Nissan e-NV van
Discussion
Anyone got one?
Thinking of dumping the vito before it dumps me, looks like there's finally a serious electric panel van contender to consider.
Used mostly in and around london, rarely do more than 40-50 miles in a day so range shouldn't be an issue; anyone know what I can reasonably expect, stopstart traffic, fully laden, aircon full whack etc?
Whats acceleration like laden? Specifically thinking nip&tuck at junctions etc, I know trying to race it everywhere won't do wonders for the range, I just can't stand underpowered/gutless motors (probably went overboard slightly with the 200bhp v6 vito though heh)
Is the nissan build quality still there or will it start to fall apart from day 1 like mercedes do?
And why can I see two year leases from £150/month but 4-5 years twice that? how does that work? It's a van, it'll get scratched etc I don't want to deal with being penalised for wear and tear every two years...
Thinking of dumping the vito before it dumps me, looks like there's finally a serious electric panel van contender to consider.
Used mostly in and around london, rarely do more than 40-50 miles in a day so range shouldn't be an issue; anyone know what I can reasonably expect, stopstart traffic, fully laden, aircon full whack etc?
Whats acceleration like laden? Specifically thinking nip&tuck at junctions etc, I know trying to race it everywhere won't do wonders for the range, I just can't stand underpowered/gutless motors (probably went overboard slightly with the 200bhp v6 vito though heh)
Is the nissan build quality still there or will it start to fall apart from day 1 like mercedes do?
And why can I see two year leases from £150/month but 4-5 years twice that? how does that work? It's a van, it'll get scratched etc I don't want to deal with being penalised for wear and tear every two years...
Duration is more concern than range; I can live with 60 miles but the duration might be 5 hours and I like my air con.
It's not unusual to get home with the vans computer reading not many miles but 4-5 hours @ 8mph avg.
Inner London roads are designed to increase congestion/gridlock, ironically this may be what prevents me from buying an EV...
It's not unusual to get home with the vans computer reading not many miles but 4-5 hours @ 8mph avg.
Inner London roads are designed to increase congestion/gridlock, ironically this may be what prevents me from buying an EV...
Ah, well in that case I can probably help.
The eNV200 is basically a Leaf, however, for reasons unknown they fitted the "Gen1" heater not the "Gen2" heat pump.
Therefore, if you want to spend all day with air-con on, not a problem. You will use at the most 0.5kW running the air-con, which over the course of 6 hours uses 3kWH. That's roughly 12 miles of range. Since you are driving in city traffic your range is going to be 80 miles or more. Ironically, the other killer of range on electric cars is high speed - since when they are puttering around slowly they don't have an engine to keep ticking over.
The killer will be if you need the heater in winter. Whereas the new Gen2 heatpump only takes 1-3 miles off the range, the old Gen1 used to destroy it. It used about 2-3kW and even if you turned it off and on it used 1-2. Which over the course of six hours would be about half your range (40 miles).
So no use in the winter, if you like the heating up high. But if you are working (i.e. in your thick work clothes, not a skimpy frock like the missus) then you might not need quite so much heating ...
The eNV200 is basically a Leaf, however, for reasons unknown they fitted the "Gen1" heater not the "Gen2" heat pump.
Therefore, if you want to spend all day with air-con on, not a problem. You will use at the most 0.5kW running the air-con, which over the course of 6 hours uses 3kWH. That's roughly 12 miles of range. Since you are driving in city traffic your range is going to be 80 miles or more. Ironically, the other killer of range on electric cars is high speed - since when they are puttering around slowly they don't have an engine to keep ticking over.
The killer will be if you need the heater in winter. Whereas the new Gen2 heatpump only takes 1-3 miles off the range, the old Gen1 used to destroy it. It used about 2-3kW and even if you turned it off and on it used 1-2. Which over the course of six hours would be about half your range (40 miles).
So no use in the winter, if you like the heating up high. But if you are working (i.e. in your thick work clothes, not a skimpy frock like the missus) then you might not need quite so much heating ...
pboyall said:
Ah, well in that case I can probably help.
The eNV200 is basically a Leaf, however, for reasons unknown they fitted the "Gen1" heater not the "Gen2" heat pump.
