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plfrench said:
audi321 said:
Right, I've been on the OVO tariff for a few days now and it's just as plfrench said, they seem to charge me 7p for charging at anytime they think it's 'green' to charge! 26p for normal household usage.
For example I have the car on charge now and it says 'Smart' charging (has done since i plugged in at 8pm last night) and it's charged the whole night and morning at 7p.
I have a feeling it's a bug, so until they fix it I'll be taking full advantage! There is a possibility that because it's ridiculously windy, they have a surplus at the moment, so it's cheap today, but I'll monitor it and report back.
I have 2 EVs, a Tesla MS and a Cupra Born. The Tesla was simple to set up (just put my user credentials in) but the Cupra was a bugger (turn things on in the car in menus that I didn't even know existed, a 'S-PIN' which I couldn't remember setting up, etc etc) but got there in the end.
Good stuff. Our Born wasn't a problem to set up, not sure what happened there! For example I have the car on charge now and it says 'Smart' charging (has done since i plugged in at 8pm last night) and it's charged the whole night and morning at 7p.
I have a feeling it's a bug, so until they fix it I'll be taking full advantage! There is a possibility that because it's ridiculously windy, they have a surplus at the moment, so it's cheap today, but I'll monitor it and report back.
I have 2 EVs, a Tesla MS and a Cupra Born. The Tesla was simple to set up (just put my user credentials in) but the Cupra was a bugger (turn things on in the car in menus that I didn't even know existed, a 'S-PIN' which I couldn't remember setting up, etc etc) but got there in the end.
Have you opted into their 'Power Move' scheme? This quarter they're giving an additional £15 credit per month for using less than 13.5% of your total weekday energy consumption between the hours of 4pm-7pm. With Anytime left to do its thing and a moderate amount of EV charging you're pretty much guaranteed to get this. I've managed it easily for Sep, Oct and Nov so far with Dec sitting at about 6.5% so far.
Bit of a strange question, but hopefully someone will be able to steer me in the right direction....
I've a Q4 e-tron 55 Quattro Sportback arriving mid January (it's at customs in Germany) that I managed to grab as a cancelled order to coincide with my solar and battery install. The installer is proposing to fit a GivEnergy charger to match the inverter and batteries and stay in the same ecosystem.
As the 55 is yet to appear on the IOG criteria for connection, and the charger isn't directly supported yet to allow control of charging, would anyone with experience be able to tell me if the API is the same in all Audi cars (of the same software update), and whether I could assign it as a 50, which is on the supported list. Or does the assignment work entirely different to this understanding?
I guess I could stick an OHME in there instead, but I can see why the installer wishes me to go fully GE.
I've a Q4 e-tron 55 Quattro Sportback arriving mid January (it's at customs in Germany) that I managed to grab as a cancelled order to coincide with my solar and battery install. The installer is proposing to fit a GivEnergy charger to match the inverter and batteries and stay in the same ecosystem.
As the 55 is yet to appear on the IOG criteria for connection, and the charger isn't directly supported yet to allow control of charging, would anyone with experience be able to tell me if the API is the same in all Audi cars (of the same software update), and whether I could assign it as a 50, which is on the supported list. Or does the assignment work entirely different to this understanding?
I guess I could stick an OHME in there instead, but I can see why the installer wishes me to go fully GE.
Mikebentley said:
I think I understand it now! As I’m shoving 40+ kw daily into the EV on Anytime overnight my general usage is less than 13.5% of my total per day for the period between 16:00 and 19:00hrs. Therefore pretty much guaranteed the £15 bonus.
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dave01253 said:
I'm on Octopus go. 9p per unit 0030-0430, no intelligent charger required.
We’ve just had an email to say it’s jumping in price from 9p to over 14p.We have been on the intelligent tariff before the Go tariff but that caused terrible problems with charging so we had to disconnect the vehicle from the Octopus app which meant we had to swap to the Go tariff.
Now in the process of swapping to EDF EV tariff which is 8p per unit overnight.
Edited by Nick928 on Monday 25th December 21:45
plfrench said:
Mikebentley said:
I think I understand it now! As I’m shoving 40+ kw daily into the EV on Anytime overnight my general usage is less than 13.5% of my total per day for the period between 16:00 and 19:00hrs. Therefore pretty much guaranteed the £15 bonus.
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Nick928 said:
We’ve just had an email to say it’s jumping in price from 9p to over 14p.
We have been on the intelligent tariff before the Go tariff but that caused terrible problems with charging so we had to disconnect the vehicle from the Octopus app which meant we had to swap to the Go tariff.
Now in the process of swapping to EDF EV tariff which is 8p per unit overnight.
An e-mai on Christmas Day from Octopus saying they’re putting the prices up, thats a bit Scrooge isn’t it? Can you screen shot the mail, I'm with Octopus Go and haven’t been told the prices are going up.We have been on the intelligent tariff before the Go tariff but that caused terrible problems with charging so we had to disconnect the vehicle from the Octopus app which meant we had to swap to the Go tariff.
Now in the process of swapping to EDF EV tariff which is 8p per unit overnight.
Edited by Nick928 on Monday 25th December 21:45
Nick928 said:
We’ve just had an email to say it’s jumping in price from 9p to over 14p.
