Are Ford falling behind the Hybrid/EV markets?

[Mikey G]

I can only see 1 Hybrid model in the line up being a Mondeo and the development of a PHEV Transit. Anything else?

[HTP99]

There was an electric Focus, not sure if it is still available.

There are still a few manufacturers though that don't have a hybrid; Renault being one (but they are coming), Citroen and Peugeot (or electric either), I don't think VW do and Vauxhall no longer have a hybrid and they have never had an electric car.

[finlo]

HTP99 said:

There was an electric Focus, not sure if it is still available.

There are still a few manufacturers though that don't have a hybrid; Renault being one (but they are coming), Citroen and Peugeot (or electric either), I don't think VW do and Vauxhall no longer have a hybrid and they have never had an electric car.

Vauxhall Ampera?

[Nickbrapp]

HTP99 said:

There was an electric Focus, not sure if it is still available.

There are still a few manufacturers though that don't have a hybrid; Renault being one (but they are coming), Citroen and Peugeot (or electric either), I don't think VW do and Vauxhall no longer have a hybrid and they have never had an electric car.

VW have the Passat and golf GTE plug in hybrids, the e golf and the eup!

Vauxhall don’t, no be buys Vauxhall’s and no one would buy a electric one either, the ampera isn’t sold anymore

[HTP99]

finlo said:

HTP99 said:

There was an electric Focus, not sure if it is still available.

There are still a few manufacturers though that don't have a hybrid; Renault being one (but they are coming), Citroen and Peugeot (or electric either), I don't think VW do and Vauxhall no longer have a hybrid and they have never had an electric car.

Vauxhall Ampera?

I don't think it is available anymore, it certainly is no longer sold in the UK, hence why I said "no longer have a hybrid"

[Rich Boy Spanner]

Mikey G said:

I can only see 1 Hybrid model in the line up being a Mondeo and the development of a PHEV Transit. Anything else?

I looked at that Mondeo hybrid as a company car, and it's Co2 emissions were higher than my turbo diesel. Seems quite a pointless thing.

[ajprice]

HTP99 said:

There was an electric Focus, not sure if it is still available.

There are still a few manufacturers though that don't have a hybrid; Renault being one (but they are coming), Citroen and Peugeot (or electric either), I don't think VW do and Vauxhall no longer have a hybrid and they have never had an electric car.

Citroen C-Zero and Peugeot iOn are the rebadged Mitsubishi i-MiEV, which is the EV version of the petrol Mitsubishi i from 2006. So yeah, not the greatest thing in 2018

[sjg]

Ford did have a plug-in hybrid C-Max in the US (I'm guessing a compliance car), although it seems to just be non-plug-in hybrid for 2018.

VW have stopped selling the Golf and Passat GTEs (a mix of supply constraints and WLTP stuff) and VW don't seem that keen on selling the e-Golf - tiny discounts, no finance support, long waits for people that order. Apparently the next Golf will be mild hybrid only and the ID cars will be the electric ones.

Opel sell the Ampera-E (their version of the Chevrolet Bolt) in Europe, there was rumours of a RHD Vauxhall version but I guess that's unlikely with the sale to PSA.

PSA have done hybrid diesel in the past, they were meant to be pretty awful.

Kia and Hyundai are quietly cracking on, decent PHEVs in family car sizes and very capable battery electric cars too.

Development cycles can be very long and it feels like lots of manufacturers thought they'd have a lot longer to push diesels and sit back and wait to see what happened. They'll now have the other problem of securing enough supply of batteries.