My experience of a 2024 Merc EQA350 as a loan car
Discussion
TheDeuce said:
You'd be a bit crazy to buy either new tbh. Lease new, buy used. Leasing is almost always cheaper overall for higher price tag EV's.
My M50 is around £650 a month, 6 months down - so £26,650 for it's first three years of life. I bet that's less than they will lose if bought for ~£76k over the same time. At a glance they look to have lost about £30k on AT, but hard to tell as they're all around 15k miles, mine will go back with 36k at three years. I can't imagine it'll have lost less than 45% of it's rrp at that point.
£25k in 1 year and 11k miles.My M50 is around £650 a month, 6 months down - so £26,650 for it's first three years of life. I bet that's less than they will lose if bought for ~£76k over the same time. At a glance they look to have lost about £30k on AT, but hard to tell as they're all around 15k miles, mine will go back with 36k at three years. I can't imagine it'll have lost less than 45% of it's rrp at that point.
Once they start hitting the used market in greater numbers as they come off lease at 3 years old it'll be a bloodbath.
cerb4.5lee said:
I was very pleasantly surprised by it!
Specs were 0 to 60 in 6 seconds(it is 4wd), and 288bhp/384Ib/ft/2035kg.
It had around 200 miles on the range when I got in it, and I drove about 60 miles in it. It was still showing around a 150 miles left on the range when I handed it back.
At first the braking regeneration got on my nerves a bit, but I did get used to it though. One pedal driving(mostly) was quite novel too I thought. I did say to my missus that it was a shame that it weighs so much though, because with less weight I reckon that it would feel pretty quick to be honest.
The initial pick up when I floored it wasn't as spectacular as I thought it would be, especially because a lot of owners of EVs do say that it is immediate, but this wasn't anyway. Plus it never felt all that quick, however I am used to a F82 M4 as a daily though, plus the Merc GLE400d that we have also has far more torque in comparison to the EQA(it is heavier though).
Having a loan car that I didn't have to replace the fuel in felt good, and if you're only doing local runs, then I can definitely see why many love EVs for sure. It opened my eyes in a positive way, and that surprised me really, because I'm usually very quick to dismiss electric in fairness.
I just wanted to share some positivity about electric for a change really, and I felt like the car deserved it.
Was it in Sport mode or similar Lee? I'm surprised it didn't feel notably more sprightly than the GLE400d at least! EV power delivery and absolute performance can be quite significantly different across the various driving modes! This might explain the steering feeling very light too - maybe it defaults to Comfort mode on start up?Specs were 0 to 60 in 6 seconds(it is 4wd), and 288bhp/384Ib/ft/2035kg.
It had around 200 miles on the range when I got in it, and I drove about 60 miles in it. It was still showing around a 150 miles left on the range when I handed it back.
At first the braking regeneration got on my nerves a bit, but I did get used to it though. One pedal driving(mostly) was quite novel too I thought. I did say to my missus that it was a shame that it weighs so much though, because with less weight I reckon that it would feel pretty quick to be honest.
The initial pick up when I floored it wasn't as spectacular as I thought it would be, especially because a lot of owners of EVs do say that it is immediate, but this wasn't anyway. Plus it never felt all that quick, however I am used to a F82 M4 as a daily though, plus the Merc GLE400d that we have also has far more torque in comparison to the EQA(it is heavier though).
Having a loan car that I didn't have to replace the fuel in felt good, and if you're only doing local runs, then I can definitely see why many love EVs for sure. It opened my eyes in a positive way, and that surprised me really, because I'm usually very quick to dismiss electric in fairness.
I just wanted to share some positivity about electric for a change really, and I felt like the car deserved it.
plfrench said:
Was it in Sport mode or similar Lee? I'm surprised it didn't feel notably more sprightly than the GLE400d at least! EV power delivery and absolute performance can be quite significantly different across the various driving modes! This might explain the steering feeling very light too - maybe it defaults to Comfort mode on start up?
I didn't think about what mode it was in to be honest, but you're right now I think about it and it will default to comfort I think, and there was a dynamic button on the centre console, and that would've sharpened things up as you say. ![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
I'm so used to just leaving the GLE400d in comfort mode(I do use sport very occasionally though in it), so I didn't think about changing it. I wished I had now in fairness!
