Tesla - Bottom of the Class Reliability
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Ouch! Top cash but bottom reliability well below the worst other makes. So much for the less moving parts = reliable for EVs.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
If you watch "rich rebuilds" on YouTube you might get the impression most Tesla's are like triggers broom. Which is ok under warranty but is cripplingly expensive out .
Tesla won't sell parts for DIY purposes so you're stuck trying to source used stuff.
I was sat behind a new model X yesterday, look at that boot close panel gap!
Also,pulling along side you could see the rear doors were slightly out of alignment so the door handles, that meet in the middle were slightly offset.
That's pretty s
t really. Still a great car mind.
Tesla won't sell parts for DIY purposes so you're stuck trying to source used stuff.
I was sat behind a new model X yesterday, look at that boot close panel gap!
Also,pulling along side you could see the rear doors were slightly out of alignment so the door handles, that meet in the middle were slightly offset.
That's pretty s
t really. Still a great car mind.irc said:
Ouch! Top cash but bottom reliability well below the worst other makes. So much for the less moving parts = reliable for EVs.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
I see Lexus did quite well, yet after having owned a Tesla for 18 months and covered 23k I cannot wait to get rid of the wifes Lexus for another Tesla http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
.Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 6th September 07:34
A lot of it is also likely to do with the number and complexity of systems, there is an awful lot more to go wrong in a Range Rover than a Yaris given the more complex drivetrain, comfort and infotainment systems.
EV’s should have an advantage - look at the Leaf! - with fewer moving parts, Tesla must be doing something and bit wrong here!
EV’s should have an advantage - look at the Leaf! - with fewer moving parts, Tesla must be doing something and bit wrong here!
WestyCarl said:
At least Telsa have some sort of reason / excuse. What's JLR's excuse 
I wonder if there is some correlation between cost of vehicle and owner expectations. it does seem the cheapest are top of the list and the most expensive at the bottom.
JLR are lazy at it? What is Telsas excuse? Hardly any parts to go wrong, manufacturing supposedly better than worlds-best practice, all sorts of geniuses behind it etc etc......I wonder if there is some correlation between cost of vehicle and owner expectations. it does seem the cheapest are top of the list and the most expensive at the bottom.
rodericb said:
JLR are lazy at it? What is Telsas excuse? Hardly any parts to go wrong, manufacturing supposedly better than worlds-best practice, all sorts of geniuses behind it etc etc......
OK maybe excuse wasn't the correct word, reasons?.Tesla are a relatively new maker, have new factory, and have never made in large volumes before. Yes they should have planned better but this is probably the reason for the p*** poor result.
This sort of stuff puts me off, and I’m as techie as they go:
https://twitter.com/ryannegri/status/1037411806841...
Still, he’s pleased Tesla didn’t charge him for the recovery efforts, even though they broke his car in the first place!
https://twitter.com/ryannegri/status/1037411806841...
Still, he’s pleased Tesla didn’t charge him for the recovery efforts, even though they broke his car in the first place!
rodericb said:
WestyCarl said:
At least Telsa have some sort of reason / excuse. What's JLR's excuse
I wonder if there is some correlation between cost of vehicle and owner expectations. it does seem the cheapest are top of the list and the most expensive at the bottom.
JLR are lazy at it? What is Telsas excuse? Hardly any parts to go wrong, manufacturing supposedly better than worlds-best practice, all sorts of geniuses behind it etc etc......I wonder if there is some correlation between cost of vehicle and owner expectations. it does seem the cheapest are top of the list and the most expensive at the bottom.
But seriously, JLR do score much more highly than Tesla and most of their products are significantly less expensive.
gangzoom said:
irc said:
Ouch! Top cash but bottom reliability well below the worst other makes. So much for the less moving parts = reliable for EVs.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
I see Lexus did quite well, yet after having owned a Tesla for 18 months and covered 23k I cannot wait to get rid of the wifes Lexus for another Tesla http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-61...
.Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 6th September 07:34
REALIST123 said:
Telsa? Who is this Telsa of whom you speak?
But seriously, JLR do score much more highly than Tesla and most of their products are significantly less expensive.
Tesla But seriously, JLR do score much more highly than Tesla and most of their products are significantly less expensive.
Bottom 5 are Tesla S, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, Discovery Sport and Ford Edge Diesel.
The S and Range Rover(s) have to be a similar price level.
Reliability "surveys" are always to be taken with a pinch of salt IMO. They attract people who are vociferously positive about their car (ever met a Skoda owner who won't stop banging on about how they're just as good as a VW only cheaper?), or people who've had some issue and have an axe to grind.
There's also a world of difference for me between a reliability issue that leaves you stranded by the side of the road, and a reliability issue that is some minor thing not working that needs a dealer visit (at my convenience) to fix.
There's also a world of difference for me between a reliability issue that leaves you stranded by the side of the road, and a reliability issue that is some minor thing not working that needs a dealer visit (at my convenience) to fix.
essayer said:
This sort of stuff puts me off, and I’m as techie as they go:
https://twitter.com/ryannegri/status/1037411806841...
Still, he’s pleased Tesla didn’t charge him for the recovery efforts, even though they broke his car in the first place!
Until recently I've paid no attention to Tesla.https://twitter.com/ryannegri/status/1037411806841...
Still, he’s pleased Tesla didn’t charge him for the recovery efforts, even though they broke his car in the first place!
Can someone confirm - Tesla send out automatic updates over the airwaves, at any time? Which has a huge potential to brick your car in any location?
sjg said:
Reliability "surveys" are always to be taken with a pinch of salt IMO. They attract people who are vociferously positive about their car (ever met a Skoda owner who won't stop banging on about how they're just as good as a VW only cheaper?), or people who've had some issue and have an axe to grind.
There's also a world of difference for me between a reliability issue that leaves you stranded by the side of the road, and a reliability issue that is some minor thing not working that needs a dealer visit (at my convenience) to fix.
Tesla does seem to have the issue or odd situation that owners seem to come in 2 categories. Best thing ever invented everything else is inferior or hugely disappointed potentially quite pissed off. Seem to have very few in-between. There's also a world of difference for me between a reliability issue that leaves you stranded by the side of the road, and a reliability issue that is some minor thing not working that needs a dealer visit (at my convenience) to fix.
So I guess if you have 28 people and half list off every little problem and slag the car off might not look so great on a survey.
Saying that both mine and my sons have had there problems more so than any of my other brand new cars. Except my Bentley that was f
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