Best £15k used EV?
Discussion
OutInTheShed said:
Looking at EVs on autotarder, sellers are often strangely reluctant to provide a picture of the dash showing 'car is fully charged and the 'puter says it's got n miles range'. How hard can it be?
What’s the value of that? Tells you a lot about how the previous owner drove it and not much else surely. 
Nomme de Plum said:
Surely a potential buyer will check battery health for themselves when they test the car or maybe ask specifically before they visit the garage.
That raises a good question - if buying a used EV, should I attempt to check the health of the battery and if so how?I know the old Leaf has the bars on the side of the dash display, but I'm not aware of other EVs displaying the battery health.
My assumption was that with a newish car (2-3 years) still under battery warranty, that wasn't really an issue.
This car will do well in excess of 250 miles and is under budget.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
I have friend with one of these, manages 300 miles range in summer
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
I have friend with one of these, manages 300 miles range in summer
Shabaza said:
This car will do well in excess of 250 miles and is under budget.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
I have friend with one of these, manages 300 miles range in summer
Could be really bad news if this is the battery recall thoughhttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
I have friend with one of these, manages 300 miles range in summer
Shabaza said:
This car will do well in excess of 250 miles and is under budget.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
The Kona is interesting and certainly has a good range, however with 2 out of 122 cars being sub £15k (considering just the 2020 models), it feels like one would need to budget a couple more grand to have a choice of cars and a decent chance of finding a good'un.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306178...
Toaster Pilot said:
kambites said:
Why would eligibility for a shiny new battery be bad news?
Lead times are massive and in some cases seemingly never ending. There was a long running thread on SpeakEV last year where someone was getting royally dicked around by them. 
plfrench said:
Having had a Zoe for a month, I was pretty impressed. It's pretty basic inside, but perfectly functional. The only thing I remember being a bit odd was the driving position - specifically, the steering wheel was a bit 'bus-like' i.e. tilted towards the horizontal for my liking, but hardly a deal breaker.
You'd have to take the front wheel off a bike, but other than that sounds like it would be ideal. £15k would get you a higher power version. This was plenty nippy enough for daily use. I think it's a good little car for what it is. We were getting circa 200 miles on a charge without trying with mixed use.
I’ve got a Zoe ZE50 I’ve had on lease for 2.5years. I’d agree with that, range down to about 170 in winter on the motorway being sensible. Not all come with fast (50kW) charging capability. You'd have to take the front wheel off a bike, but other than that sounds like it would be ideal. £15k would get you a higher power version. This was plenty nippy enough for daily use. I think it's a good little car for what it is. We were getting circa 200 miles on a charge without trying with mixed use.
HughG said:
I’ve got a Zoe ZE50 I’ve had on lease for 2.5years. I’d agree with that, range down to about 170 in winter on the motorway being sensible. Not all come with fast (50kW) charging capability.
What’s it like for comfort / refinement on the motorway? I know it’s quite small but does it hold its own? Toaster Pilot said:
HughG said:
I’ve got a Zoe ZE50 I’ve had on lease for 2.5years. I’d agree with that, range down to about 170 in winter on the motorway being sensible. Not all come with fast (50kW) charging capability.
What’s it like for comfort / refinement on the motorway? I know it’s quite small but does it hold its own? Bobtherallyfan said:
A few minutes spent reading the Zoe’s NCAP results should shorten your list quickly. Quite why Renault actually took the conscious decision to remove safety features they originally fitted is astonishing.
That's not my perspective.Yes they removed the head-level side airbag. However NCAP say that it would only have got one star even with that unchanged. ( https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renaul... ). And Renault say they removed it as it's rarely useful in the real world, presumably as most side impacts are below head level. So that isn't a big part of the story.
Anyway, I could instead buy a BMW i3. But the i3 was last tested in 2013, alongside the Zoe - when the i3 got 4/5, and the Zoe got 5/5. Accounting for one star's worth of upper side airbag on the Zoe, they're basically the same - if the i3 was re-tested today it could easily be another zero or one star car. Hence it says 'rating expired' on the i3's page on the NCAP site, because the 4/5 it got in 2013 would more than likely be lower if re-tested to today's stricter standards.
I could get an Ioniq, but that also has an expired safety rating from 2016, again before recent ratcheting up of the rating levels.
Only the Peugeot appears to have a 2019 test and a still-valid 4/5 stars.
Now, from this I could draw the conclusion that I should forget the other three and buy the Peugeot.
Alternatively I could consider that first, all these cars got high ratings when they were launched within the last ten years, so they're all pretty safe really in the grand scheme of things. Secondly, NCAP have increasingly broadened their scope to include features that I don't feel do much to protect me, such as pedestrian safety and the extent of hard-to-disable driver
samoht said:
…I could consider that first, all these cars got high ratings when they were launched within the last ten years, so they're all pretty safe really in the grand scheme of things. Secondly, NCAP have increasingly broadened their scope to include features that I don't feel do much to protect me, such as pedestrian safety and the extent of hard-to-disable driver assistance interference features. And thirdly that I've been driving for 25 years and have yet to have my first accident, let alone a serious one, so my personal 'active safety' record is good (whether by good luck or care). And I could conclude that, while crash safety is one factor in my purchase decision, it isn't going to be my overriding concern.
That’s where my head is with the Zoe. My wife went nuts when she heard about the retest result. The topic is currently a source of disagreement what we do when it goes back in 6months time. My head says buy a used Zoe or I3S, she’s talking about leasing a Tesla or Ionic 5. Toaster Pilot said:
There are some 64kWh Hyundai Konas just starting to scrape into £15k territory - astonishing value on the face of it although there is the danger that some of them might be subject to the battery recall.
Surely great news if they get a new battery?Ours is 45k miles and 4 yrs old….had a new battery last year, fabulous!
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