I never leave the M4 in its most docile settings for example in comparison.
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TheDeuce said:
You'd be a bit crazy to buy either new tbh. Lease new, buy used. Leasing is almost always cheaper overall for higher price tag EV's.
My M50 is around £650 a month, 6 months down - so £26,650 for it's first three years of life. I bet that's less than they will lose if bought for ~£76k over the same time. At a glance they look to have lost about £30k on AT, but hard to tell as they're all around 15k miles, mine will go back with 36k at three years. I can't imagine it'll have lost less than 45% of it's rrp at that point.
£25k in 1 year and 11k miles.My M50 is around £650 a month, 6 months down - so £26,650 for it's first three years of life. I bet that's less than they will lose if bought for ~£76k over the same time. At a glance they look to have lost about £30k on AT, but hard to tell as they're all around 15k miles, mine will go back with 36k at three years. I can't imagine it'll have lost less than 45% of it's rrp at that point.
Once they start hitting the used market in greater numbers as they come off lease at 3 years old it'll be a bloodbath.
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The headline price of all the luxury/premium EV's is pie in the sky, for the sake of hoovering up their share of the incentive ££ along with the people that save money taking them as company cars. People are quick to point the finger at Taycan's etc as a sign of EV's depreciating rapidly, which in many cases is true, but it misses the point as to why that's happenning and what it really means for consumers.
In short, if you buy a new premium brand EV, you're a bit of a dumb dumb. Lease one, the whole market is setup to shift stock via leasing, don't fight it.
And it is indeed an exciting time for used car buyers who can afford reasonable monthlies, "what do you want sir? 400hp? 600hp? Luxury SUV sir? Fancy a Porsche sir?"
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Unlike the OP, I had an unpleasant experience with a Mercedes EV SUV this past week. Flying into Chicago for my son's graduation, we arrived at about 1am in the morning. I had reserved a Toyota Camry at Budget rent-a-car, but when I showed up to the counter, the attendant announced to me that I was to receive the "manager's surprise," a Mercedes EV. Having not driven an EV before, I thought, "Why not?" With a full charge, we headed to our hotel, a distance of about 11.5 miles from O'Hare Airport. At 1am there wasn't much traffic but I noticed when we pulled into the hotel parking, the display showed there was 108 miles left on the charge, which would make the range under 120 miles. I thought to myself that if I was taking this on a vacation with my family, I'd have to be stopping to recharge in less than 2 hours of driving. The car was a new Mercedes EQB 300. Over the next couple of days we would drive the car to breakfast and dinner, only a few miles in any direction from our hotel, maybe 30-40 miles maximum total over Thursday and Friday. Saturday morning, we go to the car and the range say 18 miles left and a warning on the dash saying that we were in the "Reserve." We googled EV quick charging stations in the area and headed to the first one. Got there and it was out of order. Went to the next, hooked it up half a dozen times, payment authorization approved, but no charging. This went on 6 times to where we were down to 6 miles on the range. We pulled into a hospital that had a regular not quick charger because I was afraid we wouldn't even make it back to the hotel. At least, this time, it took the charge, and after an hour of sitting there, slow charging, we had increased the range to 18 miles so that we could get back to the hotel. We tried four other quick charge stations along the way, none of which worked. And each time we did this including at the hospital, we had to pay for parking to enter. So, I paid for parking 6 times. Since we were going home on Sunday and were required to return the car with a full charge, I still had to find a charging station. We finally found a quick charge station in a shopping center, and were able to get it to work and after an hour we had a 100% charge. Now the charging station failures are not Mercedes' fault, but a less than 120 mile range is their responsibility. Plus the braking and the throttle response is unnerving. The controls for the A/C, defrost, etc. are hidden on tiny buttons under the dash with the symbols so small as to be unintelligible. You just have to keep pressing all of them until you get what you want. Never could figure out how to get the radio on, but mysteriously it blared on by itself on our way back to the airport. Where the handle would normally be to open the door is where the seat adjustment levers were located with the door handle in an uncomfortable place much lower in the door. Honestly, it was a valuable lesson. First, I am shocked that Mercedes is capable of building such a poorly designed car. Secondly, I have since heard of many such horror stories of finding charging stations that actually function. Thirdly, I probably have about ten years (if I live that long) of driving left in me (I'm 71), and I can assure you, I will never buy nor rent an electric vehicle ever again. It's just too much effort and nervousness to do so.
