Outlander PHEV
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Bit new to all this sadly having been a planet burner in diesels for a number of years.
Have just started to look at the Outlander PHEV and wanted to know 'real world' consumption figures?
Also do they all come in 4X4 form or was/is that a special order?
Usage will be totally varied from local 10 mile runs to 120 round trip A12 runs
Tks in advance
Have just started to look at the Outlander PHEV and wanted to know 'real world' consumption figures?
Also do they all come in 4X4 form or was/is that a special order?
Usage will be totally varied from local 10 mile runs to 120 round trip A12 runs
Tks in advance
Have a read of the Outlander thread then see what questions you have that remain unanswered
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Quite simply it's ALL down to how you use the car...... If you use it for short journey's and chuck into Eco mode and don't boot it, you can do upto 20 miles purely on electric. The engine won't even start. If you start to use the ICE then you'll notice it's not very economical on long journeys. A smaller turbo charged petrol engined car will be way better, as will an equivalent sized diesel.
So...you get the benefits over how you use it!
They are also all 4x4. There's basically 2 motors, one at each end. Brilliant in the snow as the power is so linear with the CVT gearbox. No wheelspin just grip! Oh and it can embarass a few few other car's at the traffic lights for the same reason.
So, if yo do the right journeys your fuel consumption will be 0mpg. If you use for the wrong journeys the consumption will be low 30's mpg.
So...you get the benefits over how you use it!
They are also all 4x4. There's basically 2 motors, one at each end. Brilliant in the snow as the power is so linear with the CVT gearbox. No wheelspin just grip! Oh and it can embarass a few few other car's at the traffic lights for the same reason.
So, if yo do the right journeys your fuel consumption will be 0mpg. If you use for the wrong journeys the consumption will be low 30's mpg.
super7 said:
Quite simply it's ALL down to how you use the car...... If you use it for short journey's and chuck into Eco mode and don't boot it, you can do upto 20 miles purely on electric. The engine won't even start. If you start to use the ICE then you'll notice it's not very economical on long journeys. A smaller turbo charged petrol engined car will be way better, as will an equivalent sized diesel.
So...you get the benefits over how you use it!
They are also all 4x4. There's basically 2 motors, one at each end. Brilliant in the snow as the power is so linear with the CVT gearbox. No wheelspin just grip! Oh and it can embarass a few few other car's at the traffic lights for the same reason.
So, if yo do the right journeys your fuel consumption will be 0mpg. If you use for the wrong journeys the consumption will be low 30's mpg.
I hear you and tks. So...you get the benefits over how you use it!
They are also all 4x4. There's basically 2 motors, one at each end. Brilliant in the snow as the power is so linear with the CVT gearbox. No wheelspin just grip! Oh and it can embarass a few few other car's at the traffic lights for the same reason.
So, if yo do the right journeys your fuel consumption will be 0mpg. If you use for the wrong journeys the consumption will be low 30's mpg.
Ill also read that other thread listed here many tks.
My concern is that with the wife's heavy right boot we wont get any real benefit from it.
Time for some more research
You only get the benefit if you drive it properly and for how it was intended..... boot it everywhere, then you might as well not bother.
Our fuel bill was been decimated when we part-ex'ed a Shogun for the Outlander. We went from £250 a month and 20mpg to £50 a month and lot's of mpg free electric driving! Haven't really noticed the electric bill going up as it coincided with a kid leaving home, but i'd say it's around £50 a month.
Our fuel bill was been decimated when we part-ex'ed a Shogun for the Outlander. We went from £250 a month and 20mpg to £50 a month and lot's of mpg free electric driving! Haven't really noticed the electric bill going up as it coincided with a kid leaving home, but i'd say it's around £50 a month.
Pica-Pica said:
super7 said:
So, if yo do the right journeys your fuel consumption will be 0mpg. If you use for the wrong journeys the consumption will be low 30's mpg.
...Define fuel.
