Eurotunnel for EV’s

[delta0]

RazerSauber said:

I was speaking to a mechanic the other day who told me that the Chunnel was meant to be banning the transport of crash damaged EVs until the batteries were removed and stowed in special containers. Quite how much nonsense he was chatting I don't know. He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs. I have done zero research into it but find it hard to believe.

If it’s crash damaged to the point that the battery is damaged it’s probably pretty smashed up and likely a write off. The last point is completely untrue, they would not be able to meet the minimum quota for selling electric vehicles that started this year currently at 22% and is going to increase every year.

[TheDeuce]

delta0 said:

RazerSauber said:

I was speaking to a mechanic the other day who told me that the Chunnel was meant to be banning the transport of crash damaged EVs until the batteries were removed and stowed in special containers. Quite how much nonsense he was chatting I don't know. He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs. I have done zero research into it but find it hard to believe.

If it’s crash damaged to the point that the battery is damaged it’s probably pretty smashed up and likely a write off. The last point is completely untrue, they would not be able to meet the minimum quota for selling electric vehicles that started this year currently at 22% and is going to increase every year.

I would have believed they may be considering updating their policy for crash damaged EV's - why not? But... the nonsense about the car makers not producing anymore EV's is so bonkers that it makes me doubt anything and everything they said!

[Michael_B]

Murph7355 said:

You came from Geneva - the world's largest residential care village

Indeed. Eurotunnel annoyed me so much the blanket fell of my knees… and I nearly dropped my ear trumpet!

[tr3a]

RazerSauber said:

I was speaking to a mechanic the other day {...} He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs.

Many mechanics hate EV's. Compared to ICE cars, there's hardly any maintenance required on them, so the growth in EV numbers spells the end for many garages and they know it. They have a vested interest in badmouthing EV's and making up negative BS about them. This is certainly an example of that.

Edited by tr3a on Tuesday 28th May 21:17

[mikey_b]

tr3a said:

RazerSauber]I was speaking to a mechanic the other day [... said:

He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs.

Many mechanics hate EV's. Compared to ICE cars, there's hardly any maintenance required on them, so the growth in EV numbers spells the end for many garages and they know it. They have a vested interest in badmouthing EV's and making up negative BS about them. This is certainly an example of that.

The ironic thing is that if they could be bothered to learn, there’s a killing to be made with them. Currently very few third-party garages know how to really sort them out when things like individual cells fail, but EVs have now been popular for a few years so there will be an ever increasing demand for such services.

[Murph7355]

Michael_B said:

Murph7355 said:

You came from Geneva - the world's largest residential care village

Indeed. Eurotunnel annoyed me so much the blanket fell of my knees… and I nearly dropped my ear trumpet!

Ref Eurotunnel, I wonder if weight has anything to do with where they put EVs...

[ACCYSTAN]

RazerSauber said:

I was speaking to a mechanic the other day who told me that the Chunnel was meant to be banning the transport of crash damaged EVs until the batteries were removed and stowed in special containers. Quite how much nonsense he was chatting I don't know. He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs. I have done zero research into it but find it hard to believe.

Technically he’s correct about Ford as they simply re-badge VW EV cars and charge more for them

[Michael_B]

Murph7355 said:

Ref Eurotunnel, I wonder if weight has anything to do with where they put EVs...

Both my Tesla 3 (and now Y) are lighter than my previous Audi 3 litre V6 A4 Allroad. Why do people think that EV are massively heavier than ICE vehicles?

Edited by Michael_B on Wednesday 29th May 20:59

[Michael_B]

vikingaero said:

I live 30 mins from the Tunnel and I probably travel about 6 times a years across the Channel. Maybe it's because I travel off -peak/mid season that I endure constant delays, cancellations and curtailments. I'm one of the unlucky ones that seem to be shafted by Le Shuttle. And my response is to fk 'm and the last 3 trips I've done Newhaven-Dieppe which is fantastic.

Born and dragged up in Maidstone, I was no stranger to numerous Channel ferry trips per year in my younger days.

But by the mid 90s when the Chunnel opened, I had a wife, two kids and a massive mortgage on a house in Weybridge, so was mostly taking the ferry for any rare continental trips.

Since moving to Switzerland in 1999, I’ve returned by car a total of three times, 2000, 2019 and 2024. Probably never again!

[HoHoHo]

Michael_B said:

Murph7355 said:

Ref Eurotunnel, I wonder if weight has anything to do with where they put EVs...

Both my Tesla 3 (and now Y) are lighter than my previous Audi 3 litre V6 A4 Allroad. Why do people think that EV are massively heavier than ICE vehicles?