One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
tberg said:
Unlike the OP, I had an unpleasant experience with a Mercedes EV SUV this past week. Flying into Chicago for my son's graduation, we arrived at about 1am in the morning. I had reserved a Toyota Camry at Budget rent-a-car, but when I showed up to the counter, the attendant announced to me that I was to receive the "manager's surprise," a Mercedes EV. Having not driven an EV before, I thought, "Why not?" With a full charge, we headed to our hotel, a distance of about 11.5 miles from O'Hare Airport. At 1am there wasn't much traffic but I noticed when we pulled into the hotel parking, the display showed there was 108 miles left on the charge, which would make the range under 120 miles. I thought to myself that if I was taking this on a vacation with my family, I'd have to be stopping to recharge in less than 2 hours of driving. The car was a new Mercedes EQB 300. Over the next couple of days we would drive the car to breakfast and dinner, only a few miles in any direction from our hotel, maybe 30-40 miles maximum total over Thursday and Friday. Saturday morning, we go to the car and the range say 18 miles left and a warning on the dash saying that we were in the "Reserve." We googled EV quick charging stations in the area and headed to the first one. Got there and it was out of order. Went to the next, hooked it up half a dozen times, payment authorization approved, but no charging. This went on 6 times to where we were down to 6 miles on the range. We pulled into a hospital that had a regular not quick charger because I was afraid we wouldn't even make it back to the hotel. At least, this time, it took the charge, and after an hour of sitting there, slow charging, we had increased the range to 18 miles so that we could get back to the hotel. We tried four other quick charge stations along the way, none of which worked. And each time we did this including at the hospital, we had to pay for parking to enter. So, I paid for parking 6 times. Since we were going home on Sunday and were required to return the car with a full charge, I still had to find a charging station. We finally found a quick charge station in a shopping center, and were able to get it to work and after an hour we had a 100% charge. Now the charging station failures are not Mercedes' fault, but a less than 120 mile range is their responsibility. Plus the braking and the throttle response is unnerving. The controls for the A/C, defrost, etc. are hidden on tiny buttons under the dash with the symbols so small as to be unintelligible. You just have to keep pressing all of them until you get what you want. Never could figure out how to get the radio on, but mysteriously it blared on by itself on our way back to the airport. Where the handle would normally be to open the door is where the seat adjustment levers were located with the door handle in an uncomfortable place much lower in the door. Honestly, it was a valuable lesson. First, I am shocked that Mercedes is capable of building such a poorly designed car. Secondly, I have since heard of many such horror stories of finding charging stations that actually function. Thirdly, I probably have about ten years (if I live that long) of driving left in me (I'm 71), and I can assure you, I will never buy nor rent an electric vehicle ever again. It's just too much effort and nervousness to do so.
