iPace-enomics

[Jimjimhim]

Discombobulate said:

Jimjimhim said:

I want to like them, I just can't get out of my head the problems that people have had with them.

Some people. That's the problem with forums, happy people don't post how good their car is, or not so often anyway. If you went solely by info on forums you wouldn't buy a Porsche, an Aston Martin, Alpine etc either.
For what it's worth, 2 years on, mine has been faultless and seems as well screwed together as Audis, BMWs and Porsches I have had.

Now that's the kiss of death.....

I know what you're saying about internet forums, but you do seem to hear of a lot of issues with these cars and people saying how happy they are that the car is going back. I guess you could get a warranty, but add that to fairly high insurance costs and you got an expensive car to run, even more expensive if you buy a high value one due to the awful depreciation. I do quite like them though....

[giggity]

Not sure they’re as bad as people make out. We’ve seen one cover well over 200k further up.

Waymo use them in the US too.

You have to make sure you have a good dealer as that seems to be the usual gripe.

Battery issues are with all cars that used LG packs (including the Taycan) but at least you know that’s covered by way of a recall too.

If you can get decent insurance quotes it makes sense - better than a leaf or Zoe - you can always enquire about a Jaguar warranty on top.

[TheDeuce]

giggity said:

Not sure they’re as bad as people make out. We’ve seen one cover well over 200k further up.

Waymo use them in the US too.

You have to make sure you have a good dealer as that seems to be the usual gripe.

Battery issues are with all cars that used LG packs (including the Taycan) but at least you know that’s covered by way of a recall too.

If you can get decent insurance quotes it makes sense - better than a leaf or Zoe - you can always enquire about a Jaguar warranty on top.

Also the added value of having just about the finest all round fun EV SUV there is. They're fast, agile, can off-road and are supremely comfortable and feel special.

This is PH, people have put of with seriously unreliable cars and justied it because the car deserves the love.. iPace is a loveable car!

JLR dealer network, not so much love for them...

[isleofthorns]

three years in with mine...

bar a few issues under warranty, has been a great car.

[Liam_92]

Aside from the battery issue (cell replaced under warranty, though I'll grant you it wasn't a quick process) ours has been faultless so far.

Quick scan on AT and you can pick up an SE, circa 40k miles for £20,000. With that you'd get 60,000 miles of battery warranty (or about 3/4 years dependant on age) which negates the significant underlying issues with it somewhat.

Did 100 miles on a family day out yesterday, honestly couldn't imagine doing it in anything else nowadays, it's such a wonderful thing to drive & place to sit and all for the joy of 3p a mile (on Octopus IOG) almost no matter how you drive *in warmer weather.

[Richtea1970]

They are great (until they go wrong).
But that’s more the fault of the dealer network rather than the car. Would I take a risk on one 4 or 5 years old without a warranty (not just the battery warranty, something that covers the whole car), no.
Hopefully we are not too far away from decent 3rd party garages being able to work on them, as at the moment the JLR dealers have a monopoly and they act like it too.

[EddieSteadyGo]

Does anyone know if JLR made any changes to the batteries on later cars which might have improved the reliability? I am wondering if something like a 2022 car might be more reliable than say the early 2019/20 cars.

[Richtea1970]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Does anyone know if JLR made any changes to the batteries on later cars which might have improved the reliability? I am wondering if something like a 2022 car might be more reliable than say the early 2019/20 cars.

They should be ‘more’ reliable but not necessarily because of the battery. A lot of the issues with the earlier models were ironed out by 2022, like leaky windscreens and 12v issues.

[blueacid]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Does anyone know if JLR made any changes to the batteries on later cars which might have improved the reliability? I am wondering if something like a 2022 car might be more reliable than say the early 2019/20 cars.

The traction battery problems were from the LG batteries used in a lot of cars around the same time.
However, what I wonder is: did JLR move to a new supplier, or did LG correct the faults in their batteries for later vehicles? I don't know if the newer iPaces are still vulnerable to the same failure mode.

[Discombobulate]

blueacid said:

The traction battery problems were from the LG batteries used in a lot of cars around the same time.
However, what I wonder is: did JLR move to a new supplier, or did LG correct the faults in their batteries for later vehicles? I don't know if the newer iPaces are still vulnerable to the same failure mode.

LG discovered and corrected a manufacturing issue so mostly older iPace's affected by recall.

[JNW1]

Discombobulate said:

blueacid said:

The traction battery problems were from the LG batteries used in a lot of cars around the same time.
However, what I wonder is: did JLR move to a new supplier, or did LG correct the faults in their batteries for later vehicles? I don't know if the newer iPaces are still vulnerable to the same failure mode.

LG discovered and corrected a manufacturing issue so mostly older iPace's affected by recall.

What do you consider an older iPace to be - up to and including the 2020 model year with the 2021 model year onwards likely to be less problematic?

[Discombobulate]

JNW1 said:

What do you consider an older iPace to be - up to and including the 2020 model year with the 2021 model year onwards likely to be less problematic?

18-20 mainly.