Edited to add....
FFS!!!!!
Editied again to add....
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t!Edited by super7 on Monday 6th August 15:08
I have a company Outlander PHEV. Over the last 12,000 miles it has averaged 38mpg, but I do tend to drive cars fairly quickly.
My journeys are either local (mostly electric only) or 100miles of Motorway in to the office.
The last couple of times down the Motorway I decided to take it easy and see what it would do, at a steady 55-60 starting with a full battery gave me 59mpg, coming back (no opportunity to charge at work) same speed it gave 49mpg.
Driving it hard back from work it will generally average out at about 33mpg.
I normally get between 22-25 miles on a full charge.
I really like it and would consider spending my own money on one, definitely in preference to a Diesel.
My journeys are either local (mostly electric only) or 100miles of Motorway in to the office.
The last couple of times down the Motorway I decided to take it easy and see what it would do, at a steady 55-60 starting with a full battery gave me 59mpg, coming back (no opportunity to charge at work) same speed it gave 49mpg.
Driving it hard back from work it will generally average out at about 33mpg.
I normally get between 22-25 miles on a full charge.
I really like it and would consider spending my own money on one, definitely in preference to a Diesel.
super7 said:
You only get the benefit if you drive it properly and for how it was intended..... boot it everywhere, then you might as well not bother.
Our fuel bill was been decimated when we part-ex'ed a Shogun for the Outlander. We went from £250 a month and 20mpg to £50 a month and lot's of mpg free electric driving! Haven't really noticed the electric bill going up as it coincided with a kid leaving home, but i'd say it's around £50 a month.
For me it is £1.12 per charge, I only charge at home and not normally every day. But that normally gives me between 22 and 25 miles.Our fuel bill was been decimated when we part-ex'ed a Shogun for the Outlander. We went from £250 a month and 20mpg to £50 a month and lot's of mpg free electric driving! Haven't really noticed the electric bill going up as it coincided with a kid leaving home, but i'd say it's around £50 a month.
I have had my Outlander 3 months, some of my journeys days out and such like are long, fully charged I get near 25 miles using regen, if I go to work via the B roads I can get the 29 miles with about 17miles left on the battery meter. Going down the dual carriageway at 65 I run out of e juicea round the 23-25 mile mark. I get a free charge at work, so my daily journey costs next to nowt.
I did a journey of 110 miles yesterday, averaged 45mpg, some of it was between 70-80mp. I always press the charge button if I'm peddling it, get a few miles top up then hit save. The regen paddles are brilliant. As is the active cruise control. You get a nice acceleration boost with both the ICE and battery working together, it's no rocket ship but it's pretty quick for the size and weight of the car.
The petrol range isn't great as it has quite a small tank, I have done over 3000 miles in mine and filled up 4 times, I get around 750 to 800 miles per fill up.
A months charging at home costs me 28 quid. With no car tax
The Phev has a lot going for it if your doing city town driving, its a capable 4 wheel drive car, handles pretty well with little maintenance.
I did a journey of 110 miles yesterday, averaged 45mpg, some of it was between 70-80mp. I always press the charge button if I'm peddling it, get a few miles top up then hit save. The regen paddles are brilliant. As is the active cruise control. You get a nice acceleration boost with both the ICE and battery working together, it's no rocket ship but it's pretty quick for the size and weight of the car.
The petrol range isn't great as it has quite a small tank, I have done over 3000 miles in mine and filled up 4 times, I get around 750 to 800 miles per fill up.
A months charging at home costs me 28 quid. With no car tax
The Phev has a lot going for it if your doing city town driving, its a capable 4 wheel drive car, handles pretty well with little maintenance.
deltaevo16 said:
I have had my Outlander 3 months, some of my journeys days out and such like are long, fully charged I get near 25 miles using regen, if I go to work via the B roads I can get the 29 miles with about 17miles left on the battery meter. Going down the dual carriageway at 65 I run out of e juicea round the 23-25 mile mark. I get a free charge at work, so my daily journey costs next to nowt.
