These ripoff home charger schemes
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I was quoted £150 or £200 for a home charging point install. Together with the £500 of subsidy this works out something in the order of £350 for the labour. I asked the scammers if I can expect the sparky on site for two days since I'm paying that much and no, it's a 30 minute job (in my case, which is just running a cable around the outside of the house, lazy feckers).
Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
supermono said:
I was quoted £150 or £200 for a home charging point install. Together with the £500 of subsidy this works out something in the order of £350 for the labour. I asked the scammers if I can expect the sparky on site for two days since I'm paying that much and no, it's a 30 minute job (in my case, which is just running a cable around the outside of the house, lazy feckers).
Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
Sub £200.00 for a 16a home charger excluding install, Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
Please do share..
supermono said:
I was quoted £150 or £200 for a home charging point install. Together with the £500 of subsidy this works out something in the order of £350 for the labour. I asked the scammers if I can expect the sparky on site for two days since I'm paying that much and no, it's a 30 minute job (in my case, which is just running a cable around the outside of the house, lazy feckers).
Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
Your profile says that you are a company director, but the above comments (particularly reference to scammers, rip off & rouge traders) seems to show an appreciable lack of understanding how business works.Honestly, there are clearly enough people who regard their tax money as "free" money, they're happy to let these rogue traders get away with it.
Such a shame a decent government scheme is rinsed by these a-holes.
Doesn't anyone else do a value check on these installations like they normally would, beyond what it costs you?
By all means, analyse a quotation to assess value for money, and if you are not happy with the price, then vote with your feet and buy elsewhere. I don't understand the need for the rip off and scam accusations.
Mandat said:
Your profile says that you are a company director, but the above comments (particularly reference to scammers, rip off & rouge traders) seems to show an appreciable lack of understanding how business works.
By all means, analyse a quotation to assess value for money, and if you are not happy with the price, then vote with your feet and buy elsewhere. I don't understand the need for the rip off and scam accusations.
I know business well enough and I'm obviously not using these guys. If others understood that 350 quid for around an hour of labour this particular business model (aka scam) wouldn't succeed. For me I need to be able to lay out my costs transparently and stand proudly behind them, but that's just me. This bloke knew I was onto him and squirmed a bit before having to admit the labour portion was this extortionate figure.By all means, analyse a quotation to assess value for money, and if you are not happy with the price, then vote with your feet and buy elsewhere. I don't understand the need for the rip off and scam accusations.
If the guy spent all day on the job doing it right -- lifting floors, rodding the cable around and doing a proper neat install -- that'd be one thing, but charging that fee for a bodge it quick around the outside of the house job just isn't acceptable.
pherlopolus said:
Took 2 people a couple of hours to do ours, and they only did one more on the day - and they had to come to Telford from Nottingham to fit it!
£350 for that wouldn't be extortionate. The install they proposed for me was sub-hour for one guy -- hole out through the back of the CU, bang on a wire running around 5 metres, screw the box onto the wall, run the cable into it. I could do it myself in that time and I'm not an expert.
supermono said:
pherlopolus said:
Took 2 people a couple of hours to do ours, and they only did one more on the day - and they had to come to Telford from Nottingham to fit it!
£350 for that wouldn't be extortionate. The install they proposed for me was sub-hour for one guy -- hole out through the back of the CU, bang on a wire running around 5 metres, screw the box onto the wall, run the cable into it. I could do it myself in that time and I'm not an expert.
How do you come up with the sub one hour bit? Tell you what, start now. Time how long it takes you to do the following:
- talk to the customer and discuss requirements, possibly even a site visit?
- type up a quote and log it on your system
- phone time to agree with customer schedule for work
- down the wholesaler to stock up on stuff (ok, not every job but a proportion needs applying)
- drive to site
- inspect CU, make safe, get access to drill out the back (or whatever), probably involves moving a few circuits to make space
- drill through wall
- run cable, if it is armoured gland both ends and terminate properly, clip to wall.
- fasten charger to wall, wire up, test
- tidy up CU, seal hole in wall etc
- write up cert, invoice, log on the system and notify
- chase payment, update accounts
You really saying you can do all that lot in sub one hour. If you can you deserve to earn £350 an hour
As pherlopolus said, planning more than two jobs a day would be silly.
I am not saying £350 labour is cheap or even what I would want to pay (or more to the point, what I would charge......) but calling it a scam is laughable.
pherlopolus said:
Took 2 people a couple of hours to do ours, and they only did one more on the day - and they had to come to Telford from Nottingham to fit it!
Was that a similar install to the OP's?Circa four hour round trip for this work isn't very efficient, although supermono will probably say he can do that journey in 30 mins.
Sheepshanks said:
Was that a similar install to the OP's?
Circa four hour round trip for this work isn't very efficient, although supermono will probably say he can do that journey in 30 mins.
They had another one in Telford that day, it was the furthest he had ever been for a job, but didn't seem that bothered, it's about an hour and a half each way.Circa four hour round trip for this work isn't very efficient, although supermono will probably say he can do that journey in 30 mins.
It was a polec box on the wall behind the distribution box in the garage, needed a new thingy in the distribution box as well. GSM/Meter box on inside, polec on the outside.
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