Jaguar iPace Event at Oulton Park
Discussion
Went to the above event yesterday and must say the new iPace is so impressive.
It looks lower and wider in the flesh and its a really good drive. I've never driven a fully electric car before and was shocked/amused at the instant acceleration - its addictive!
We went on a half hour public road test and the engine noise is a Buck Rogers sounding whoosh noise and its lovely - it really feels like the future!
You can turn the whoosh nice totally down so its like a limo too.
The Jag has been engineered to be fun too as when hooning around the track its really nimble/chuckable and provides great feedback. Considering it weighs over 2 tonnes its like its defying the laws of physics - apparently due to the torque vectoring etc - whatever that means!
I would love one, they look awesome and they are very nicely put together in side and have loads of space and a big boot.
If you are lucky enough to be getting one of these I'm well gel!
It looks lower and wider in the flesh and its a really good drive. I've never driven a fully electric car before and was shocked/amused at the instant acceleration - its addictive!
We went on a half hour public road test and the engine noise is a Buck Rogers sounding whoosh noise and its lovely - it really feels like the future!
You can turn the whoosh nice totally down so its like a limo too.
The Jag has been engineered to be fun too as when hooning around the track its really nimble/chuckable and provides great feedback. Considering it weighs over 2 tonnes its like its defying the laws of physics - apparently due to the torque vectoring etc - whatever that means!
I would love one, they look awesome and they are very nicely put together in side and have loads of space and a big boot.
If you are lucky enough to be getting one of these I'm well gel!
Often when people on here say EVs are st for some reason there is an expectation that they are st to drive too. You just have to get (most) people in to one to show they are awesome fun. The instant response just feels like the future.
With even the low end EVs now having 200-300 mile ranges and much faster charging the next few years is going to be brilliant, I can't wait.
With even the low end EVs now having 200-300 mile ranges and much faster charging the next few years is going to be brilliant, I can't wait.
jjwilde said:
Often when people on here say EVs are st for some reason there is an expectation that they are st to drive too. You just have to get (most) people in to one to show they are awesome fun. The instant response just feels like the future.
With even the low end EVs now having 200-300 mile ranges and much faster charging the next few years is going to be brilliant, I can't wait.
Do people often say they’re st? I know I and others question the prices and the range, or lack of, given current charging arrangements is an issue but once those issues are addressed I’d happily have a well built and stylish EV. With even the low end EVs now having 200-300 mile ranges and much faster charging the next few years is going to be brilliant, I can't wait.
Which ‘low end’ EVs have a range anywhere near a genuine 300 miles btw?
gangzoom said:
Hyundai Kona EV and Kia Nero EV. Both have more range than our 75D Tesla Model X and iPace at half the price.
Interestingly with these the problem is not range or charging. It isn’t the ability of the manufacturers to build them. Long lead times. Also as there is demand for them Hyundai are not supporting retail much. So they are not a competitive purchase on finance / lease.Jasper3.0 said:
gangzoom said:
Hyundai Kona EV and Kia Nero EV. Both have more range than our 75D Tesla Model X and iPace at half the price.
Interestingly with these the problem is not range or charging. It isn’t the ability of the manufacturers to build them. Long lead times. Also as there is demand for them Hyundai are not supporting retail much. So they are not a competitive purchase on finance / lease.Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 28th October 15:47
REALIST123 said:
At £30k up for the Kona and the Kia likely to be way over that when it’s launched here, they’re hardly low end either though maybe they seem that way to those who’ve forked out ££££££ for a Tesla.
They (or the Kona at least) have already been launched, Kia can't keep up with the demand. I think it's £28k + options.Edited by REALIST123 on Sunday 28th October 15:47
Loads of reviews and owners on youtube & speakEV.
REALIST123 said:
At £30k up for the Kona and the Kia likely to be way over that when it’s launched here, they’re hardly low end either though maybe they seem that way to those who’ve forked out ££££££ for a Tesla.
At £30k for 250 miles+ of real world range the Kona undercuts the Tesla £70k, iPace £60k, E-Tron £70k, Merc EQC £60k. Also unlike the last two the Kona EV is available now.The only thing against the Kona is the badge.
JohnG123 said:
Just built a Kona on the web site.
All going well, click to order, as that is how you have to order one. Still going well ........................................... then 42 weeks delivery.
No thanks 42 weeks is a long time technology wise.....................
They hugely underestimated the demand. It's an excellent car.All going well, click to order, as that is how you have to order one. Still going well ........................................... then 42 weeks delivery.
No thanks 42 weeks is a long time technology wise.....................
gangzoom said:
REALIST123 said:
At £30k up for the Kona and the Kia likely to be way over that when it’s launched here, they’re hardly low end either though maybe they seem that way to those who’ve forked out ££££££ for a Tesla.
At £30k for 250 miles+ of real world range the Kona undercuts the Tesla £70k, iPace £60k, E-Tron £70k, Merc EQC £60k. Also unlike the last two the Kona EV is available now.The only thing against the Kona is the badge.
jjwilde said:
JohnG123 said:
Just built a Kona on the web site.
All going well, click to order, as that is how you have to order one. Still going well ........................................... then 42 weeks delivery.
No thanks 42 weeks is a long time technology wise.....................
They hugely underestimated the demand. It's an excellent car.All going well, click to order, as that is how you have to order one. Still going well ........................................... then 42 weeks delivery.
No thanks 42 weeks is a long time technology wise.....................
Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
Krikkit said:
But not in the same league of performance as a Tesla, iPace, or the future expensive jobbies - even the £35k one is 7.6s to 100kph.
Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
It would win most traffic light grand prix though due to the torque take off.Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
Krikkit said:
Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
There aren’t many people out in the real world who give a stuff, frankly. And the instant torque compensates for some of the shortfall in paper performance. As demonstrated quite often by my i3. The Kona May have difficulties getting the power down in the wet though...Krikkit said:
Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
No where near as bad feeling as been overtaken by an Kona EV on the M-way doing normal speeds whilst following a lorry at 55mph in an iPace whilst praying the Ecotricty CCS charger is working up the road......gangzoom said:
Krikkit said:
Getting burnt off by a smallish diesel auto will be a hard pill to swallow at the same money.
No where near as bad feeling as been overtaken by an Kona EV on the M-way doing normal speeds whilst following a lorry at 55mph in an iPace whilst praying the Ecotricty CCS charger is working up the road......REALIST123 said:
I doubt that either of those will spend much time on motorways.
You seem to know alot about EVs, can you remind me your real life experience of owing one?I only did 14k in a Leaf partly because that was the PCP limit, even the Leaf was fine on M-ways but having to rely on the poor reliability of the Ecotricty rapid chargers was its main downfall.
In the last 18months I've now done 25k in an EV with the same range as an iPace but with access to reliable rapid charging on major M way routes. Our EV has done far more M way miles intotal than our combustion car. All our tirps down to London/Brimingham is now done in the car rather than train, why would we pay £100+ on a return train ticket for the family when driving is almost free with fuel costs of 2-3p per mile.
Yes there are still some trips I would rather take our combustion car due to range issues, but 99% of our car usage with an EV+decent rapid charging enroute works really well.
The reason the Kona EV is so good is because even a 70mph+ its range is still excellent which means your less reliant/need rapid charging.
Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 31st October 15:32
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