Therefore, if you want to spend all day with air-con on, not a problem. You will use at the most 0.5kW running the air-con, which over the course of 6 hours uses 3kWH. That's roughly 12 miles of range. Since you are driving in city traffic your range is going to be 80 miles or more. Ironically, the other killer of range on electric cars is high speed - since when they are puttering around slowly they don't have an engine to keep ticking over.
The killer will be if you need the heater in winter. Whereas the new Gen2 heatpump only takes 1-3 miles off the range, the old Gen1 used to destroy it. It used about 2-3kW and even if you turned it off and on it used 1-2. Which over the course of six hours would be about half your range (40 miles).
So no use in the winter, if you like the heating up high. But if you are working (i.e. in your thick work clothes, not a skimpy frock like the missus) then you might not need quite so much heating ...
Thats useful info thanks. I guess they fitted the cheaper heater to keep the van cost as low as possible, vans tend to be pathetically specced with only a couple of manufacturers willing to let you spec one up beyond poverty. The eNV200 is basically a Leaf, however, for reasons unknown they fitted the "Gen1" heater not the "Gen2" heat pump.
Therefore, if you want to spend all day with air-con on, not a problem. You will use at the most 0.5kW running the air-con, which over the course of 6 hours uses 3kWH. That's roughly 12 miles of range. Since you are driving in city traffic your range is going to be 80 miles or more. Ironically, the other killer of range on electric cars is high speed - since when they are puttering around slowly they don't have an engine to keep ticking over.
The killer will be if you need the heater in winter. Whereas the new Gen2 heatpump only takes 1-3 miles off the range, the old Gen1 used to destroy it. It used about 2-3kW and even if you turned it off and on it used 1-2. Which over the course of six hours would be about half your range (40 miles).
So no use in the winter, if you like the heating up high. But if you are working (i.e. in your thick work clothes, not a skimpy frock like the missus) then you might not need quite so much heating ...
I notice the heated seats/wheel are available- are they a good substitute? Never bothered with them before. Makes the remote heating control make more sense too- you can heat/cool the van while it's still on mains.
Yeah, the heated seat works well, although you still get a cold nose :-)
Heated wheel is lovely in the winter but they fitted it with a timer so it cuts out after about 15 minutes, just when your hands are getting nice and warm. It cools down for ten minutes before warming up again.
I would say, if you are doing multi-drop, then the heated seat + wheel combo would actually be better than a regular heater, as you don't lose all the warm air each time you open the door.
If you're not multi-drop then it's worth pondering whether there is any availability of charging during the day, even jacking in to a 110V outlet for the day would give a useful top-up.
You can get an adapter to charge off commando sockets too :-)
Try these guys and say pete sent you, ask for Tony or Jeff : http://www.jsholmes.com/pages/about-us/meet-the-te...
Heated wheel is lovely in the winter but they fitted it with a timer so it cuts out after about 15 minutes, just when your hands are getting nice and warm. It cools down for ten minutes before warming up again.
I would say, if you are doing multi-drop, then the heated seat + wheel combo would actually be better than a regular heater, as you don't lose all the warm air each time you open the door.
If you're not multi-drop then it's worth pondering whether there is any availability of charging during the day, even jacking in to a 110V outlet for the day would give a useful top-up.
You can get an adapter to charge off commando sockets too :-)
Try these guys and say pete sent you, ask for Tony or Jeff : http://www.jsholmes.com/pages/about-us/meet-the-te...
I have one had it a month plumbing and heating I use it in Brighton and hove were there are a lot of 20 mph zones so it's fine for that max I see is 75 miles at start of day ,but as soon as you go faster ie duel carriage way it eats miles same with heater on you do need to learn to live with it get a five day test drive , saying that the savings are good I was using £300 in fuel and it cost £650 for a traders permit which is now half price for this van and no rfl so it's win win I have it on pop for two years at £200 then I will have another look at it ps strap your tools down
That dealer linked to above is a little far up the road, I managed a drive of one at the local dealer and it seems fine, dealer didn't seem too interested in trying to flog one to me though.
General information seems sparse, I'm thinking I could live with it evan if I have to stop at a 30 min charger occasionally so looking at whats available, seems to be at least 17 different types of public charging avaliable
General information seems sparse, I'm thinking I could live with it evan if I have to stop at a 30 min charger occasionally so looking at whats available, seems to be at least 17 different types of public charging avaliable
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