One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
You'll set Lee right back now, just as he was giving EV more of a chance One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
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tberg said:
Unlike the OP, I had an unpleasant experience with a Mercedes EV SUV this past week. Flying into Chicago for my son's graduation, we arrived at about 1am in the morning. I had reserved a Toyota Camry at Budget rent-a-car, but when I showed up to the counter, the attendant announced to me that I was to receive the "manager's surprise," a Mercedes EV. Having not driven an EV before, I thought, "Why not?" With a full charge, we headed to our hotel, a distance of about 11.5 miles from O'Hare Airport. At 1am there wasn't much traffic but I noticed when we pulled into the hotel parking, the display showed there was 108 miles left on the charge, which would make the range under 120 miles. I thought to myself that if I was taking this on a vacation with my family, I'd have to be stopping to recharge in less than 2 hours of driving. The car was a new Mercedes EQB 300. Over the next couple of days we would drive the car to breakfast and dinner, only a few miles in any direction from our hotel, maybe 30-40 miles maximum total over Thursday and Friday. Saturday morning, we go to the car and the range say 18 miles left and a warning on the dash saying that we were in the "Reserve." We googled EV quick charging stations in the area and headed to the first one. Got there and it was out of order. Went to the next, hooked it up half a dozen times, payment authorization approved, but no charging. This went on 6 times to where we were down to 6 miles on the range. We pulled into a hospital that had a regular not quick charger because I was afraid we wouldn't even make it back to the hotel. At least, this time, it took the charge, and after an hour of sitting there, slow charging, we had increased the range to 18 miles so that we could get back to the hotel. We tried four other quick charge stations along the way, none of which worked. And each time we did this including at the hospital, we had to pay for parking to enter. So, I paid for parking 6 times. Since we were going home on Sunday and were required to return the car with a full charge, I still had to find a charging station. We finally found a quick charge station in a shopping center, and were able to get it to work and after an hour we had a 100% charge. Now the charging station failures are not Mercedes' fault, but a less than 120 mile range is their responsibility. Plus the braking and the throttle response is unnerving. The controls for the A/C, defrost, etc. are hidden on tiny buttons under the dash with the symbols so small as to be unintelligible. You just have to keep pressing all of them until you get what you want. Never could figure out how to get the radio on, but mysteriously it blared on by itself on our way back to the airport. Where the handle would normally be to open the door is where the seat adjustment levers were located with the door handle in an uncomfortable place much lower in the door. Honestly, it was a valuable lesson. First, I am shocked that Mercedes is capable of building such a poorly designed car. Secondly, I have since heard of many such horror stories of finding charging stations that actually function. Thirdly, I probably have about ten years (if I live that long) of driving left in me (I'm 71), and I can assure you, I will never buy nor rent an electric vehicle ever again. It's just too much effort and nervousness to do so.
One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
Still, better than the Camry One thing I'm puzzled about is why petrol stations don't have chargers on their lots so that people driving EVs around can easily find spots to charge. It just seems like a natural place to find them.
As for the driving dynamics of the Mercedes, it was just a boring, joyless means of transportation, nothing extraordinary and certainly not as good as our 8 year old, 100,000 mile Lincoln MKX SUV. We got home yesterday, and I was never so happy driving a car as when I got into my XKR and went to run errands.
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Tbh it's not a great EV and it sounds like something was up with the rate at which it lost range. Doubtless all those chargers weren't 'broken', they can't have been, Chicago has a strong EV scene. I'm sure had someone used to EV been with you, it wouldn't have been any bother at all - it could even have been down to a setting on the car refusing charge.
I think it's very poor to give someone a 'surprise' EV. I'm glad you were positive about the opportunity to try something new and try and learn, but just handing over the keys to someone with no EV experience isn't really good enough.
plfrench said:
You'll set Lee right back now, just as he was giving EV more of a chance ![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
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TheDeuce said:
I think it's very poor to give someone a 'surprise' EV. I'm glad you were positive about the opportunity to try something new and try and learn, but just handing over the keys to someone with no EV experience isn't really good enough.
I've been given 3 EVs now from Merc as loan cars when the GLE400d has gone in for a service(it has been serviced 4 times now and it is only just over 2 years old because of the mileage we do). I'm a bit surprised to get an EV when I'm taking an ICE in for a service really(I don't ask for an EV either). I think that they're trying their best to convert me though perhaps?!
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I may not be EV experienced, but I'm capable of plugging a nozzle into a port and running my credit card into a card slot. The fact that I was able to get two of them to work is testament to that fact. It's just such a bothersome effort that with as much driving as I do, if I had to go through this every other day, I'd get a horse instead.
cerb4.5lee said:
I've been given 3 EVs now from Merc as loan cars when the GLE400d has gone in for a service(it has been serviced 4 times now and it is only just over 2 years old because of the mileage we do). I'm a bit surprised to get an EV when I'm taking an ICE in for a service really(I don't ask for an EV either).
I think that they're trying their best to convert me though perhaps?!![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
We all are mate I think that they're trying their best to convert me though perhaps?!
