Why so expensive

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Edible Roadkill

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1,693 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Fella over the roads just got a Nissan note with a fast charger so following a chat with him and reviewing the benefits I've started to look around and read up on full fat EV's.

I don't think a half way diet hybrid is really worth considering.

However upon looking at the e-tron which looks like a car I could live with I'm completely staggered at how much they will cost....£71000 !! Ipace not much less. Even with the gov't grant it's still extremely expensive.

I need a bigish car due to being a family of 5, using 3x booster seats lots of luggage on occasion etc so the likes of the note is too small.

Really how many of these etron do audi imagine they can sell when priced around double that of a petrol or desel equivalent car!?

I'm sure with the average wage being around 25k-ish manufacturers can't imagine many people buying a 70k+ car!?

I'm not really wanting to hang myself wit a pcp deal ever again so the alternative would be a decent priced lease deal do we think this at all realistic possibility?


Heres Johnny

7,390 posts

129 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Edible Roadkill said:
Fella over the roads just got a Nissan note with a fast charger so following a chat with him and reviewing the benefits I've started to look around and read up on full fat EV's.

I don't think a half way diet hybrid is really worth considering.

However upon looking at the e-tron which looks like a car I could live with I'm completely staggered at how much they will cost....£71000 !! Ipace not much less. Even with the gov't grant it's still extremely expensive.

I need a bigish car due to being a family of 5, using 3x booster seats lots of luggage on occasion etc so the likes of the note is too small.

Really how many of these etron do audi imagine they can sell when priced around double that of a petrol or desel equivalent car!?

I'm sure with the average wage being around 25k-ish manufacturers can't imagine many people buying a 70k+ car!?

I'm not really wanting to hang myself wit a pcp deal ever again so the alternative would be a decent priced lease deal do we think this at all realistic possibility?
Did you see the ipace thread about monthly PCP starting around £400 a month? It was relatively low mileage, maybe only 600 miles a month. Petrol or Diesel would cost maybe £120 to do that, electricity would be about £20 - rough figures - net monthly cost after fuel savings is therefore £300.

Sure they're expensive at list price, batteries aren't cheap, but even so they'll still probably sell all they make. And £300 a month to run a car that size and class is a bargain.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

72 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Heres Johnny said:
Did you see the ipace thread about monthly PCP starting around £400 a month? It was relatively low mileage, maybe only 600 miles a month. Petrol or Diesel would cost maybe £120 to do that, electricity would be about £20 - rough figures - net monthly cost after fuel savings is therefore £300.

Sure they're expensive at list price, batteries aren't cheap, but even so they'll still probably sell all they make. And £300 a month to run a car that size and class is a bargain.
I suspect they don't really want to sell many just yet, high purchase price and lower rental means they can more closely monitor performance.

anonymous-user

59 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Teddy Lop said:
Heres Johnny said:
Did you see the ipace thread about monthly PCP starting around £400 a month? It was relatively low mileage, maybe only 600 miles a month. Petrol or Diesel would cost maybe £120 to do that, electricity would be about £20 - rough figures - net monthly cost after fuel savings is therefore £300.

Sure they're expensive at list price, batteries aren't cheap, but even so they'll still probably sell all they make. And £300 a month to run a car that size and class is a bargain.
I suspect they don't really want to sell many just yet, high purchase price and lower rental means they can more closely monitor performance.
It’s odd that they’re knocking out what they seem to think are £65-£85k cars at £400 or so a month for 400 miles per month, unless they think they’ve finally got something that won’t depreciate like everything else (!).

I doubt that sort of lease will last long.

The OPs right; decent EVs are too expensive right now. They’ll never become truly common until that changes.

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

89 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Teddy Lop said:
Heres Johnny said:
Did you see the ipace thread about monthly PCP starting around £400 a month? It was relatively low mileage, maybe only 600 miles a month. Petrol or Diesel would cost maybe £120 to do that, electricity would be about £20 - rough figures - net monthly cost after fuel savings is therefore £300.

Sure they're expensive at list price, batteries aren't cheap, but even so they'll still probably sell all they make. And £300 a month to run a car that size and class is a bargain.
I suspect they don't really want to sell many just yet, high purchase price and lower rental means they can more closely monitor performance.
They are just beta testing!

Somebody

1,288 posts

88 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Manufacturers have invested heavily into petrol and diesel technology in their current line ups. What do you think will happen if they price an EV at a similar price to their bread and butter models? The value of their ICE factories and supply chain would be wiped out at a stroke. They’ve got their own interests at heart.

Dedders

148 posts

101 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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REALIST123 said:
It’s odd that they’re knocking out what they seem to think are £65-£85k cars at £400 or so a month for 400 miles per month, unless they think they’ve finally got something that won’t depreciate like everything else (!).

I doubt that sort of lease will last long.

The OPs right; decent EVs are too expensive right now. They’ll never become truly common until that changes.
From JLR point of view it gets them out on the road and into the public’s mind whilst also providing a good level of stock with low mileage in 18 months time. I doubt they really care iif they are losing a few pounds at the moment compared to the potential longer term benefits