“False” hybrids
Discussion
Hi,
Just read something here in Belgium, from 2020 “false” hybrids will loose any tax advantages and will be treated in the same group as petrol cars.
I suppose they mean the 15 miles on pure electric cars and the like.
Interesting and logical development. I wonder if in the EU eventually they will cease being counted as hybrids in how manufacturers are measured on overall Co2 ?
Thought it might be of interest to some
Just read something here in Belgium, from 2020 “false” hybrids will loose any tax advantages and will be treated in the same group as petrol cars.
I suppose they mean the 15 miles on pure electric cars and the like.
Interesting and logical development. I wonder if in the EU eventually they will cease being counted as hybrids in how manufacturers are measured on overall Co2 ?
Thought it might be of interest to some
This approach to hybrids makes me worried that policy has been taken over by mad people.
If we’re worried about urban pollution (I’m not, but loads of policymakers are), then getting everyone into hybrids is a really good solution. 15 miles of range would cover pretty much every urban journey, and the simple ability to use electric power while sat in traffic would make a huge difference.
No infrastructure required, no charging point roll out (owners could easily charge from a 13 amp plug), no requirement for people to buy absurdly priced cars that require huge tax incentives to make viable. If these were properly supported by policy, it could be applied to vans, light trucks, everything.
If we’re worried about urban pollution (I’m not, but loads of policymakers are), then getting everyone into hybrids is a really good solution. 15 miles of range would cover pretty much every urban journey, and the simple ability to use electric power while sat in traffic would make a huge difference.
No infrastructure required, no charging point roll out (owners could easily charge from a 13 amp plug), no requirement for people to buy absurdly priced cars that require huge tax incentives to make viable. If these were properly supported by policy, it could be applied to vans, light trucks, everything.
rxe said:
This approach to hybrids makes me worried that policy has been taken over by mad people.
If we’re worried about urban pollution (I’m not, but loads of policymakers are), then getting everyone into hybrids is a really good solution. 15 miles of range would cover pretty much every urban journey, and the simple ability to use electric power while sat in traffic would make a huge difference.
No infrastructure required, no charging point roll out (owners could easily charge from a 13 amp plug), no requirement for people to buy absurdly priced cars that require huge tax incentives to make viable. If these were properly supported by policy, it could be applied to vans, light trucks, everything.
The difficulty is that many people with hybrids don't ever both charging them. So they become compliance cars i.e. good at getting around the regulations and gaining the tax benefits but not of any real benefit to the owners or society in general.If we’re worried about urban pollution (I’m not, but loads of policymakers are), then getting everyone into hybrids is a really good solution. 15 miles of range would cover pretty much every urban journey, and the simple ability to use electric power while sat in traffic would make a huge difference.
No infrastructure required, no charging point roll out (owners could easily charge from a 13 amp plug), no requirement for people to buy absurdly priced cars that require huge tax incentives to make viable. If these were properly supported by policy, it could be applied to vans, light trucks, everything.
Pushing the manufacturers to constantly increase the electric-only range if they want the tax benefits is what most governments are now doing. And it should help in the long term encourage lower cost, full EVs to be produced.
EddieSteadyGo said:
The difficulty is that many people with hybrids don't ever both charging them. So they become compliance cars i.e. good at getting around the regulations and gaining the tax benefits but not of any real benefit to the owners or society in general.
Pushing the manufacturers to constantly increase the electric-only range if they want the tax benefits is what most governments are now doing. And it should help in the long term encourage lower cost, full EVs to be produced.
Indeed, but from an urban pollution perspective, you hardly need to charge them. All the slow stuff is electric, and all the faster driving is petrol which provides motive power and charging. Pushing the manufacturers to constantly increase the electric-only range if they want the tax benefits is what most governments are now doing. And it should help in the long term encourage lower cost, full EVs to be produced.
The average Uber Prius is a really good example. Most of the time it is crawling around in electric mode. When it really wants to move, it uses petrol, efficiently. Other than the fact that there are zillions of them, it is a huge improvement to air quality.
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