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tberg said:
I may not be EV experienced, but I'm capable of plugging a nozzle into a port and running my credit card into a card slot. The fact that I was able to get two of them to work is testament to that fact. It's just such a bothersome effort that with as much driving as I do, if I had to go through this every other day, I'd get a horse instead.
That's the point though, it's bizarre how many chargers you found that wouldn't work for some reason. I honestly haven't had an issue for well over a year.TheDeuce said:
tberg said:
I may not be EV experienced, but I'm capable of plugging a nozzle into a port and running my credit card into a card slot. The fact that I was able to get two of them to work is testament to that fact. It's just such a bothersome effort that with as much driving as I do, if I had to go through this every other day, I'd get a horse instead.
That's the point though, it's bizarre how many chargers you found that wouldn't work for some reason. I honestly haven't had an issue for well over a year.dvs_dave said:
TheDeuce said:
tberg said:
I may not be EV experienced, but I'm capable of plugging a nozzle into a port and running my credit card into a card slot. The fact that I was able to get two of them to work is testament to that fact. It's just such a bothersome effort that with as much driving as I do, if I had to go through this every other day, I'd get a horse instead.
That's the point though, it's bizarre how many chargers you found that wouldn't work for some reason. I honestly haven't had an issue for well over a year.So, I said it first
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've been given 3 EVs now from Merc as loan cars when the GLE400d has gone in for a service(it has been serviced 4 times now and it is only just over 2 years old because of the mileage we do). I'm a bit surprised to get an EV when I'm taking an ICE in for a service really(I don't ask for an EV either).
I think that they're trying their best to convert me though perhaps?!![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
As another poster noted, have a cheeky nip down to a Porsche dealer and get them to lend you one for an extended test drive...a GTS or Turbo should do really.I think that they're trying their best to convert me though perhaps?!
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If you liked the Merc, I suspect these will surprise you again.
Murph7355 said:
As another poster noted, have a cheeky nip down to a Porsche dealer and get them to lend you one for an extended test drive...a GTS or Turbo should do really.
If you liked the Merc, I suspect these will surprise you again.
Definitely should I had zero interest in the Taycan until they lent me a 4s cross Turismo, now have a base 4 and it’s more than adequate for my needs. Rides better than any car I’ve ever driven (I include old 7 series, Range Rover and Jag XJ6’s) yet handles like a Porsche. If you liked the Merc, I suspect these will surprise you again.
Weight has its advantages!
cerb4.5lee said:
I was very pleasantly surprised by it!
Specs were 0 to 60 in 6 seconds(it is 4wd), and 288bhp/384Ib/ft/2035kg.
It had around 200 miles on the range when I got in it, and I drove about 60 miles in it. It was still showing around a 150 miles left on the range when I handed it back.
At first the braking regeneration got on my nerves a bit, but I did get used to it though. One pedal driving(mostly) was quite novel too I thought. I did say to my missus that it was a shame that it weighs so much though, because with less weight I reckon that it would feel pretty quick to be honest.
The initial pick up when I floored it wasn't as spectacular as I thought it would be, especially because a lot of owners of EVs do say that it is immediate, but this wasn't anyway. Plus it never felt all that quick, however I am used to a F82 M4 as a daily though, plus the Merc GLE400d that we have also has far more torque in comparison to the EQA(it is heavier though).
Having a loan car that I didn't have to replace the fuel in felt good, and if you're only doing local runs, then I can definitely see why many love EVs for sure. It opened my eyes in a positive way, and that surprised me really, because I'm usually very quick to dismiss electric in fairness.
I just wanted to share some positivity about electric for a change really, and I felt like the car deserved it.
You feeling ok hun?Specs were 0 to 60 in 6 seconds(it is 4wd), and 288bhp/384Ib/ft/2035kg.
It had around 200 miles on the range when I got in it, and I drove about 60 miles in it. It was still showing around a 150 miles left on the range when I handed it back.
At first the braking regeneration got on my nerves a bit, but I did get used to it though. One pedal driving(mostly) was quite novel too I thought. I did say to my missus that it was a shame that it weighs so much though, because with less weight I reckon that it would feel pretty quick to be honest.
