Tuning and Electric Vehicles...?

Tuning and Electric Vehicles...?

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Turfy

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1,070 posts

186 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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I read I think on here, that in the year 2018 it was that absolute peak for combustion engined vehicle sales worldwide. From here on in, combustion engined vehicle sales will decline as EV sales increases.

Can EV vehicles be tuned (for power) or is it a case of early days, no one knows and wait and see?

Is a battery of a set dimension a specific KW or can if be tweaked observing the set dimensions? or is it a software thingy?




anonymous-user

59 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Big fire risk to increase electrical power beyond design specifications.

Buzz84

1,163 posts

154 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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there will be the ability to do this in time.

its the same as a petrol or diesel car, they are tuned for optimum efficiency on various fuels and climates. there are many methods of getting power out, with remaps, part replacements (turbos. intakes, exhausts etc etc) these all push the engine towards its limits

electric cars will be the same, set so the batteries and motor don't overheat when ran in Dubai, meaning there will be a margin to up this is cooler climates. power supplied to the motor could potentially be remapped via the inverter, (not much different to upping the boost on ICE turbos)
In time there will be a market for uprated motor cables, people swapping out motors, custom battery mods and allsorts or stuff - once there is money to be made when EV cars are more affordable and widespread!

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Turfy said:
...From here on in, combustion engined vehicle sales will decline as EV sales increases.....
Only if people allow it of course.
If they wish to keep internal combustion engines then en mass we need to keep buying them and not be drawn in to the world of electric milk floats.
On top of that we need to vote in parties that do not view the world as dictated by Al Gore.

V8RX7

27,382 posts

268 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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A friend of mine is in this field having done work for Tesla etc

Yes there is scope to significantly change performance characteristics - whether there is any need to is another matter

Having experienced ludicrous mode I'd suggest not

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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rockin said:
Big fire risk to increase electrical power beyond design specifications.
Nonsense.

Otispunkmeyer

12,881 posts

160 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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This year was a peak.... but what about next year?

Signs are of a slow down so I guess you could say it was peak, but I would say you need a good 2-3 years to make the trend clearly downward to claim x year was the peak.

Its like people who claim peak oil. We've gone past it how many times?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Turfy said:
I read I think on here, that in the year 2018 it was that absolute peak for combustion engined vehicle sales worldwide. From here on in, combustion engined vehicle sales will decline as EV sales increases.

Can EV vehicles be tuned (for power) or is it a case of early days, no one knows and wait and see?

Is a battery of a set dimension a specific KW or can if be tweaked observing the set dimensions? or is it a software thingy?
I've posted on this before.

Yes there certainly is potential.

Firstly you just have the electronic programming side of things. This will control the current and throttle curve as well as the punch of the motor. Tweaking these settings will allow the motor to respond differently, but maybe at the cost of excess heat and high battery consumption. As well as increased risk breaking other mechanical parts.

I suspect some motors Peak output is also restricted by a setting in the electronics. So altering this may give more overall power as well, as well as changing the actually throttle curve.

It is also possible to swap in different motors (in theory) to give different performance. Or increase the battery voltage.

feef

5,206 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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When a Tesla Model S P85 was taken around the 'Ring, it wasn't range or power that let it down, it was battery cooling. I suspect that's where some of the tuning will lie, is making them more accepting of the 'abuse' that performance driving will give them

anonymous-user

59 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
rockin said:
Big fire risk to increase electrical power beyond design specifications.
Nonsense.
In a single word, 300 sweeps away all the laws of physics.

What a fool.

anonymous-user

59 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
.... maybe at the cost of excess heat ....
Ah yes, there we are!


DJP31

233 posts

109 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Just over a year ago my then 1 year old Tesla was “uncorked” as it’s called in the States. They plugged the car in to double check on a particular battery/fuse component and having passed that test tweaked the software. Took about an hour.

My 0-60 went from 5.2 secs to 4.2 and the acceleration is noticeably better in the lower/mid ranges. Not that it was slow before!

They did this free of charge to all eligible cars to bring them in line with the specs on cars being ordered thereafter.


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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rockin said:
In a single word, 300 sweeps away all the laws of physics.

What a fool.
Is the same true with tuning IC engines then? Yet people seem to do that, indeed there is a huge multi million £/$ industry doing just such.

Design specs for a car may well also not be the limitation of the components they used to build it. So there may well be good chance to "tweak" it with little or no risk at all in terms of "fire", e.g. motor speed might be restricted to 70% of what the motor can achieve.

fjgh012

1 posts

69 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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really fantastic thread read here.

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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fjgh012 said:
really fantastic thread read here.
Where?

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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DJP31 said:
Just over a year ago my then 1 year old Tesla was “uncorked” as it’s called in the States. They plugged the car in to double check on a particular battery/fuse component and having passed that test tweaked the software. Took about an hour.

My 0-60 went from 5.2 secs to 4.2 and the acceleration is noticeably better in the lower/mid ranges. Not that it was slow before!

They did this free of charge to all eligible cars to bring them in line with the specs on cars being ordered thereafter.
How did that affect the range, using the extra performance?