EV hidden cost of ownership - servicing costs

EV hidden cost of ownership - servicing costs

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saaby93

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32,038 posts

183 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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If you buy something like a Prius one of the surprises is the servicing costs - maybe £150 or £250 alternate years
The rear brakes never wear out and the front ones only if youre heavy footed.There's no cambelt or other belts to change.
You need tyres smokin

Some full EV service costs look like they're over £300 a time.

What service costs are you seeing for each model?

anonymous-user

59 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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£300 for the first service on an i3 - 2 years in on mine and I got a small discount

mattcov

721 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Leaf is every 12m, £159 then £199 (was £99 then £159). You get the benefits of screenwash and a battery printout for the minor and this + brake fluid + pollen filter on the major. Bearing in mind there is no Oil, oil filter, plugs and the associated guff, its expensive.

I think the Zoe is slightly cheaper but recall some stinger of a cost doing the brake fluid (ie really high!).

I think long term they will struggle to justify the costs.

TUS373

4,738 posts

286 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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I recall that hen I looked at Tesla model S a few years ago, the servicing costs seemed very high for a car that seemed essentially very light on servicing needs. However, disc brakes were included in that. Would be interesting to see what they currently charge.

gangzoom

6,649 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Tesla 'servicing' is as good value as any main dealer. If you enjoy throwing your money down the drain its a great package....

Ours will be going in at 50k for the battery coolant change, but nothing else before that apart from brake fluid change at local garage.


WonkeyDonkey

2,396 posts

108 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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£450 for a key fob battery and a set of wiper blades?!

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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WonkeyDonkey said:
£450 for a key fob battery and a set of wiper blades?!
A key fob battery that probably didnt need changing and wiper blades the same?

Whats with changing brake fluid every 2 years on EVs - doesnt the regen braking work?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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saaby93 said:
Whats with changing brake fluid every 2 years on EVs - doesnt the regen braking work?
Regen braking works very well, but the brake fluid still ages, still sucks in water and looses effectiveness. 2 years tho is a bit keen.

gangzoom

6,649 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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saaby93 said:
A key fob battery that probably didnt need changing and wiper blades the same?

Whats with changing brake fluid every 2 years on EVs - doesnt the regen braking work?
Yeaph, don't forget the 'multi point inspection' and 'tyre rotation' - even though all Xs run staggered setups.

Brake fluid is more about water penetration and is pretty standard on all cars, its a £60-80 job not a £400 one.

Plenty of people are still happy to pay for the 'service pack' after all sub £3k on main dealer service for 4 years on a £70k+ car isn't much. In this scenario the customer is happy, the dealers get some extra cash for better margins, so its a win win for everyone.....sort off.

Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 21st February 00:58

Pooh

3,692 posts

258 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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I paid £63.00 for the 18k mile service for my Zoe at a main dealer so I have no complaints.

Edited by Pooh on Thursday 21st February 06:21

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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£79 for brake fluid change on the F10 and also very somilar value on the E90.



£400 wowzers that’s going to hurt

gangzoom

6,649 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
£400 wowzers that’s going to hurt
You don't need to pay anything to Tesla though. The 8 year unlimited miles warranty is fully honoured regardless of if servicing.

Ours had done 20K and I will take into Tesla for the battery coolant change at 50k. I have no interest in paying £600 for new key battery and wiper blades.


peterperkins

3,200 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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mattcov said:
Leaf is every 12m, £159 then £199 (was £99 then £159). You get the benefits of screenwash and a battery printout for the minor and this + brake fluid + pollen filter on the major. Bearing in mind there is no Oil, oil filter, plugs and the associated guff, its expensive.

I think the Zoe is slightly cheaper but recall some stinger of a cost doing the brake fluid (ie really high!).

I think long term they will struggle to justify the costs.
Is it expensive?

They have to have the premises and all the kit and diagnostic tools.
It takes time to get cars booked in, into the workshop on the ramps and then checking round underneath.
Wheels should come off to check brakes etc properly.
What are we saying one hour for the minor, two hours for the major?
Call it £100 an hour.

Not as bad as the Tesla prices..

caziques

2,632 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Wouldn't even consider taking an EV to a dealer for a "service"

I can change wiper blades, and I will probably use silicon brake fluid at some point in time.

Difficult to understand why standard brake fluid (very hygroscopic) is still used - surely it's not to create work in the future?


saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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gangzoom said:
Brake fluid is more about water penetration and is pretty standard on all cars, its a £60-80 job not a £400 one.
Surely it's one of these things that's been added to the list over time that never needed doing.
Yes it is hydroscopic but how much water really gets into it and does it make that much difference?
All these cars on the road that havent had brake fluid changed for 10 years or more - if it was a real issue wouldnt the MOT check for %water in fluid


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Im not sure why the thread title has hidden in it either.

ntiz

2,395 posts

141 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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gangzoom said:
Welshbeef said:
£400 wowzers that’s going to hurt
You don't need to pay anything to Tesla though. The 8 year unlimited miles warranty is fully honoured regardless of if servicing.

Ours had done 20K and I will take into Tesla for the battery coolant change at 50k. I have no interest in paying £600 for new key battery and wiper blades.
That’s not entirely true though the battery’s is covered for unlimited mileage and 8 years the rest of the car is 50,000 miles and 3 years.

The servicing is optional unless you lease and in the grand scheme of how much you save in other areas really not that bad.

If I drove my other cars daily I could easily blow the cost of a Tesla service in petrol in one month.

The place they really kick you is when you try trade one in. Last I heard Tesla don’t take them back now and other marques don’t seem to keen either.

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

89 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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saaby93 said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
£450 for a key fob battery and a set of wiper blades?!
A key fob battery that probably didnt need changing and wiper blades the same?

Whats with changing brake fluid every 2 years on EVs - doesnt the regen braking work?
Brake fluid is hygroscopic. Additionally, that water that is absorbed will not only reduce the boiling point of the brake fluid, but will contain a some amount of air and that will be compressible, giving a longer pedal travel.

gangzoom

6,649 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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ntiz said:
The place they really kick you is when you try trade one in. Last I heard Tesla don’t take them back now and other marques don’t seem to keen either.
Why wouldn't you just sell private. If I put our X up on autotrader today for £5k less than original invoice price it'll be one of the cheapest on sale, especially with 6 seater/white interior.

Even 2014 Ss are still going for more than £30k which is crazy when you think 50% deprecation at 3 years is normally considered good.

I actually wouldn't mind paying £2.5k for a 4 year 'service' pack on ours, but I simply cannot get my head around paying some one £600 to have a look at the car, replace some key fob batteries. Bare in mind the car has enough sensors to tell me when the washer fluid is low, and when the battery in the key fob needs changing anyways.

But to be fair to Tesla, main dealer servicing for every marque has always been more about ££££ and appearances rather than mechanical maintenance. Plenty of people are happy to pay so why wouldn't Tesla want to cash in?

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

86 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Local indy services my Leaf now.

1 hour labour, cabin filter, screen wash. Road test and stamp the book.

£60.00