Cupra Born

[Jimjimhim]

DT1975 said:

Jimjimhim said:

Not on autotrader they aren't, where are you looking?

On AT.

The cheapest 2023 Polestar under 10k miles is £26490
There are 9 23 plate Cupra Borns with under 10k under that price.

I've no idea about Polestar spec hence I mentioned V1 / V2 Born. If you're comparing the 77Kwh Born and its range with the Polestar single motor then you might have a point. Does the boggo standard Polestar compete with a V3 77kwh Born I've no idea.

Edited by DT1975 on Tuesday 4th June 22:07

On AT

Born V1 £19,495 31,420 miles

Polestar 2 £19,500 43,136 miles


The Born is generally cheaper, but not by a huge amount. I wouldn't know how they compare spec for spec, but I would bet that the polestar has a lot more kit, it certainly has a much nicer interior.

[Ankh87]

What sort of range do these get on motorways and at 70mph?
Seriously looking at getting one but needs to get decent range as I do 70-90 miles a day.

[plfrench]

Ankh87 said:

What sort of range do these get on motorways and at 70mph?
Seriously looking at getting one but needs to get decent range as I do 70-90 miles a day.

The 58kWh easily does 200 miles if you’re sitting at 70mph this time of year. Around 180 in the winter.

[Ankh87]

plfrench said:

The 58kWh easily does 200 miles if you’re sitting at 70mph this time of year. Around 180 in the winter.

Thanks.

Seems too low that for me. If I'm on a 90 mile round trip granted both ways means I'll 100% have to charge up again.
Might have to either wait for the bigger battery or get something else entirely. Sucks because I really do like the Cupra, looks the most nornal EV rather than the Tesla fridges.

[Icehanger]

Ankh87 said:

Thanks.

Seems too low that for me. If I'm on a 90 mile round trip granted both ways means I'll 100% have to charge up again.
Might have to either wait for the bigger battery or get something else entirely. Sucks because I really do like the Cupra, looks the most nornal EV rather than the Tesla fridges.

Try looking at the 77kWh Born then, High 200's low 300's possible on the motorway in Summer (200-240 in winter)

[Sheepshanks]

Ankh87 said:

plfrench said:

The 58kWh easily does 200 miles if you’re sitting at 70mph this time of year. Around 180 in the winter.

Thanks.

Seems too low that for me. If I'm on a 90 mile round trip granted both ways means I'll 100% have to charge up again.
Might have to either wait for the bigger battery or get something else entirely. Sucks because I really do like the Cupra, looks the most nornal EV rather than the Tesla fridges.

If you do get one, you'd have to be careful about which tariff you get - some of the tariffs are only cheap for a few hours and that wouldn't be ong enough to put enough charge back in the battery.

[df76]

Sheepshanks said:

Ankh87 said:

plfrench said:

The 58kWh easily does 200 miles if you’re sitting at 70mph this time of year. Around 180 in the winter.

Thanks.

Seems too low that for me. If I'm on a 90 mile round trip granted both ways means I'll 100% have to charge up again.
Might have to either wait for the bigger battery or get something else entirely. Sucks because I really do like the Cupra, looks the most nornal EV rather than the Tesla fridges.

If you do get one, you'd have to be careful about which tariff you get - some of the tariffs are only cheap for a few hours and that wouldn't be ong enough to put enough charge back in the battery.

Octopus intelligent go would give you extra hours on the cheap rate if needed, that’s one way of covering that off.

[Ankh87]

I'm still looking into it all but it's seeming to be more and more costly. I currently have a zero car payment, just fuel to which is around £250pcm. So if I got a Cupra Born it would have to be around that pcm cost to be even worth it. I could in theory get a cheaper car, yes it'll be older than the Cupra, but still work out just as cheap as what I have.

Also I'm a bit fearful of the 180 miles in winter, meaning I'd have to constantly charge up each day in case I got called out to do one of my 100 mile trips. Don't want to use a public charger at their stupid high prices.

I might just wait another year, I'm sure they'll keep dropping in price.

[B5mike]

Ankh87 said:

Also I'm a bit fearful of the 180 miles in winter, meaning I'd have to constantly charge up each day in case I got called out to do one of my 100 mile trips.

