EV charging and old terraced streets
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I have considered an EV or at least a PHEV for the last 6 months but one thing that is holding me back is charging.
I live on an old terraced street, I have double yellows outside my house with very little street parking and an uncontrolled parking area 100 yards up the road where I tend to park my daily. I do have a garage with power at the back of my house but its used for 'project' cars and is on a main road so no parking available. Also my home only has a small incoming supply, cant access the fuse but it looks like 16mm cables..
So at this moment in time its not ideal for me to purchase any of the above until maybe I have access to charging in work or an EV only parking area close to home appears.
So my question is, with the growing use and sales of EV type vehicles and then the 'ban' on petrol and diesel sales in many years, how do you think the local councils and the uk in general are going to cope with the massive change in infrastructure required in areas such as mine?
I live on an old terraced street, I have double yellows outside my house with very little street parking and an uncontrolled parking area 100 yards up the road where I tend to park my daily. I do have a garage with power at the back of my house but its used for 'project' cars and is on a main road so no parking available. Also my home only has a small incoming supply, cant access the fuse but it looks like 16mm cables..
So at this moment in time its not ideal for me to purchase any of the above until maybe I have access to charging in work or an EV only parking area close to home appears.
So my question is, with the growing use and sales of EV type vehicles and then the 'ban' on petrol and diesel sales in many years, how do you think the local councils and the uk in general are going to cope with the massive change in infrastructure required in areas such as mine?
Thanks for your helpfull contribution, I do have the only garage in the street and i'm pretty sure in 10 years time when EV's are even more popular my neighbours in the same situation who dont have a garage and may also be looking to change will be worse off... no we cant park out the back due to the bank my garage is inset into and the planning authorities will not allow new developments into it, my garage was an old smithy in the early days and has been around longer than the main road...
Jag_NE said:
so you can charge an ev at home, you just choose not too because you want to use the space for something else. many old terraced houses have back yards that could accomodate a small-medium car, people just cant be arsed and want the authorities to present a solution.
..and many terraced house DO NOT have parking at the rear (fields etc)hairyben said:
Isnt the big idea that in 10 years time your car will just toddle off and charge itself? (if you even have one of your own)
Will the technical advances be such that the cars will chat to each other while they are waiting to be charged?"Oh no, I wouldn't go back to that High street charging point again, I was left waiting while a Tesla went in front of me". "Quite rude they were". "I gave them a piece of my mind". "I shall write to the my MP".
The detail the OP has left out is how many miles a week they drive!
Plenty of people in Towns who only do a few miles a day, even with an EV with just 100miles range, would only have to charge up once a week or so.
If you do Eleventy Billion miles a day then no, it's going to be a PITA
Plenty of people in Towns who only do a few miles a day, even with an EV with just 100miles range, would only have to charge up once a week or so.
If you do Eleventy Billion miles a day then no, it's going to be a PITA
turbomoped said:
As a futurist with spare time available to help apple,google and the like predict future trends ,extension cords running up and down the street will be the new battleground between neighbors ,replacing overhanging branches and bins in the way.
There has to be a move to a removable, rechargeable/swappable battery. Solar chargeable? The problem is compounded by heavy vehicles. Improvements in active safety could be the path to reducing collision occurrence and reducing weight.Pica-Pica said:
There has to be a move to a removable, rechargeable/swappable battery. Solar chargeable? The problem is compounded by heavy vehicles. Improvements in active safety could be the path to reducing collision occurrence and reducing weight.
The leaf battery is over 100kg and that doesnt even get you real car range.Solar panels - need something about the size of a tennis court to harvest enough juice for a family sized car.
Sheepshanks said:
Really, all these old houses should be flattened. Their replacements will be equipped with a charging point.
Really? When will that start?
There are tens of thousands of houses recently, and still being, built with no garages and no off street parking. And no provision at all for on street charging yet.
Have a look at Milton Keynes for one. There alone there are thousands of such properties.
I'm not saying it won't happen but it doesn't seem to be at all imminent.
Jag_NE said:
so you can charge an ev at home, you just choose not too because you want to use the space for something else. many old terraced houses have back yards that could accomodate a small-medium car, people just cant be arsed and want the authorities to present a solution.
As I said above, there are many new properties that have no garages, off street parking or EV charging facilities.
Mostly they're the result of deliberate, failed policies of 'the authorities' aimed at reducing car ownership and usage.
Those 'authorities' have created this issue, why shouldn't they find a solution?
How many miles a week do you do?
You could run a BEV or a REx from home without charging if you do low mileage, but you'd need either charging at work or a rapid charger available somewhere nearby. A Zoe 40 on a rapid charger will get to 80% in half an hour.
There aren't many places that can't be graced by 240V these days so it's not an insurmountable challenge to provide power to those without a parking spot at home.
You could run a BEV or a REx from home without charging if you do low mileage, but you'd need either charging at work or a rapid charger available somewhere nearby. A Zoe 40 on a rapid charger will get to 80% in half an hour.
There aren't many places that can't be graced by 240V these days so it's not an insurmountable challenge to provide power to those without a parking spot at home.
Heres Johnny said:
Street lamps are attached to houses, any lead will have to go over pavement, unless a device to dangle down without strangling pedestrians could be done. As for size and weight, perhaps a trolley at 'fuel' stations. If this is the future, infrastructure is needed (local lock up with several charging bays, including hire cars?)Pica-Pica said:
Street lamps are attached to houses, any lead will have to go over pavement, unless a device to dangle down without strangling pedestrians could be done. As for size and weight, perhaps a trolley at 'fuel' stations. If this is the future, infrastructure is needed (local lock up with several charging bays, including hire cars?)
Attached to houses? No they’re not. Did you read the article? It’s happening. I know Tesla owners on the trial (Deryn for those on the owners group forum). It’s a cable with a few electronics in which are linked to owner. Not all street chargers require cables across the road, I guess some might be less suitable. There are already many hundreds if not thousands of charging posts for on street parking (google it to see), charging from a lamppost is just the same, they’ve just decided they can reuse some existing infrastructure.
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