1 July 2019 changes to all chargers?

[Undirection]

Mulling over an EV (probably a newish Leaf) and I've looked at home charging options. Whilst most of it has probably been discussed on here before (so I won't ask any obvious question) I did see that from 1 July 2019 all chargers have to have some type of data connection (part of an App?) etc. Is this right and if so how will this affect charger costs, assuming it will?

[Durzel]

I know next to nothing but I've heard the same date mentioned regarding requiring homes to have a smart meter in situ before the EV charger can be installed.

EDIT: Actually you're right, I'm wrong. As you say the smartness is all in the charger, nothing to do with the attached electricity supply.

[Boxbrownie]

Had to happen sooner or later, now the HMRC can source data from power supply company and add an EV “fuel tax” to our wallets.

[Flooble]

That would explain the scaremongering article about using a normal outlet to charge your EV.

Of course, it's not hard to fit a 16A socket which has no overheating concerns, or even a 32A commando socket and build your own EV chargepoint without any monitoring.

[kambites]

A decent quality 13 amp 3-pin plug would be plenty for me.

[anonymous-user]

Only where the charger is government subsidised

The one I have here isn't and, AIUI, needs no such spying capability

[Scrump]

I had my home charger fitted in 2014 with a govt subsidy. That had some form of data capture using the mobile phone network in it so it has been going on for a while.

[rxe]

I’d be very surprised if the taxation data comes from the chargers in the future. It will come from the cars. All cars can tell you precisely how much power has been put in, and they’re probably already sending that data back to base ....

If you car doesn’t check in remotely, you’ll just get a fine in the post unless you SORN it.

[Boxbrownie]

kambites said:

A decent quality 13 amp 3-pin plug would be plenty for me.

Does for me for the past almost three years, and will continue to do so.....

[Boxbrownie]

rxe said:

I’d be very surprised if the taxation data comes from the chargers in the future. It will come from the cars. All cars can tell you precisely how much power has been put in, and they’re probably already sending that data back to base ....

If you car doesn’t check in remotely, you’ll just get a fine in the post unless you SORN it.

Not so sure, that would depend upon the car getting decent OTA signal, and around here that is never a given.

• regardless of what TopGear magazine said...

Edited by Boxbrownie on Saturday 1st June 11:43

[Frimley111R]

Scrump said:

I had my home charger fitted in 2014 with a govt subsidy. That had some form of data capture using the mobile phone network in it so it has been going on for a while.

IIRC that was ditched shortly afterwards and is the reason a lot of the older design chargers are so big (to fit in the tech). With so many EVs charging at home without any tech 'reporting' them I think its a bit late for the government but go back on this and potentially make them fit some type of monitoring.

Many business charging systems have this though as it was/is essentially a condition of their OLEV grants.

[essayer]

My Chargemaster unit has always had this, I’ve been able to log into their website and see the home charges detailed

[GrahamPM]

I'm pretty sure all new house builds have to have, or make provision for a EV Charge point. I've just had a sign off on a 'new house build', and the inspector did make comment on my Pod-Point....but no mention of the requirement for remote / smart meter.
Graham

[SpikeBmth]

GrahamPM said:

I'm pretty sure all new house builds have to have, or make provision for a EV Charge point. I've just had a sign off on a 'new house build', and the inspector did make comment on my Pod-Point....but no mention of the requirement for remote / smart meter.
Graham

Nope, not a requirement on a new build, the builder I some work did fit one on the last new build he did, but then he owns a Leaf, and has a E-NV200 on order!

[SpikeBmth]

The Government grant of £500 towards your home charge point will onky ne available for "smart" charge points from 1st July.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-fund...