Mitsubishi PHEV Commercial

[felixlighter]

Any one running a PHEV ? I see they now offer a commercial version that could replace my current diesel van, trouble is it's a 200mile round journey on the motorway once a week. How do they perform long distance, fuel consumption etc.?

[andyalan10]

I have one one experience of an 80 or so mile journey on motorway/dual carriageway starting with minimal charge. I was impressed with how often it would drop the petrol engine on any slight deceleration or downhill or whatever. Trip computer was around 40mpg.

Based on that I would say that if it's 200 miles at a steady 70mph, not too good an idea, but if there's any likelihood of varying speed - congested motorway or dual carriageway with roundabouts for example - the figures might be quite impressive. And the petrol-electric combination is so much smoother than a diesel, especially one with auto-stop start shaking the whole car every time.

Andy

[jkh112]

On a 200 mile round trip,with no mid point recharge, you will only achieve an average of 35 to 40 mpg if you drive at around 75mph. Dropping the speed does increase the mpg .
It is really economical around town but not so good at higher speeds. It is however very quiet and smooth on a motorway journey.

Edited by jkh112 on Sunday 17th May 13:30

[RKDE]

I drive the normal version every day. The real question is what the rest of your driving is.

For me I only drive locally - less than 30 miles each day well 10 miles maximum. I do not use fuel daily. However when I go on a long trip I have planned it for the odd free charge to keep the mpg good.

If you do more fuel driving than EV then the diesel will be better suited, same if you can't charge it.

The car is brilliant if you do the perfect driving ie short trips without using the petrol motor

[felixlighter]

Thanks for your replies. My journey is from Ringwood Hampshire into Fulham London not entering the central congestion charging area.
I did fancy a change from the usual van and thought this could be it. It's a shame that it wouldn't appear for me to have any advantage apart from tax. Can't see this technology being beaten though, it's a great step forward.

[RKDE]

The technology will improve but looking about all the phev type vehicle are offering a circa 30 mile range and then onto fuel.

A lot of people get the Mitsubishi wrong and complain the vehicle does not do the MPG, in reality it is a big heavy brick with a low powered petrol NA engine. This would be bad in all SUV and to obtain 30mpg on an all petrol run would be expected.

The only way to really enjoy a car like this is to have low miles. I only use fuel if I need to go on a trip which is rare and I do plan for the free charges. If I need to run on fuel I just do though.

Currently my fuel miles is over 200mpg which is way above the claimed 140mpg but my trips are almost always within my EV range and I do a lot small trips.
Looking at what driving I have done that car will work for me but there are lots it will not.

You have done well to ask and FYI next year the diesel L200 PHEV should be released, this should suit you better

[scubadude]

RKDE said:

FYI next year the diesel L200 PHEV should be released

{sits up and takes note}

Hello- what's that? A diesel, electric hybrid truck? Hats off to Mitsubishi, they are certainly innovative in this area.

[maffski]

What does the rest of the week look like? Worse performance on one long trip could be offset if you're doing short trips the rest of the week.

[RKDE]

scubadude said:

RKDE said:

FYI next year the diesel L200 PHEV should be released

{sits up and takes note}

Hello- what's that? A diesel, electric hybrid truck? Hats off to Mitsubishi, they are certainly innovative in this area.

This is the concept but as always OTT - should be an interesting vehicle

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/innovation/gr-hev...

[AnotherClarkey]

RKDE said:

This is the concept but as always OTT - should be an interesting vehicle

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/innovation/gr-hev...

The built in generator is potentially a very useful thing....

[felixlighter]

maffski said:

What does the rest of the week look like? Worse performance on one long trip could be offset if you're doing short trips the rest of the week.

One day a week use only.
That pick-up concept looks interesting

[maffski]

felixlighter said:

maffski said:

What does the rest of the week look like? Worse performance on one long trip could be offset if you're doing short trips the rest of the week.

One day a week use only.
That pick-up concept looks interesting

If you'll only make one trip a week and that's it then you want a diesel. And you want to hire it for the day.

[felixlighter]

maffski said:

If you'll only make one trip a week and that's it then you want a diesel. And you want to hire it for the day.

Are you suggesting there is a diesel commercial version

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/outlander/whatvan...

Edited by felixlighter on Thursday 21st May 15:03

My local dealer never mentioned this, I wonder why?

Edited by felixlighter on Thursday 21st May 19:23

[rwoodward]

I picked up my outlander PHEV (car not commercial) last week, and I've just taken it away on holiday with me - 120 miles there, (started on full charge) then about 100 miles around and about but charging it up every night via a 13amp plug. 120 miles back from a full charge.

pretty much fully loaded (2 adults, 1 kid, 1 labrador and every cubbyhole crammed) we got an average of 52mpg on the 2 long trips - and all on EV for the round the doors so can't complain!

My Wife's got an Ampera when I don't need the extra storage space - which does more per charge but doesn't accommodate the lab!

[oop north]

RKDE said:

scubadude said:

RKDE said:

FYI next year the diesel L200 PHEV should be released

{sits up and takes note}

Hello- what's that? A diesel, electric hybrid truck? Hats off to Mitsubishi, they are certainly innovative in this area.

This is the concept but as always OTT - should be an interesting vehicle

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/innovation/gr-hev...

I was talking to my local dealer about the outlander and Mitsubishi 's plans - he said that the entire range will go phev - he seemed very unhappy about it as it will mean that (a lot of) their existing customer base for L200 and shogun will be lost due to reduction in towing capacity

[scubadude]

rwoodward said:

pretty much fully loaded (2 adults, 1 kid, 1 labrador and every cubbyhole crammed) we got an average of 52mpg on the 2 long trips - and all on EV for the round the doors so can't complain!

My wife and I drove one, we where impressed and for local runs the PHEV is unbeatable considering the size and space you get.

But your above stat is the trouble, the Diesel one gets about 60mpg (colleague has one) on a run, loaded. So like most EV/Hybrids it suits a certain type of user, for us it would have to be the second car.

[hairyben]

Giving it some thought myself as my typical day is 20-30 miles in london shyte traffic with occasional longer runs and particularly wanted something automatic which seems to be a dirty word in the van market.

Main setback for me is it's not in any way a van, it's a car with a couple of seats removed, and a small an compromised loadspace (coming from a vito with custom racking, could live with downsizing to say a caddy van at 3.2m load volume but outlander is only 1.6m.

Am wondering whether to sign a lease and deal with it or wait and see if the people who build these things will realise that 90%+ of essential vehicle movements in city centres are actually panel vans and maybe they should build one instead of ludicrous SUVs and hypercars and god know what else.

[RKDE]

I have just completed a drive from Scotland to Dorset, drove quite calmly also I did stop at a few ecotricity points. My finial MPG was 58.8

While I was in Dorset I managed to do almost all my driving on EV and the same while in Larbert.

The car can do good MPG but you need to charge every now and then else you will do 35 mpg which I still consider good for the size of the car.

Back home in the Midlands now so I won't be using petrol for a few months as I doubt I will go out of my range for a while