We have been on the intelligent tariff before the Go tariff but that caused terrible problems with charging so we had to disconnect the vehicle from the Octopus app which meant we had to swap to the Go tariff.
Now in the process of swapping to EDF EV tariff which is 8p per unit overnight.
When did they say it was jumping to 14p? It’s still 9p at the moment, and I’ve had no notification of a price rise despite moving to Go last week.We have been on the intelligent tariff before the Go tariff but that caused terrible problems with charging so we had to disconnect the vehicle from the Octopus app which meant we had to swap to the Go tariff.
Now in the process of swapping to EDF EV tariff which is 8p per unit overnight.
Edited by Nick928 on Monday 25th December 21:45
The last month on Intelligent Octopus, no battery/solar, one EV, two WFH adults, two kids...
Not too bad. I could generally average a fractionally lower p/kWh on Agile, but the reliability of knowing I'll be able to charge the car at 7.5p any night is nice.
Last month I could usually get IO to give me the 7.5p rate up to 8:30 most weekdays and often later into the day at weekends.
Not too bad. I could generally average a fractionally lower p/kWh on Agile, but the reliability of knowing I'll be able to charge the car at 7.5p any night is nice.
Last month I could usually get IO to give me the 7.5p rate up to 8:30 most weekdays and often later into the day at weekends.
Whilst Ovo provides the cheapest EV charging rate of 7p/kwh. The fact that Octopus Intelligent gives you charging and whole house usage at 7.5p/kwh during the 23.30-05:30 window means that if you can switch some of your energy intensive appliances like dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, immersion heater etc to use the cheap rate then it will work out cheaper overall unless you are an edge case using lots of electric for EV charging and very little for house usage.
recalluk said:
At the risk of being a bit of a IO fanboy across threads (even though I am) this is what I hit with load shifting into off peak slots for IO.
No Solar or battery but we are a two EV house.
Yep not difficult even without battery and/or solar to switch very large amounts of usage from peak to cheap rate period from 23.30 to 05:30. I have run the calculations for various scenarios with Ev usage and assuming varying degrees of switching of usage to the 23.30-05:30 period and it is only in a few number of edge cases with very high EV usage which would be bordering on impractical that Ovo works out cheaper than Octopus Intelligent Go. No Solar or battery but we are a two EV house.
For me, I only have a 3kw charger, so to only be able to charge between 12-5am is a non starter (I'd only get about 35 miles added!).
Ovo seems to allow cheap charging at ANYTIME during the day (admittedly when they say it's green - which is most of the time - I assume because it's winter and windy a lot).
For example, I have just had my car charging for 24 hours (unusual for me) and it's done it ALL at 7p kwh.
I have had it stop charging once when it said it wasn't green, but it automatically started again a few hours later when it went green again.
Can't fault Ovo to be honest.
Ovo seems to allow cheap charging at ANYTIME during the day (admittedly when they say it's green - which is most of the time - I assume because it's winter and windy a lot).
For example, I have just had my car charging for 24 hours (unusual for me) and it's done it ALL at 7p kwh.
I have had it stop charging once when it said it wasn't green, but it automatically started again a few hours later when it went green again.
Can't fault Ovo to be honest.
I’m on Octopus Intelligent Go due to recently getting an EV. I’m due to have a 7kw charger fitted next month but for the last 2 months it’s been on a 13amp/3kw wall plug.
When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
T_S_M said:
I’m on Octopus Intelligent Go due to recently getting an EV. I’m due to have a 7kw charger fitted next month but for the last 2 months it’s been on a 13amp/3kw wall plug.
When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
I've moved over to OI a couple of weeks ago, and currently using a "granny" charger set up. I can get 25% of a full charge overnight in the cheap hours slot, and I've also requested a bit more than that on a couple of occasions and it's always given me extra "cheap" hours to help achieve that. It was quite happy to run to 10am on Sunday morning. Given our car use, I haven't had to request a significantly greater charge yet (tbh, I'm not sure how much you can push your luck..), but there's always the option to "bump start" the charging process immediately and I'm assuming it will then schedule cheaper hours if it can. When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
T_S_M said:
I’m on Octopus Intelligent Go due to recently getting an EV. I’m due to have a 7kw charger fitted next month but for the last 2 months it’s been on a 13amp/3kw wall plug.
When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
AFAIK the only time you get charged full whack is if you press 'Urgent Charge'. As someone said above, I don't know if there's a bug, because I believe it's meant to charge you to your 'minimum' charge at full rate (but it doesn't).When I plug it in and set the target charge and time through the app, due to the length of time to charge it, it immediately starts charging. Will this be at the rate of 7.5p or will that only change once it gets to 12.30am?
If I adjust the charge target it then sets the schedule, but if I plug in at 6pm with 10% charge, it’ll start charging immediately. The app says it may charge outside of the ‘window’ as well if the demand on the grid is low.
If that makes sense?
audi321 said:
AFAIK the only time you get charged full whack is if you press 'Urgent Charge'. As someone said above, I don't know if there's a bug, because I believe it's meant to charge you to your 'minimum' charge at full rate (but it doesn't).
Even better then! I was just worried I was putting it on charge from 6pm till 8am and getting charged the full rate until the cheap rate window during the night.
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