The initial pick up when I floored it wasn't as spectacular as I thought it would be, especially because a lot of owners of EVs do say that it is immediate, but this wasn't anyway. Plus it never felt all that quick, however I am used to a F82 M4 as a daily though, plus the Merc GLE400d that we have also has far more torque in comparison to the EQA(it is heavier though).
Having a loan car that I didn't have to replace the fuel in felt good, and if you're only doing local runs, then I can definitely see why many love EVs for sure. It opened my eyes in a positive way, and that surprised me really, because I'm usually very quick to dismiss electric in fairness.
I just wanted to share some positivity about electric for a change really, and I felt like the car deserved it.
Sorry, I hate it when people trot out that line but thought it was fitting in this instance
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Props to you Lee for giving it a go though and posting your thoughts. I don't post much any more (I'm amazed GT9 still has the motivation, so props to him too!) but it's good to see a genuinely unbiased opinion, especially from someone who has petrol in their veins.
I don't know you well at all but know your posts well enough to appreciate that this is an honest account.
Zero Fuchs said:
You feeling ok hun?
Sorry, I hate it when people trot out that line but thought it was fitting in this instance![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
Props to you Lee for giving it a go though and posting your thoughts. I don't post much any more (I'm amazed GT9 still has the motivation, so props to him too!) but it's good to see a genuinely unbiased opinion, especially from someone who has petrol in their veins.
I don't know you well at all but know your posts well enough to appreciate that this is an honest account.
I really appreciate your kind words thanks. Sorry, I hate it when people trot out that line but thought it was fitting in this instance
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Props to you Lee for giving it a go though and posting your thoughts. I don't post much any more (I'm amazed GT9 still has the motivation, so props to him too!) but it's good to see a genuinely unbiased opinion, especially from someone who has petrol in their veins.
I don't know you well at all but know your posts well enough to appreciate that this is an honest account.
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Yes and it is totally genuine. I'm trying to be more open minded about the EV stuff really, and I really did enjoy my time with the car. Plus as many of you have mentioned, it isn't a great example of the breed either in fairness. So I will look forward to trying a faster/more highly regarded EV at some stage for sure.
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cerb4.5lee said:
I really appreciate your kind words thanks. ![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
Yes and it is totally genuine. I'm trying to be more open minded about the EV stuff really, and I really did enjoy my time with the car. Plus as many of you have mentioned, it isn't a great example of the breed either in fairness. So I will look forward to trying a faster/more highly regarded EV at some stage for sure.![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
Everyone's already said it, but I also appreciate that you've given it a fair crack of the whip.![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
Yes and it is totally genuine. I'm trying to be more open minded about the EV stuff really, and I really did enjoy my time with the car. Plus as many of you have mentioned, it isn't a great example of the breed either in fairness. So I will look forward to trying a faster/more highly regarded EV at some stage for sure.
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I second the view; go try an iPace out or an i4 M50 (I've been a passenger in an i4 40, and that was bloody lovely, so by the sounds of things the M50 ought to be superb!)
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cerb4.5lee said:
I really appreciate your kind words thanks. ![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
Yes and it is totally genuine. I'm trying to be more open minded about the EV stuff really, and I really did enjoy my time with the car. Plus as many of you have mentioned, it isn't a great example of the breed either in fairness. So I will look forward to trying a faster/more highly regarded EV at some stage for sure.![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
Everyone's already said it, but I also appreciate that you've given it a fair crack of the whip.![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
Yes and it is totally genuine. I'm trying to be more open minded about the EV stuff really, and I really did enjoy my time with the car. Plus as many of you have mentioned, it isn't a great example of the breed either in fairness. So I will look forward to trying a faster/more highly regarded EV at some stage for sure.
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I second the view; go try an iPace out or an i4 M50 (I've been a passenger in an i4 40, and that was bloody lovely, so by the sounds of things the M50 ought to be superb!)
M50 adds:
Air suspension
Adaptive damping (really want that on a heavy car)
AWD, rear wheel bias in sport+ modes
A load of extra tech which is optional on the 40
Bigger wheels and brakes
M-division setup of the power train and chassis, you need the 20" performance tyres though as that was what it was developed to use.
An extra 200hp and 260Ib/ft higher torque
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It's all good stuff
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