ev as company car as BIK increases
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Will people still have pure EV's as company cars as the BIK keeps increasing ?
When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
ds666 said:
Will people still have pure EV's as company cars as the BIK keeps increasing ?
When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
Depends what is available in 2019-2021 period. BIK is just one part about the economical viability. That and range is constantly increases and will most likely not decrease. BIK is going to be 16% by April 2020 (at the moment).When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
Yes there's the cost of the car with BIK, but also the cost per mile of running it. If you've already bought an EV/PHEV and have the cables, a wallpoint installed etc, know where you can charge on your most common routes it's a cost assessment.
With many manufacturers plans to EV/PHEV most of their ranges I don't see how they would sell the cars if they are more expensive per mile to both fleet/business drivers and non-business drivers who are in the market for that size/power of vehicle.
2019-20 is 16% for my car (i3 range extender) following from 7% now going up to 13% in 18-19 (last year I have it under three year contract hire). But in 20-21 it gets better again - under 50g cars will be 2%-14% depending on pure electric range (criteria not yet published). That was new announcement in this week's autumn statement.
I would expect there to be lobbying to reduce 19-20 back down sonconsistent with 20-21 proposals but as it stands that is a disincentive to replace the i3 with another electric car. Fancy the Jag I-Pace but 15 months at 13%/16% might make me delay and see what else is around at the time.
Next time I want something with more leccy range and five seats / bigger boot
I would expect there to be lobbying to reduce 19-20 back down sonconsistent with 20-21 proposals but as it stands that is a disincentive to replace the i3 with another electric car. Fancy the Jag I-Pace but 15 months at 13%/16% might make me delay and see what else is around at the time.
Next time I want something with more leccy range and five seats / bigger boot
under 50g cars will be 2%-14% depending on pure electric range (criteria not yet published).
That's interesting - do you have a link to that info ?
My feelings are that zero co2 cars should have a lower BIK and that the hybrids that effectively exploit the way co2 is measured by current tests should be subject to more representative testing .
We all know manufacturers' mpg figures as per testing are about 85% correct but the hybrid bit completely distorts that . For example EVO mag have an i8 on test - suggested mpg is 135 , actual is 35 ..... making its BIK a bit of a mickey take ...
That's interesting - do you have a link to that info ?
My feelings are that zero co2 cars should have a lower BIK and that the hybrids that effectively exploit the way co2 is measured by current tests should be subject to more representative testing .
We all know manufacturers' mpg figures as per testing are about 85% correct but the hybrid bit completely distorts that . For example EVO mag have an i8 on test - suggested mpg is 135 , actual is 35 ..... making its BIK a bit of a mickey take ...
ds666 said:
Will people still have pure EV's as company cars as the BIK keeps increasing ?
When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
Have you seen the Autumn Statement. In 3.5 years (April 2020), the BIK on EVs will be 2%!When it was zero , I could accept the low range or the continual need to plug-in as the car was effectively free . As the BIK rushes towards 20% ( I'm guessing that will be the minimum in 3-4 years ) they become significantly less attractive .
BIK on cars above 75g CO2 will be on a sliding scale up to from 22% to 37%.
Amateurish said:
Have you seen the Autumn Statement. In 3.5 years (April 2020), the BIK on EVs will be 2%!
BIK on cars above 75g CO2 will be on a sliding scale up to from 22% to 37%.
2-14%, dependent upon how many miles the vehicle can go on electric range. So yes pure EVs like Tesla, 93a-i3 etc will probably be 2%. An Outlander/C350e/Prius/330e will probably be at the 14% range.BIK on cars above 75g CO2 will be on a sliding scale up to from 22% to 37%.
caseys said:
2-14%, dependent upon how many miles the vehicle can go on electric range. So yes pure EVs like Tesla, 93a-i3 etc will probably be 2%. An Outlander/C350e/Prius/330e will probably be at the 14% range.
But isn't this ridiculous ?BMW create the lightest electric city car with a big enough battery for most daily requirements, a piece of Eco jewellery.
Tesla create a load lugging yankee motor that combines big weight and a bigger battery --- in order to recreate a conventional car but with a big battery and big electric motor ...
And you pay more BIK for the carbon chassis'd i3 ....
Bonkers ...
ChrisW. said:
But isn't this ridiculous ?
BMW create the lightest electric city car with a big enough battery for most daily requirements, a piece of Eco jewellery.
Tesla create a load lugging yankee motor that combines big weight and a bigger battery --- in order to recreate a conventional car but with a big battery and big electric motor ...
And you pay more BIK for the carbon chassis'd i3 ....
Bonkers ...
I doubt the rate will be more for the i3 - this is likely a move to penalise phev cars that can only do 10-30 miles whereas the i3 can do 100+BMW create the lightest electric city car with a big enough battery for most daily requirements, a piece of Eco jewellery.
Tesla create a load lugging yankee motor that combines big weight and a bigger battery --- in order to recreate a conventional car but with a big battery and big electric motor ...
And you pay more BIK for the carbon chassis'd i3 ....
Bonkers ...
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