Family EV/Hybrid

[chetman]

HI there, Looking to get rid of my Deisel VW Golf and get an EV or a Hybrid. Would prefer an EV but i dont think i can afford to buy so leasing is the way to go. I'm as far from an expert as you can go although I have been doing some research. I guess my reason for posting is to ask for help on which cars are best and then if the deals I have found are good (I understand this may be better in the leasing forum) Requirements are to look for a family friendly car which I will need to use to commute to work but then also use for weekend and day trips with a young child. I liked the look of the the Kia Niro and a friend of mine also suggested the Toyota C-Hr. Looking for any thoughts/help?

Edited by chetman on Tuesday 30th April 12:08

[familyguy1]

how about a hyundai Kona EV, that looks viable sadly there's a huge waiting list...

[dmsims]

Bit of a difficult market ATM

what are your requirements (seats / hatch etc) and journey profiles (in miles)?

Budget ?

[chetman]

dmsims said:

Bit of a difficult market ATM

what are your requirements (seats / hatch etc) and journey profiles (in miles)?

Budget ?

Hi would like a 5 seater with plenty of boot space as we would use it for family trips etc. There are 3 of us at the moment but will be 4 in the near future. I'll use it for commuting to work 3-4 days a week as well. I reckon 10k a year. If i was to buy i would go max £20k (could spend more but worried about depreciation) so leasing wise i was looking at deals on cars worht 25-30k that were coming in at around £6k for a 2 year lease.

Example: https://leasecar.uk/car-leasing/kia/niro-estate/ni...

Edited by chetman on Tuesday 30th April 12:34

Edited by chetman on Tuesday 30th April 12:57

[gmaz]

Used Mitsubishi PHEV?

You could get a decent spec low mileage 2016 model.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Would a PCP be viable instead of leasing?

Edited by gmaz on Tuesday 30th April 13:47

[chetman]

gmaz said:

Used Mitsubishi PHEV?

You could get a decent spec low mileage 2016 model.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Would a PCP be viable instead of leasing?

Edited by gmaz on Tuesday 30th April 13:47

Thanks, I'll take a look..

[chetman]

Had a little look at the Mitsibushi...might go and see if i can test drive it...at that price i could justify it and in 2-3 years time see how the market has changed. Might be a better bet than leasing it.

[dmsims]

Give it a year and you will have a lot more choice, for now:

Kia Soul EV

Golf GTE

BMW 225XE

[chetman]

dmsims said:

Give it a year and you will have a lot more choice, for now:

Kia Soul EV

Golf GTE

BMW 225XE

Yeah thats why I'm thinking a lease would be good for now...see what the market is like in 12-18 months time...

[Jonny_]

The new Corolla hybrids look good, especially the 2 litre version. Estate version available for maximum practicality.

I use my company Hyundai Ioniq as the main family car, it's been excellent so far. Much bigger boot than a Golf or Focus hatchback.

[ATG]

Nissan Leaf too small for you?

[Merry]

chetman said:

Had a little look at the Mitsibushi...might go and see if i can test drive it...at that price i could justify it and in 2-3 years time see how the market has changed. Might be a better bet than leasing it.

This was our approach, although we got an earlier pre face-lift Outlander for about £15k

[chetman]

I'll check the leaf out. I guess my dilemma and part of the reason I am struggling to make a choice is the to buy vs lease/PCP. Buying seems to not make sense unless the car retains most of its value for 2 years which it may not as the market becomes morew competitive/ Leasing could therefore be the choice. From all the replies I have

Hyundai Kona EV
Mitshibushi PHEV
Kia Soul EV (not a fan of the looks on this one)
Golf GTE
BMW 225XE
Nissan Leaf
Corolla Hybrids

I think ill have to read up on these as well as the Toyota CHR which nobobdy has mentioned so far.

[SpikeBmth]

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/recommended/bes...

Take a look, gives a brief description, and price range!

[littleredrooster]

Gen IV Prius (2016 - ) hasn't been mentioned, but IMO, it's probably the best current Hybrid - new Corolla may be very close.

[chetman]

Ive looked into the Toyota CRH a bit more and it seems so much cheaper than many other options.

https://leasing.com/business/car-leasing/toyota/c-...

Nobody has mentioned. Anyone want to convince me away from this?

p.s I'd stopped getting notifications so didnt notice the few posts above...will go look at those now.

[chetman]

SpikeBmth said:

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/recommended/bes...

Take a look, gives a brief description, and price range!

Stopped looking when i saw price range!

[AstonZagato]

What type of journeys do you typically do?

Can you charge at home? If yes, then choose a PHEV or EV rather than a "self charging" hybrid (what a con that name is!).

I have the Mitsubishi PHEV and a Tesla EV.

We bought the Mitsubishi first. My wife liked it but it only did 20 miles on pure electric. She wanted the whole shebang.

So she bought the Tesla. That is great but it isn't always practical from a range point of view (to be clear, 99.99% of the time, it is totally fine - but 0.01% of the journeys become a bit of a pain). If you are driving a few weird journeys (driving a long way to a charging deadspot when not happening to pass close to a supercharger) then you might not want to do it in the EV (we've had 1 journey in 2 years of ownership).

I'm just about to chop in my diesel Range Rover and will replace it with the PHEV version. 90% of my miles are sub-10 mile journeys and the other 10% are 200+ mile drives to charging deadspots. With that profile, the PHEV makes more sense than an EV (or hire a diesel car for those edge-case journeys).

[RobDickinson]

I've had the outlander phev for near 2 years now, been a decent motor and i get on average 1L/100km, ~50km summer city ev range /30km in winter.

Will be swapping for a model 3 in a few months though.

[chetman]

AstonZagato said:

What type of journeys do you typically do?

Can you charge at home? If yes, then choose a PHEV or EV rather than a "self charging" hybrid (what a con that name is!).

I have the Mitsubishi PHEV and a Tesla EV.

We bought the Mitsubishi first. My wife liked it but it only did 20 miles on pure electric. She wanted the whole shebang.

So she bought the Tesla. That is great but it isn't always practical from a range point of view (to be clear, 99.99% of the time, it is totally fine - but 0.01% of the journeys become a bit of a pain). If you are driving a few weird journeys (driving a long way to a charging deadspot when not happening to pass close to a supercharger) then you might not want to do it in the EV (we've had 1 journey in 2 years of ownership).

I'm just about to chop in my diesel Range Rover and will replace it with the PHEV version. 90% of my miles are sub-10 mile journeys and the other 10% are 200+ mile drives to charging deadspots. With that profile, the PHEV makes more sense than an EV (or hire a diesel car for those edge-case journeys).

Drive to work every day 60 miles per day. Cant charge at home but not averse to installing a charge point.