Which EV home charger?

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JB8

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381 posts

150 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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My new PHEV arrives tomorrow and I'm thinking of getting either a ChargedEV or Rolec installed.

Non-thethered 7.2kW versions - both pretty cheap.

Anyone got experience with either?

Cheers

jonobigblind

786 posts

87 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Some reports of early Rolec ones having reliability issues but generally much of a muchness now.

Aesthetics and price tend to separate the standard run of the mill ones and Charged EV have a December sale on at the moment with £99 untethered and £199 for their tethered unit.

Not bad prices at all, especially as charging the PHEV is less essential than charging a BEV and the unit only shaves a bit of time off using the three pin charger. The aim would be to get the unit as cheap as possible to help keep the e-miles under the price of fuel. Bulb seem to have a great tariff for your energy supply too - handily low electric unit price.

Tethered unit lot less hassle than having to plug and unplug both ends each time though.

Job38

1,969 posts

241 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I used PodPoint, not the cheapest but good-looking and great service.

quinny100

954 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I'm happy with my Pod Point. They are not necessarily the cheapest, but their standard install price covers more scenarios than other vendors.

I'd highly recommend a tethered unit if you're install is outside - saves faffing in the boot for the cable.


essayer

9,439 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Definitely get a tethered one, much easier

JB8

Original Poster:

381 posts

150 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Thanks for the replies.

Tethered worth the extra cost then?

ian964

534 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I've got an i3 on the way and have also been looking at charging points. Ultimately it just seems to come to which one you like the look of the most. I quite like the EO ones - https://www.eocharging.com/home-chargers - relatively clean and simple

Mr E

22,032 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I have a pod point but only because nissan/the taxpayer paid for it.

giblet

8,897 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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I’m looking at Chargedev ones for work and possibly home use too.

Home is less essential since I spend more time parked up at work, and work are happy to cover the electricity costs.

dobly

1,262 posts

164 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Orion917

97 posts

95 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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ChargedEv, looked good on price but never turned up, moved my install date 3 times then let me down on the day. Not happy.

Eventually I had an EO charger installed by a local electrician who was OLEV registered, untethered. Nice clean design, all good except for the very bright EO logo that is the status LED. This is very bright in the dark and advertises to the street that you have an EV charger there. A bit of carefully placed black tape sorted that without ruining the aesthetics!

I was going tethered all the way, but eventually went tethered. No cheaper overall because you have to buy a cable but this has meant that I have used it a few times when out and about. I had not done that before. The extra faff in getting the cable in and out of the boot is nothing to sway your choice really IMO. You still have to coil the cable if it's tethered to stow it neatly, buy the time you've done that you could have lobbed it in the boot! Swings and roundabouts. I have actually mounted a padlock on the wall below the charger where I can loop through and lock the cable down if I want to when popping in and out and the weekends (see below too)

It's definitely worth it even for a PHEV. Charge time is now 2 hours instead of 3/4, this is especially beneficial when you are popping in and out. You get a decent recharge at max amps, when the supplied three pin would have not have been worth the bother.

Somebody

1,288 posts

88 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Orion917 said:
ChargedEv, looked good on price but never turned up, moved my install date 3 times then let me down on the day. Not happy.

Eventually I had an EO charger installed by a local electrician who was OLEV registered, untethered. Nice clean design, all good except for the very bright EO logo that is the status LED. This is very bright in the dark and advertises to the street that you have an EV charger there. A bit of carefully placed black tape sorted that without ruining the aesthetics!

I was going tethered all the way, but eventually went tethered. No cheaper overall because you have to buy a cable but this has meant that I have used it a few times when out and about. I had not done that before. The extra faff in getting the cable in and out of the boot is nothing to sway your choice really IMO. You still have to coil the cable if it's tethered to stow it neatly, buy the time you've done that you could have lobbed it in the boot! Swings and roundabouts. I have actually mounted a padlock on the wall below the charger where I can loop through and lock the cable down if I want to when popping in and out and the weekends (see below too)

It's definitely worth it even for a PHEV. Charge time is now 2 hours instead of 3/4, this is especially beneficial when you are popping in and out. You get a decent recharge at max amps, when the supplied three pin would have not have been worth the bother.
Orion917 said:
I was going tethered all the way, but eventually went tethered.
The second tethered should read untethered? I believe you have a 330e from the other thread? Did you know you could have got a BMW blue coiled cable for around £125? Much less faffing trying to get it tidy to put back in the boot.

giblet

8,897 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Chargedev finally got back to me with a quote of £1800 for two 7kw points at the office. Farcical.

essayer

9,439 posts

199 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Does it actually need to be an approved company? Surely any electrician can do it.

giblet

8,897 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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It seems the charge points are heavily subsidised with the government grants when you go through an approved company.

That being said a 7kw standard socket is £99 if I was to have it installed at home going by their website prices.

Chris-S

282 posts

93 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Happy with the tethered Rolec I had installed earlier this year.

The installers massage the price so they make the most they possibly can (obviously). Given you can buy a Rolec for about £300, yet they charge an effective £700 to have one put in, is an obvious case of them 'working' the grant system. Sadly, I just tagged along with it as it cost me £200 with the grant, rather than probably £400 to DIY it. If they had been scrupulously honest (yeah, right) then it would have cost about the grant figure, still allowing them a decent profit, so free to me. Again, yeah, right.

Frimley111R

15,811 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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essayer said:
Does it actually need to be an approved company? Surely any electrician can do it.
Yes they can but you can't claim it back if you're not approved by OLEV, Installs seem like quick work but many homes need additional consumer boxes, they aren't simply like wiring up an outside socket next to the main consumer box and general electrical paperwork can take quite a lot of time.

It seems like a quick and simple job but its rarely the case.

Chris-S

282 posts

93 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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The bloke that did mine had it easy - I'd already run a cable in 10mm from adjacent to the CU and even drilled the hole in the outside wall ready for him. The limit they put on a 'standard install' is a direct 10m run from the CU, and they only do surface runs. I wanted the cable to go a specific, indirect route so did it myself before they came to fit. Had a spare MCB ready too.

As for the paperwork...despite me telling them from day one it was a TT install and the guy actually inspecting the earth spike himself, they put the wrong supply standard down on the certification paperwork.

Forgot to say, good call on the part of the OP to specify the 7.2kW version - never know where a PHEV may lead.... smile My C350e can only charge at 3.6kW but it seemed daft to limit future options by having a 3.6kW charger installed. Never know, might have an iPace one day.

essayer

9,439 posts

199 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Frimley111R said:
Yes they can but you can't claim it back if you're not approved by OLEV, Installs seem like quick work but many homes need additional consumer boxes, they aren't simply like wiring up an outside socket next to the main consumer box and general electrical paperwork can take quite a lot of time.

It seems like a quick and simple job but its rarely the case.
Took our guy half a day to fit an additional CU inc Henley block and neatly run cable under ceilings etc for a single 7kW charger.

Too Drunk to Funk

804 posts

82 months

Monday 11th December 2017
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giblet said:
Chargedev finally got back to me with a quote of £1800 for two 7kw points at the office. Farcical.
Think of all the money you'll save on petrol.