Do you have the opportunity to charge at home? If yes, daily charging is a non-issue (and will take less time plugging in and unplugging than you currently spend at petrol stations)

[Ankh87]

B5mike said:

Do you have the opportunity to charge at home? If yes, daily charging is a non-issue (and will take less time plugging in and unplugging than you currently spend at petrol stations)

I would do once I had a charger installed. The issue is that I'd be using nearly a 1/3 to 1/2 of the range each day, which would mean that the car is out of action every night. Not a problem as such but having to constantly charge up each day isn't ideal to me. I rarely visit the petrol station, about twice a month and doesn't take long as there's no queues.

I'm going to have to have think because 180 miles at best in the winter is a bit rubbish and that would mean that I could be using 60-70% of that range a day, so it would take even longer to charge up over night. Let alone having to charge up every night doesn't seem to be the healthiest way to use the battery. I would be keeping the car at least 4 years as I would be buying it, no PCP or lease. So long term health is something I need to think about.

[plfrench]

Ankh87 said:

B5mike said:

Do you have the opportunity to charge at home? If yes, daily charging is a non-issue (and will take less time plugging in and unplugging than you currently spend at petrol stations)

I would do once I had a charger installed. The issue is that I'd be using nearly a 1/3 to 1/2 of the range each day, which would mean that the car is out of action every night. Not a problem as such but having to constantly charge up each day isn't ideal to me. I rarely visit the petrol station, about twice a month and doesn't take long as there's no queues.

I'm going to have to have think because 180 miles at best in the winter is a bit rubbish and that would mean that I could be using 60-70% of that range a day, so it would take even longer to charge up over night. Let alone having to charge up every night doesn't seem to be the healthiest way to use the battery. I would be keeping the car at least 4 years as I would be buying it, no PCP or lease. So long term health is something I need to think about.

Do you sleep at night? You'd easily get 130 miles of charge into the car in under 6 hours with a typical 7kW home charger, so it really wouldn't be a problem for the use case you're describing, in fact I'd say it's perfect for an EV.

If you did happen to need the car at 2am, then you could unplug it, it's not out of action until it is charged up again. If you're using it daily, then charging up daily on 7kW really wouldn't be an issue.

[Sheepshanks]

Ankh87 said:

I rarely visit the petrol station, about twice a month and doesn't take long as there's no queues.

Are you not doing the commute every week day? If you are, then surely you must be refueling weekly.

[Ankh87]

Sheepshanks said:

Are you not doing the commute every week day? If you are, then surely you must be refueling weekly.

Large fuel tank + very economical car = less time at the pump

Most days I do anything from 70 - 80 miles a week day but on occasions it can be touching 100 miles.

[Wagonwheel555]

Ankh87 said:

Large fuel tank + very economical car = less time at the pump

Most days I do anything from 70 - 80 miles a week day but on occasions it can be touching 100 miles.

Its do-able, as said above, assuming you have a home charger.

You just plug it in each night you get home, it charges overnight anyway so on a 7Kw charger you could easily go from <10% to 100% overnight. We are on Ovo Charge anytime and my wife plugs hers in with about 10% and its on 100% every morning without fail.

People who buy an EV usually justify it by offsetting the fuel cost saving, she has gone from £220pm in fuel to about £25 so we are getting a brand new car for a net cost of £180pm.

[Downward]

Anyone know when the fast one is out and what sort of price ?

[Wagonwheel555]

Downward said:

Anyone know when the fast one is out and what sort of price ?

End of this year by the look of it.

£47k or so seems to be the price, that would be without options.

[df76]

Downward said:

Anyone know when the fast one is out and what sort of price ?

You might want to check the Cupra UK website.

[plfrench]

I'd been checking from time to time, good to see the VZ has been added to the configurator now.

That's a pretty good price compared to something like a Golf GTi, especially considering this would be closer to Golf R in real-world performance terms. Good to see that the VZ comes in more than just the VZ specific colours of Dark Forest and Midnight Black... Probably go for Aurora again if we get one of these in the future - it does look good in the sun.