the same
Split rear seats
Edited by SpikeBmth on Tuesday 18th June 03:15
Looks good. I was one of the original Zoe PCP kumquat fisters when they came up on here for £150/month with the same as deposit. The 80nile range on that was perfectly adequate as a daily commuter so over 200 makes range anxiety for the majority non existent.
The only thing that let it down for me was the decidedly ropey handling, it looked fun and chuckable, but wasn't.
Got to applaud Renault for making these really, they look smart.
The only thing that let it down for me was the decidedly ropey handling, it looked fun and chuckable, but wasn't.
Got to applaud Renault for making these really, they look smart.
Comparable battery and range to a Model 3 SR, almost the same as an SR+ and about half the price. Whats not to like.
It will make the i3 120s 42kwh start to look a little shy in the market.
I suspect a real world, usable 200 miles/300 km will be a mental threshold that buyers will feel happy with, with little need to go beyond it for the smaller cars. I live with that on my MS (and I know I have superchargers but there are still places like Wales that are a charging dead areas which I can just about cope with)
It will make the i3 120s 42kwh start to look a little shy in the market.
I suspect a real world, usable 200 miles/300 km will be a mental threshold that buyers will feel happy with, with little need to go beyond it for the smaller cars. I live with that on my MS (and I know I have superchargers but there are still places like Wales that are a charging dead areas which I can just about cope with)
essayer said:
CCS is an optional extra 
As is that big central touchscreen.However we don't know yet what Renault will offer in the UK. Certain parts of Europe have got much more basic models of Zoe in the past, while the cheapest UK Zoe has always been pretty well specced - I suspect this will continue.
RobDickinson said:
Its a fair bit smaller and slower buy yeah (almost identical price here :/)
I presume you’re not talking batteryI bet it’s larger than you think as a car and either way it’s a car plenty will be happy with - and HALF the price - what are Tesla spending the extra money on? A bit of metalwork to make the car a bit bigger?
Certainly for us the physical size of the is important, even the model 3 is just a bit big.
Even though the SUV market is huge (model Y) there are still many who need a smaller vehicle for ease of finding a space near their work for example, but need a decent range for the occasional longer journey
Even though the SUV market is huge (model Y) there are still many who need a smaller vehicle for ease of finding a space near their work for example, but need a decent range for the occasional longer journey
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