Mini Phev longer journey mpg
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I am thinking of getting a Mini Phev as a company car to replace my current Leon personal lease.
I am comfortable with the tax implications, but the main question for me is the cost of fuel of longer journeys, as I can only claim mileage once I do more than 50 miles per day.
From reading various articles, the MPG seems to vary, and my daily mileage will vary from between 80-150 miles and I will only be able to re-charge at home.
Does anyone have an average MPG figure for these sorts of journeys?
I am comfortable with the tax implications, but the main question for me is the cost of fuel of longer journeys, as I can only claim mileage once I do more than 50 miles per day.
From reading various articles, the MPG seems to vary, and my daily mileage will vary from between 80-150 miles and I will only be able to re-charge at home.
Does anyone have an average MPG figure for these sorts of journeys?
It doesn't sound like it would make a great long distance car. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/our-cars/mini-country...
raspy said:
It doesn't sound like it would make a great long distance car. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/our-cars/mini-country...
33 mpg on a long motorway drive! I get better than that in my Cupra.Thanks for the heads up.
I have had a Golf GTE as a company car for nearly three year. Going in mid April.
Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Edited by Jasper3.0 on Sunday 24th February 14:30
FlossyThePig said:
I have a “self charging” hybrid Auris and the battery is used to assist the ICE whenever needed. A PHEV should use the battery in the same way when not in EV mode. The mpg I get is similar to my previous diesel powered car.
Not necessarily. Toyota's hybrid system has been around for many years and the combination of engine, gearbox, and battery regen tech is optimised for fuel economy (rather than performance) and that's why you're getting good MPG in your Auris. The German cars are years behind Toyota in terms of how to make an efficient hybrid. Edited by raspy on Sunday 24th February 15:30
Jasper3.0 said:
I have had a Golf GTE as a company car for nearly three year. Going in mid April.
Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Any ideas how much electricity you've also used? Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Edited by Jasper3.0 on Sunday 24th February 14:30
While tt doesn't take a lot to fill a hybrid, if you chuck in say £1 of electricity every day for a 30 mile round trip and average say 60mpg - while you've used half a gallon of fuel, you've also spent £1 which is about another 1/6 of a gallon cost wise thats 4/6 of a gallon for 30 miles making the MPG equivalent more like 45mpg in money terms (I've made the figures up to show the cost of the electricity.
If you're doing 80-150 miles a day then you're looking at i3 Rex territory to do mostly EV, but personally I wouldn't want to be using that engine daily. I've heard mixed comments in reliability and if anything the REx is a liability on an otherwise good car.
The Hyundai Ioniq PHEV is a good car, and I know the soft Hybrid will push 50 MPG on petrol. You might get 40 miles on electric from it (they're quite efficient of electric).
Unfortunately the new 60kWh cars (Kona, Niro) have very long waiting lists, but they'd easily cover that mileage.
The Hyundai Ioniq PHEV is a good car, and I know the soft Hybrid will push 50 MPG on petrol. You might get 40 miles on electric from it (they're quite efficient of electric).
Unfortunately the new 60kWh cars (Kona, Niro) have very long waiting lists, but they'd easily cover that mileage.
I was getting between 25 and 35MPG on motorway / dual carriageway trips in mine before I handed it back. Battery performance in cold weather wasn't great with lights and heating impacting on the potential range as well - usually 8 miles on a full charge. Without the hybrid element boosting performance, the 1.5l engine wasn't spectacular at lugging the weight around and picking up to overtake when required.
BiK saving was great against my previous Merc C250d but the longer range trips weren't as good from a comfort or financial viewpoint. There's a financial balance to be struck and for me, I'm glad I just had it for three months rather than the full three years.
BiK saving was great against my previous Merc C250d but the longer range trips weren't as good from a comfort or financial viewpoint. There's a financial balance to be struck and for me, I'm glad I just had it for three months rather than the full three years.
Heres Johnny said:
Any ideas how much electricity you've also used?
While tt doesn't take a lot to fill a hybrid, if you chuck in say £1 of electricity every day for a 30 mile round trip and average say 60mpg - while you've used half a gallon of fuel, you've also spent £1 which is about another 1/6 of a gallon cost wise thats 4/6 of a gallon for 30 miles making the MPG equivalent more like 45mpg in money terms (I've made the figures up to show the cost of the electricity.
Nope. I charge at home (typically) from 7 miles range back up to 24 miles and the electric at work is free. So I work on around 80p a charge.While tt doesn't take a lot to fill a hybrid, if you chuck in say £1 of electricity every day for a 30 mile round trip and average say 60mpg - while you've used half a gallon of fuel, you've also spent £1 which is about another 1/6 of a gallon cost wise thats 4/6 of a gallon for 30 miles making the MPG equivalent more like 45mpg in money terms (I've made the figures up to show the cost of the electricity.
Jasper3.0 said:
I have had a Golf GTE as a company car for nearly three year. Going in mid April.
Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Our Outlander PHEV does better than that on a long run (high 30's to 41mpg).Long term average hovering around 68mpg, which sounds great. But...
To / from work I use electric (charge at home and work). When I go on a longer run the MPG plummets around 34-38mpg on a long motorway run at or near the speed limit. My 987 Cayman was not far short of that! With my commute (and not doing long runs that often at the moment) I very rarely put petrolin it.
PHEV’s are great for short commutes, but anything more you would be better of with a conventional diesel or petrol.
For my commute it is perfect. Shame they don’t make them anymore.
I had an ionic self charging hybrid as a hire car for few days on a long run from Aberdeen to Teesside and it averaged low 60s mpg on the way down.i was impressed with it.
Edited by Jasper3.0 on Sunday 24th February 14:30
I've had one as a company car for about 18 months and 20k miles, and it does about 33mpg on a long run at 80ish.
I've seen high 30's with the cruise set to 70, but add traffic into the mix and it drops.
My company mileage rate is pretty low, but I've never been out of pocket due to the mpg. Never make a profit either.
They are pretty economical round town if you charge them every night - our electricity bill went up about £15 per month. Without charging urban mpg is crap - around 25mpg.
Winter range is about 13 miles on a charge, which goes up to 18ish in the summer.
I've seen high 30's with the cruise set to 70, but add traffic into the mix and it drops.
My company mileage rate is pretty low, but I've never been out of pocket due to the mpg. Never make a profit either.
They are pretty economical round town if you charge them every night - our electricity bill went up about £15 per month. Without charging urban mpg is crap - around 25mpg.
Winter range is about 13 miles on a charge, which goes up to 18ish in the summer.
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