I did a journey of 110 miles yesterday, averaged 45mpg, some of it was between 70-80mp. I always press the charge button if I'm peddling it, get a few miles top up then hit save. The regen paddles are brilliant. As is the active cruise control. You get a nice acceleration boost with both the ICE and battery working together, it's no rocket ship but it's pretty quick for the size and weight of the car.
The petrol range isn't great as it has quite a small tank, I have done over 3000 miles in mine and filled up 4 times, I get around 750 to 800 miles per fill up.
A months charging at home costs me 28 quid. With no car tax
The Phev has a lot going for it if your doing city town driving, its a capable 4 wheel drive car, handles pretty well with little maintenance.
Does sound very appealing. I just have to convince the wife its the car for us and get her to stop looking at Range Rovers !I did a journey of 110 miles yesterday, averaged 45mpg, some of it was between 70-80mp. I always press the charge button if I'm peddling it, get a few miles top up then hit save. The regen paddles are brilliant. As is the active cruise control. You get a nice acceleration boost with both the ICE and battery working together, it's no rocket ship but it's pretty quick for the size and weight of the car.
The petrol range isn't great as it has quite a small tank, I have done over 3000 miles in mine and filled up 4 times, I get around 750 to 800 miles per fill up.
A months charging at home costs me 28 quid. With no car tax
The Phev has a lot going for it if your doing city town driving, its a capable 4 wheel drive car, handles pretty well with little maintenance.
FocusRS3 said:
Does sound very appealing. I just have to convince the wife its the car for us and get her to stop looking at Range Rovers !
That’s what I gave up, a 2002 HSE, great 4x4 but huge bills if it goes wrong. Not that mine did, apart from the odd failure of alternator, drove very well, enjoyed my ownership. The PHEV is a a mile different, I like cheaper motoring. I like getting to work and back for zero cost. Still takes some getting used to though like no sound when you start it, the milk float whirring makes me smile. Try the Outlander forums some good info on there.deltaevo16 said:
That’s what I gave up, a 2002 HSE, great 4x4 but huge bills if it goes wrong. Not that mine did, apart from the odd failure of alternator, drove very well, enjoyed my ownership. The PHEV is a a mile different, I like cheaper motoring. I like getting to work and back for zero cost. Still takes some getting used to though like no sound when you start it, the milk float whirring makes me smile. Try the Outlander forums some good info on there.
Tks mate will do .Ive had a few Rangies over the years and the costs of running them is crazy.
I'm thinking about an electric scooter too now !
We picked ours up on Sunday, it's a 2014 GX4h with 42000 miles on it (couldn't afford a new one)
Early days but with the Mrs stop start commute over 25 miles it will get her to work and most, if not all the way back without petrol.
We had a Leaf before that as well as a Subaru Legacy, which is going, so in effect we've replaced 2 vehicles with one. Having got so used to the EV drive train in the Leaf I couldn't go back to a normal car so the Outlander fitted the bill well.
I've been using Save or Charge on longer journeys on free flowing roads (50 miles or so) and managed about 65mpg, although in this case I didn't start with a full battery, it was about a quarter full so could have done much better with a full charge.
Really happy with it, it's the most I've ever spent on a car so it's a good job really.
Early days but with the Mrs stop start commute over 25 miles it will get her to work and most, if not all the way back without petrol.
We had a Leaf before that as well as a Subaru Legacy, which is going, so in effect we've replaced 2 vehicles with one. Having got so used to the EV drive train in the Leaf I couldn't go back to a normal car so the Outlander fitted the bill well.
I've been using Save or Charge on longer journeys on free flowing roads (50 miles or so) and managed about 65mpg, although in this case I didn't start with a full battery, it was about a quarter full so could have done much better with a full charge.
Really happy with it, it's the most I've ever spent on a car so it's a good job really.
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