Tesla Roadster 2
Discussion
GODSENT3345 said:
At this point I ll believe it when I see one actually driving down the road. The numbers have always sounded impressive, but the wait has been something else.
I'm not even sure the numbers sound that impressive anymore. I mean no one is going to call it slow, but it no longer sounds otherworldly. kambites said:
GODSENT3345 said:
At this point I ll believe it when I see one actually driving down the road. The numbers have always sounded impressive, but the wait has been something else.
I'm not even sure the numbers sound that impressive anymore. I mean no one is going to call it slow, but it no longer sounds otherworldly. Gone fishing said:
That s the thing with Musk - he s the first to announce things and then push his engineers to deliver, but he s reliant on Moores Law and whatever the equivalents are in battery tech to catch up to make it actually deliverable. Just because he announces it first doesn t mean they deliver first or are the only ones.
Tesla themselves have posted the presentation is on the 1st October.GTO-3R said:
Gone fishing said:
That s the thing with Musk - he s the first to announce things and then push his engineers to deliver, but he s reliant on Moores Law and whatever the equivalents are in battery tech to catch up to make it actually deliverable. Just because he announces it first doesn t mean they deliver first or are the only ones.
Tesla themselves have posted the presentation is on the 1st October.But Tesla themselves have promised it coming “next month”, “later this year” and “coming soon” repeatedly for years. Tesla took deposits of $50K and even allowed people to buy founder edition cars for $250k 9 years ago with the promise of it being imminent and here we are… still waiting for a potential promise of something that may not even be driveable on public roads if it really does have SpaceX rocket thrusters like he’s promised. But please feel free to Keep drinking the coolaid
Count me among the continued skeptics, even though I'm a multiple Tesla owner...
That said, the other aspect is that EV performance has moved on considerably since the Roadster 2.0 was originally specced.
The Rimac Nevera / Nevera R and the McMurtry Spierling are both capable of beating the Roadster 2.0's original announced specs, albeit at many multiples of the Roadster's announced asking price..
It wouldn't be very Tesla-like for this car NOT to be the fastest of all at the moment of its introduction at least, just like the Plaid was.
We'll see - eventually! (?)
That said, the other aspect is that EV performance has moved on considerably since the Roadster 2.0 was originally specced.
The Rimac Nevera / Nevera R and the McMurtry Spierling are both capable of beating the Roadster 2.0's original announced specs, albeit at many multiples of the Roadster's announced asking price..
It wouldn't be very Tesla-like for this car NOT to be the fastest of all at the moment of its introduction at least, just like the Plaid was.
We'll see - eventually! (?)
Zcd1 said:
Count me among the continued skeptics, even though I'm a multiple Tesla owner...
That said, the other aspect is that EV performance has moved on considerably since the Roadster 2.0 was originally specced.
The Rimac Nevera / Nevera R and the McMurtry Spierling are both capable of beating the Roadster 2.0's original announced specs, albeit at many multiples of the Roadster's announced asking price..
It wouldn't be very Tesla-like for this car NOT to be the fastest of all at the moment of its introduction at least, just like the Plaid was.
We'll see - eventually! (?)
I’ve seen elsewhere the spec is essentially the same as the outgoing Model S Plaid with 1.9s to 60 times and I suspect will be reusing a lot of the Model S hardware. The 1 second performance will be from a “SpaceX package” and will be track focused thrusters, probably a drag strip specialThat said, the other aspect is that EV performance has moved on considerably since the Roadster 2.0 was originally specced.
The Rimac Nevera / Nevera R and the McMurtry Spierling are both capable of beating the Roadster 2.0's original announced specs, albeit at many multiples of the Roadster's announced asking price..
It wouldn't be very Tesla-like for this car NOT to be the fastest of all at the moment of its introduction at least, just like the Plaid was.
We'll see - eventually! (?)
So all in all, unless they’ve burnt billions on R&D this will be a coupe MS Plaid which they could have done at any point in the last 5 years and a bolt on gimmick nobody but a few influencers will buy. There may be a few cybertruck carry overs like steer by wire, again something that’s been in their parts bin for a while.
GTO-3R said:
1st October and lots of speculation that it s going to fly. Contrast changes on the latest image show it saying where we re going being the line doc brown says at the end of back to the future.
Will be interesting at least!
If they use any kind of cold thruster to lift the car then it will be ear splitting and obviously just a stunt. Even if they used them for acceleration they can't get away from the noise.Will be interesting at least!
This prompted me to look around a bit, and I found some articles about the Denza Z Spider. Prices announced (around 150,000£ in the UK, it seems) and demonstrators have been seen in metal. Apparently, handling is more GT than track - could be a fine-tuning issue.
The open-top version is, of course, slow compared to 10-year-old Roadster 2 promises (2.3 seconds to 100km/h), but 5 minute 10-70% charging time might be a consolation.
The open-top version is, of course, slow compared to 10-year-old Roadster 2 promises (2.3 seconds to 100km/h), but 5 minute 10-70% charging time might be a consolation.
Gone fishing said:
I ve seen elsewhere the spec is essentially the same as the outgoing Model S Plaid with 1.9s to 60 times and I suspect will be reusing a lot of the Model S hardware. The 1 second performance will be from a SpaceX package and will be track focused thrusters, probably a drag strip special
So all in all, unless they ve burnt billions on R&D this will be a coupe MS Plaid which they could have done at any point in the last 5 years and a bolt on gimmick nobody but a few influencers will buy. There may be a few cybertruck carry overs like steer by wire, again something that s been in their parts bin for a while.
Stripped (interior bits mostly gone except for the driver’s seat and controls), tuned Plaids are running mid-8 second quarter mile times, so removing an additional ~500 lbs. and adding ~250HP would put the Roadster 2.0 in that Rimac/McMurtry performance neighborhood…. Wouldn’t require much in the way of dollars to develop either. So all in all, unless they ve burnt billions on R&D this will be a coupe MS Plaid which they could have done at any point in the last 5 years and a bolt on gimmick nobody but a few influencers will buy. There may be a few cybertruck carry overs like steer by wire, again something that s been in their parts bin for a while.
That’s what I’m expecting.
And as was mentioned, Tesla still has the 800V architecture and steer-by-wire tech from the Cybertruck that could theoretically be leveraged for Roadster 2.0 as well…
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