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S600BSB said:
isleofthorns said:
I get 270-280 miles off a full charge... I think that's pretty decent. Better than the model 3 we had.
recently did a 240m round trip and came back with 50m left
That’s really impressive range. Never got more than 250ish from mine.recently did a 240m round trip and came back with 50m left
TheDeuce said:
That seems oddly low for a car that's so strong as a utility vehicle in all other areas
For comparison my new i4 is 1600kg rated.
Poor show from the Jag!
Just the body structure and early attempt at what people needed ie. Not the charging speeds or network to allowFor comparison my new i4 is 1600kg rated.
Poor show from the Jag!
Proper shed dragging for people. All aluminium body for a car 2200kg has compromised in places. The i4 has a significantly longer overhang so you can offer more robust attachment to the body and still have sufficient structure to absorb energy.
Jag was out 5 years ahead of i4. Poor show BMW.
JonnyVTEC said:
TheDeuce said:
That seems oddly low for a car that's so strong as a utility vehicle in all other areas
For comparison my new i4 is 1600kg rated.
Poor show from the Jag!
Just the body structure and early attempt at what people needed ie. Not the charging speeds or network to allowFor comparison my new i4 is 1600kg rated.
Poor show from the Jag!
Proper shed dragging for people. All aluminium body for a car 2200kg has compromised in places. The i4 has a significantly longer overhang so you can offer more robust attachment to the body and still have sufficient structure to absorb energy.
Jag was out 5 years ahead of i4. Poor show BMW.
Such a shame they then stalled. The iPace was a fantastic start and could have been the starting point for Jag 'owning' European EV design.
I miss mine very much - despite having a faster and arguably 'better' i4.
bad company said:
TheDeuce said:
Same. Often lucky to get 200 if I drove it without any particular thought to economy.
How does that compare to the M50?I assume because the M50 punches through the air better, and in general I suspect BMW have managed to design a more efficient EV than Jag because... Well, it's jag.
I'd still have the iPace back in a heartbeat though
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TheDeuce said:
bad company said:
TheDeuce said:
Same. Often lucky to get 200 if I drove it without any particular thought to economy.
How does that compare to the M50?I assume because the M50 punches through the air better, and in general I suspect BMW have managed to design a more efficient EV than Jag because... Well, it's jag.
I'd still have the iPace back in a heartbeat though
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bad company said:
TheDeuce said:
bad company said:
TheDeuce said:
Same. Often lucky to get 200 if I drove it without any particular thought to economy.
How does that compare to the M50?I assume because the M50 punches through the air better, and in general I suspect BMW have managed to design a more efficient EV than Jag because... Well, it's jag.
I'd still have the iPace back in a heartbeat though
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Charging speed not really a factor assuming you can charge at home. If you do have to charge publicly then a 30 minute charge in a faster charging RV might be more like 40-45 mins. I never used a public charger for more than an hour in three years of driving one.
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TheDeuce said:
If the range is enough for you for the majority of the time... it's 'enough'.
Charging speed not really a factor assuming you can charge at home. If you do have to charge publicly then a 30 minute charge in a faster charging RV might be more like 40-45 mins. I never used a public charger for more than an hour in three years of driving one.
hth
This. If it fits your needs, i.e. you're not doing 250 miles a day or something, and can charge at home 7kW or at work the vast majority of the time - the iPace is, despite its age and ageing tech, still RIGHT up there as a solid choice. Top mine up at work on a Monday and a Friday, maybe the odd tipple at home to keep Octopus happy, then it's literally counting on two hands the number of public charges I need per year.Charging speed not really a factor assuming you can charge at home. If you do have to charge publicly then a 30 minute charge in a faster charging RV might be more like 40-45 mins. I never used a public charger for more than an hour in three years of driving one.
hth
I like this car SO much, because it's a good drivers car (REALLY good considering size and weight!), and an EV second. Hell, it doesn't even tell you what your battery %age is whilst driving it, it's almost like it's hanging onto a petrol gauge lol.
MarkM2 said:
TheDeuce said:
If the range is enough for you for the majority of the time... it's 'enough'.
Charging speed not really a factor assuming you can charge at home. If you do have to charge publicly then a 30 minute charge in a faster charging RV might be more like 40-45 mins. I never used a public charger for more than an hour in three years of driving one.
hth
This. If it fits your needs, i.e. you're not doing 250 miles a day or something, and can charge at home 7kW or at work the vast majority of the time - the iPace is, despite its age and ageing tech, still RIGHT up there as a solid choice. Top mine up at work on a Monday and a Friday, maybe the odd tipple at home to keep Octopus happy, then it's literally counting on two hands the number of public charges I need per year.Charging speed not really a factor assuming you can charge at home. If you do have to charge publicly then a 30 minute charge in a faster charging RV might be more like 40-45 mins. I never used a public charger for more than an hour in three years of driving one.
hth
I like this car SO much, because it's a good drivers car (REALLY good considering size and weight!), and an EV second. Hell, it doesn't even tell you what your battery %age is whilst driving it, it's almost like it's hanging onto a petrol gauge lol.
The whole EV movement is so hung up on range and charging times that it feels like the iPace is being unfairly forgotten by the motoring press. If viewed as a battery pack and charger it's not the best. But if viewed as A CAR, it's sublime, and imo remains unbeaten in it's class.
OP Update.
Now the very, very happy owner of a iPace SE. Collected yesterday evening. Couldn't be more impressed with the car or sales experience at Arnold Clark.
