0 - 60 performance - hybrid cars
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My hybrid had selectable modes but no matter what mode was selected if the throttle pedal was pushed all the way to the floor the car would use both petrol and electric power together.
It was a sort of kick down function but with this it would be meaningless to try and get 0-60 figures for just one of the power sources.
It was a sort of kick down function but with this it would be meaningless to try and get 0-60 figures for just one of the power sources.
0 - 60 is an out dated method of comparing performance it is neither what your feel or perceive, but was easy to measure with a stop watch and speedo.
Shove in the back or g force is what you feel and this can be measured by using inertial equipment such apps on phones.
Distance covered is what you observe particularly in competitive situations like drag racing against a opponent, the one who has covered the most distance is out in front!
Cars with good initial acceleration fair best such as old school automatics with a torque converter. My Leaf for example has constant acceleration up to about 30 mph, conditioned by my experience of older automatic cars the initial getaway feels sluggish, but sudden application of power at 30mph feels really good.
Shove in the back or g force is what you feel and this can be measured by using inertial equipment such apps on phones.
Distance covered is what you observe particularly in competitive situations like drag racing against a opponent, the one who has covered the most distance is out in front!
Cars with good initial acceleration fair best such as old school automatics with a torque converter. My Leaf for example has constant acceleration up to about 30 mph, conditioned by my experience of older automatic cars the initial getaway feels sluggish, but sudden application of power at 30mph feels really good.
I've just put a deposit on a Touareg Hybrid. You can select "e-mode' and it will run (for a few miles) on battery only, certainly tested by us up to c. 40mph, but Im pretty sure that if you booted it as hard as you'd need to if you were hunting 0-60 times, the petrol engine would kick in.
Mine has the V6 TFSi engine from the S4 (and probably other warm VAG models) and does 0-60 in, depending on which review you read, around 6.2s.
Mine has the V6 TFSi engine from the S4 (and probably other warm VAG models) and does 0-60 in, depending on which review you read, around 6.2s.
Same deal with the MB C350e. You can’t force it to stay in electric mode if you want to press on, nor can you stop it using electric power if the ICE is running. You can give it suggestions, as it were, but the whole idea is that it’s easy to use without you having to fuss with it.
The closest you can get to doing an electric power only speed run would be to put it in E mode and make sure you don’t press the pedal beyond the haptic “end stop” it creates when in that mode.
It’ll do motorway speeds on battery only, and as it has the auto box, is reasonably brisk on battery power alone, considering the weight. Remarkable what 80 bhp and a chunk of torque can deliver really.
What I have noticed though, when doing a foot to the floor run, it feels pretty brisk up to about 70, then it starts to hit a wall. I’m pretty certain that this is where the electric motor starts to lose torque so you have to rely on the ICE.
I’d love to see torque curves for the combined hybrid powertrain but they just don’t seem to be available. The ICE is just a flat line from 1200 rpm until it almost hits the red line - the wonders of modern turbo motors I suppose.
The quoted power figures aren’t the simple sum of ICE + electric, it’s a bit less, which reinforces the thought that the electric motor suffers from torque drop off before the ICE hits peak power.
The closest you can get to doing an electric power only speed run would be to put it in E mode and make sure you don’t press the pedal beyond the haptic “end stop” it creates when in that mode.
It’ll do motorway speeds on battery only, and as it has the auto box, is reasonably brisk on battery power alone, considering the weight. Remarkable what 80 bhp and a chunk of torque can deliver really.
What I have noticed though, when doing a foot to the floor run, it feels pretty brisk up to about 70, then it starts to hit a wall. I’m pretty certain that this is where the electric motor starts to lose torque so you have to rely on the ICE.
I’d love to see torque curves for the combined hybrid powertrain but they just don’t seem to be available. The ICE is just a flat line from 1200 rpm until it almost hits the red line - the wonders of modern turbo motors I suppose.
The quoted power figures aren’t the simple sum of ICE + electric, it’s a bit less, which reinforces the thought that the electric motor suffers from torque drop off before the ICE hits peak power.
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