World's largest offshore windfarm starts generating
Discussion
Evanivitch said:
plfrench said:
We don’t give it away for free! It’s a large trading scheme - this is a route to significant income. I think it was 2021 where we made a net income when France were having generation issues. With the new interconnect to Germany and their well documented reliance on expensive coal generation we could be very well placed to raise a chunk of revenue when we have spare.
I don’t understand the ins and outs of the pricing mechanism but I think we choose how much we sell / buy at any one time.
I know we don't give it away, I guess my question is are we at risk of facing the same "energy security " fallacy as North Sea oil and gas.I don’t understand the ins and outs of the pricing mechanism but I think we choose how much we sell / buy at any one time.
That's an extreme example. In real terms it means that in trade deals with countries that we frequently rely on for grid support or fuel today, we will have a far stronger bargaining position in the future.
Other countries can also get closer to their own net zero energy targets by buying our excess renewable energy.
Energy is big money.
I'm pleased to see a thread on PH that appreciates the positive position the U.K. finds itself in, opposed to the endless lamenting that we don't have a highly polluting, uncompetitive, low end, manufacturing base to cripple us economically. The other incredibly important aspect of energy self sufficiency is that it is not London centric and also drives innovation outside of London.
The Achilles Heel however is Scotland and how much of that energy is linked to an element that will seek to use it for personal gain against the rest of the U.K. Plus, it being a lever that other nations will try and use for competitive advantage.
The Achilles Heel however is Scotland and how much of that energy is linked to an element that will seek to use it for personal gain against the rest of the U.K. Plus, it being a lever that other nations will try and use for competitive advantage.
Also in the news today: Orsted announced the Final Investment Decision for Hornsea 3, which will top Dogger Bank A/B with 2.9 GW.
https://orsted.co.uk/media/newsroom/news/2023/12/o...
It joins Moray West as the second Allocation Round 4 project to go to FID and the first since Vattenfall halted Norfolk Boreas. Offshore construction at Moray West is already well underway with the first Offshore Substation Platform successfully installed this week.
https://www.moraywest.com/news
Onshore construction is also underway at another AR4 project, East Anglia 3, with FID for offshore construction expected next year.
EU member states have also committed to 111 GW offshore energy by 2030 this week.
https://www.offshorewind.biz/2023/12/19/breaking-e...
Finally this is an interesting piece of analysis showing that even on the day with the lowest % of renewable energy across Europe as a whole in 2023, renewable energy was still contributing a third of the electricity generated.
https://www.enappsys.com/renewables-and-emissions-...
https://orsted.co.uk/media/newsroom/news/2023/12/o...
It joins Moray West as the second Allocation Round 4 project to go to FID and the first since Vattenfall halted Norfolk Boreas. Offshore construction at Moray West is already well underway with the first Offshore Substation Platform successfully installed this week.
https://www.moraywest.com/news
Onshore construction is also underway at another AR4 project, East Anglia 3, with FID for offshore construction expected next year.
EU member states have also committed to 111 GW offshore energy by 2030 this week.
https://www.offshorewind.biz/2023/12/19/breaking-e...
Finally this is an interesting piece of analysis showing that even on the day with the lowest % of renewable energy across Europe as a whole in 2023, renewable energy was still contributing a third of the electricity generated.
https://www.enappsys.com/renewables-and-emissions-...
Hill92 said:
Also in the news today: Orsted announced the Final Investment Decision for Hornsea 3, which will top Dogger Bank A/B with 2.9 GW.
https://orsted.co.uk/media/newsroom/news/2023/12/o...
It joins Moray West as the second Allocation Round 4 project to go to FID and the first since Vattenfall halted Norfolk Boreas. Offshore construction at Moray West is already well underway with the first Offshore Substation Platform successfully installed this week.
https://www.moraywest.com/news
Onshore construction is also underway at another AR4 project, East Anglia 3, with FID for offshore construction expected next year.
EU member states have also committed to 111 GW offshore energy by 2030 this week.
https://www.offshorewind.biz/2023/12/19/breaking-e...
Finally this is an interesting piece of analysis showing that even on the day with the lowest % of renewable energy across Europe as a whole in 2023, renewable energy was still contributing a third of the electricity generated.
https://www.enappsys.com/renewables-and-emissions-...
Some footnotes,https://orsted.co.uk/media/newsroom/news/2023/12/o...
It joins Moray West as the second Allocation Round 4 project to go to FID and the first since Vattenfall halted Norfolk Boreas. Offshore construction at Moray West is already well underway with the first Offshore Substation Platform successfully installed this week.
https://www.moraywest.com/news
Onshore construction is also underway at another AR4 project, East Anglia 3, with FID for offshore construction expected next year.
EU member states have also committed to 111 GW offshore energy by 2030 this week.
https://www.offshorewind.biz/2023/12/19/breaking-e...
Finally this is an interesting piece of analysis showing that even on the day with the lowest % of renewable energy across Europe as a whole in 2023, renewable energy was still contributing a third of the electricity generated.
https://www.enappsys.com/renewables-and-emissions-...
Doggerbank A, B and C are signed off and will be 3.6GW. Remaining the largest.
Doggerbank D is warming up and I believe will take it to 5.2GW
(Downside: construction / building is painful currently)
Also good news today is Vattenfall declaring the turbine supplier for the huge Norfolk projects (Vestas, having been rolled by SGRE Easter this year)
Edited by PushedDover on Thursday 21st December 11:50
Essarell said:
the Uk currently @ 78% of installed capacity, Germany slightly better with the Netherlands better still, these have to be perfect conditions for UK wind, why is the percentage not better?
Because of curtailment. I don't have live numbers but willing to bet we can't get all that power South fast enough at this moment. pacenotes said:
Sometimes wind can be too fast resulting in gearing down or stopping the windmill in case it runs away with itself.
Windmills grind corn.Wind Turbines generate energy.
As above, some issues with getting the wind from the generation areas to a congested grid, and also considering a lot of the earlier Power generating turbines would only work to a maximum windspeed before shutting down / stalling, to prevent damage. This is no longer the case with newer hardware.
(onshore / Scotland is prime for this, coupled with the grid congestion)
tamore said:
is that weather related delays? not sure i'd fancy trying to assemble one of those in this weather.
This time of year does always impact construction of projects (typical wind limits for lifting are circa 16m/s, Techs dont go in / up a tower above 20m/s) but also delays due to the newness / (unknowns) of the GE team and Turbine..... IMHO
tamore said:
must be hard getting the nails hammered in straight up a ladder when it's windy 
where's fred dibnah when you need him? he'd have had it finished by now and downed a few pints in the process.
See 7mins in for example,: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EF8FAux5Nc&ab...where's fred dibnah when you need him? he'd have had it finished by now and downed a few pints in the process.
on a windy day with a blade area that is more than 5 football pitches.
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