Bonus was the switchover of insurance from the Disco Sport to the iPace was a mere £31 on a Multi-Car Policy. I was braced for significantly worse with six months to run on this year's policy.
Home Charger install to be managed by Bumblebee EV via an offer through Arnold Clark, so if anyone has any experience I'm all ears.
If I had one criticism, and it isn't really a criticism, it does seem to steam up the front window quite a bit, but perhaps that says more about my heart/perspiration rate than any underlying issue. Its glorious.
Now the very, very happy owner of a iPace SE. Collected yesterday evening. Couldn't be more impressed with the car or sales experience at Arnold Clark.
Bonus was the switchover of insurance from the Disco Sport to the iPace was a mere £31 on a Multi-Car Policy. I was braced for significantly worse with six months to run on this year's policy.
Home Charger install to be managed by Bumblebee EV via an offer through Arnold Clark, so if anyone has any experience I'm all ears.
If I had one criticism, and it isn't really a criticism, it does seem to steam up the front window quite a bit, but perhaps that says more about my heart/perspiration rate than any underlying issue. Its glorious.
dmsims said:
Liam_92 said:
OP Update.
If I had one criticism, and it isn't really a criticism, it does seem to steam up the front window quite a bit, but perhaps that says more about my heart/perspiration rate than any underlying issue. Its glorious.
Could be the known issue with leaky windscreenIf I had one criticism, and it isn't really a criticism, it does seem to steam up the front window quite a bit, but perhaps that says more about my heart/perspiration rate than any underlying issue. Its glorious.
First, check if the car has had a new windscreen fitted - any Jag dealer should able to tell - if it's not obvious by looking at the etching that it's been replaced.
Also make sure AC is on, not to cool the car but to dry the air and remove any sitting water which could be present.
TheDeuce said:
Definitely something to check out asap as that can be very expensive to repair.
First, check if the car has had a new windscreen fitted - any Jag dealer should able to tell - if it's not obvious by looking at the etching that it's been replaced.
Also make sure AC is on, not to cool the car but to dry the air and remove any sitting water which could be present.
As soon as I put the aircon on it cleared up almost immediately, it did feel quite humid in the car (before putting the aircon on) which may have contributed.First, check if the car has had a new windscreen fitted - any Jag dealer should able to tell - if it's not obvious by looking at the etching that it's been replaced.
Also make sure AC is on, not to cool the car but to dry the air and remove any sitting water which could be present.
However, will check the windscreen detail, thanks for the tip!
Liam_92 said:
TheDeuce said:
Definitely something to check out asap as that can be very expensive to repair.
First, check if the car has had a new windscreen fitted - any Jag dealer should able to tell - if it's not obvious by looking at the etching that it's been replaced.
Also make sure AC is on, not to cool the car but to dry the air and remove any sitting water which could be present.
As soon as I put the aircon on it cleared up almost immediately, it did feel quite humid in the car (before putting the aircon on) which may have contributed.First, check if the car has had a new windscreen fitted - any Jag dealer should able to tell - if it's not obvious by looking at the etching that it's been replaced.
Also make sure AC is on, not to cool the car but to dry the air and remove any sitting water which could be present.
However, will check the windscreen detail, thanks for the tip!
A shame to have a hassle/question mark over what should be a happy purchase, and there's a good chance it's nothing to worry about of course. Hope so!
Thought I would take a moment to update this.
First off, car is immense. It is no effortlessly driveable, I'm not sure of the iPace is just excellent or it is more indicative of EV's in general, but I am really enjoying the driving experience.
The thing I find almost the most odd is that the car suggests a higher range in Dynamic than in Comfort (and equal that of Eco), so... do folk just drive it in Dynamic? Surely that is nonsense, the throttle sensitivity in Dynamic is incredible, it can't be the most efficient way of getting about.
Now, this windscreen. I've read in to this and it seems the common check is to push your fingers from the inside to see if there is any movement in the screen; there isn't any that I can feel.
I am religiously checking the interior for any dampness and it's all okay in that regard. However, it does just seem to mist up in normal driving, but clears up instantly when the AC is turned on. We've tended to just leave it on now, and no issues at all, not sure if that is the normal user experience or not.
As for the Charger install. Well, i won't go as far as to say avoid the Arnold Clark & Bumblebee EV Charger offer however, there is clearly a bit of a disconnect between those two organisations and neither seems particularly rushed to do.. well, anything, frankly.
Bumblebee have until a week today to meet their 14 Day obligation, so we'll see, but I am not hopeful.
First off, car is immense. It is no effortlessly driveable, I'm not sure of the iPace is just excellent or it is more indicative of EV's in general, but I am really enjoying the driving experience.
The thing I find almost the most odd is that the car suggests a higher range in Dynamic than in Comfort (and equal that of Eco), so... do folk just drive it in Dynamic? Surely that is nonsense, the throttle sensitivity in Dynamic is incredible, it can't be the most efficient way of getting about.
Now, this windscreen. I've read in to this and it seems the common check is to push your fingers from the inside to see if there is any movement in the screen; there isn't any that I can feel.
I am religiously checking the interior for any dampness and it's all okay in that regard. However, it does just seem to mist up in normal driving, but clears up instantly when the AC is turned on. We've tended to just leave it on now, and no issues at all, not sure if that is the normal user experience or not.
As for the Charger install. Well, i won't go as far as to say avoid the Arnold Clark & Bumblebee EV Charger offer however, there is clearly a bit of a disconnect between those two organisations and neither seems particularly rushed to do.. well, anything, frankly.
Bumblebee have until a week today to meet their 14 Day obligation, so we'll see, but I am not hopeful.
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