Edited by Michael_B on Wednesday 29th May 20:59

As mentioned earlier, when I booked my short business trip to Europe for July yesterday the car (again) was automatically put in the single deck because of width, nothing to do with batteries or weight.

[TheDeuce]

Michael_B said:

Born and dragged up in Maidstone, I was no stranger to numerous Channel ferry trips per year in my younger days.

But by the mid 90s when the Chunnel opened, I had a wife, two kids and a massive mortgage on a house in Weybridge, so was mostly taking the ferry for any rare continental trips.

Since moving to Switzerland in 1999, I’ve returned by car a total of three times, 2000, 2019 and 2024. Probably never again!

I've done the tunnel a couple of times, once in a car, once in a motorhome. Also been over to Ireland a couple of times.

I think I'm done with it too though! I'd much rather fly or get the passenger train, and hire a car when I'm on the continent now. Fly/train the biggest bit, get the car only when it's needed.

In the motorhome I drove from Peterborough to Dresden in Germany - 800 miles, who needs that vs a flight and a few glasses of red

[Michael_B]

TheDeuce said:

In the motorhome I drove from Peterborough to Dresden in Germany - 800 miles, who needs that vs a flight and a few glasses of red

I hope you didn’t exclusively use motorways. Surely one the greatest pleasures of using a camping car is slowly trundling along single carriageway highways, accumulating an ever-increasing procession of pissed-off drivers behind, without ever pulling over to let them pass?

[Ken_Code]

leyorkie said:

Just gone through and noticed that all EV’S were loaded into the high bay carriages. Any thoughts as to why? Fire Risk following on from the ban at some car parks?
Not noticed this before but I’m usually in the high bay due to roof box and I’ve not see any EV’S in there before.

It’s because irrespective of the lower probability of a fire the results of one are far more severe than for an ICE-engined car.

[plfrench]

Ken_Code said:

leyorkie said:

Just gone through and noticed that all EV’S were loaded into the high bay carriages. Any thoughts as to why? Fire Risk following on from the ban at some car parks?
Not noticed this before but I’m usually in the high bay due to roof box and I’ve not see any EV’S in there before.

It’s because irrespective of the lower probability of a fire the results of one are far more severe than for an ICE-engined car.

If that were the concern, they’d just be banned surely? Not sure how putting them all in a high bay carriage would help

[TheDeuce]

Ken_Code said:

leyorkie said:

Just gone through and noticed that all EV’S were loaded into the high bay carriages. Any thoughts as to why? Fire Risk following on from the ban at some car parks?
Not noticed this before but I’m usually in the high bay due to roof box and I’ve not see any EV’S in there before.

It’s because irrespective of the lower probability of a fire the results of one are far more severe than for an ICE-engined car.

But the trains have li-ion batteries too... Big ones. They maintain AC and lighting etc in a power cut.

That's why the chunnel is forever burning down. Or, erm.. up - I suppose.. Out? In?

[sjg]

Took the Eurotunnel last Saturday in the Leaf. Designated small/medium and went on the double decker carriages.

[Maracus]

It's nothing to do with fires, it's the 'lowness' of a Tesla according to Eurotunnel when I asked.

[cvega]

Michael_B said:

Both my Tesla 3 (and now Y) are lighter than my previous Audi 3 litre V6 A4 Allroad. Why do people think that EV are massively heavier than ICE vehicles?

Edited by Michael_B on Wednesday 29th May 20:59

Because they're idiots who believe Daily Fail and Express.

Just wait until they hear what a petrol Range Rover weighs. Cretins.

[DonkeyApple]

RazerSauber said:

I was speaking to a mechanic the other day who told me that the Chunnel was meant to be banning the transport of crash damaged EVs until the batteries were removed and stowed in special containers. Quite how much nonsense he was chatting I don't know. He also told me a plethora of manufacturers including Ford, VW and Toyota were not going to be producing any more EVs. I have done zero research into it but find it hard to believe.

Did this mechanic strike you as being abnormally educated on the subject or just a normal sort of mechanic spewing mindless tripe garnered from Facebook posts published by idiots?

[DonkeyApple]

TheDeuce said:

I would have believed they may be considering updating their policy for crash damaged EV's - why not? But... the nonsense about the car makers not producing anymore EV's is so bonkers that it makes me doubt anything and everything they said!

We are going to start seeing EVs not being permitted at certain locations where the insurance industry are not prepared to offer cover so maybe a confined tube or a boat could fall foul as may underground car parks. But it's best to put to one side the information from nutbags who are in absolutely no position to be aware of anything that they are regurgitating.