Cupra Born

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hepy

1,294 posts

143 months

Saturday 1st June
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raspy said:
hepy said:
58 KWh E boost v2 in grey - I am too tight to pay 15 quid extra a month for other colours.

Love mine, 11k miles in just under 6 months and would recommend one. Much nicer to drive and sit in than my previous Kia E niro, Cupra is more ‘premium’ in feel.

Via a Sal sac scheme, but would I lease one without the tax breaks? Nope, too expensive but that’s the same for all EV’s in my opinion.

Pros:
- quick and in Cupra mode, very nice to drive
- comfy inside, 3 hr drives no problem
- nice stereo despite only having two speakers
- wife loves the car
- reversing camera is excellent, I’m awful at parking but this makes it easy

Downsides:
- the enormous windscreen pillar compromises vision to a massive degree. Need to do a double take and head shuffle when pulling out of junctions
- laggy screen though it’s not as bad as people make out
- economy when it’s below 12 degrees isn’t as good as the Niro was, although it’s ok once it’s warmer

The 200-230 mile range isn’t a big issue for me, as I only tend to 200 mile plus journeys once or twice a month.

Happy to answer any questions about the car.
Your car has only two speakers? I don't know how you cope. My car has 18 speakers and that isn't enough for me. I'm going to make sure my next car has at least 30 speakers.
Are you getting a boombox in the boot?

Sheepshanks

33,299 posts

122 months

Saturday 1st June
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hepy said:
- nice stereo despite only having two speakers
It must be like 30yrs since cars only had 2 speakers!

I looked it up and the Born V2 spec says "7 infotainment speakers".

Probably too soon for yours but VW Group door speakers have a habit of snapping off their connectors if the doors are slammed.

Feirny

2,544 posts

150 months

Saturday 1st June
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Had my V2 58KwH E-Boost for two months now and I love it, so easy to drive and a nice place to be. Fairly quick and surprises a few things with its pace.

Mines on motability so can’t comment on lease pricing etc.

Wagonwheel555

846 posts

59 months

Sunday 2nd June
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hepy said:
58 KWh E boost v2 in grey - I am too tight to pay 15 quid extra a month for other colours.

Love mine, 11k miles in just under 6 months and would recommend one. Much nicer to drive and sit in than my previous Kia E niro, Cupra is more ‘premium’ in feel.

Via a Sal sac scheme, but would I lease one without the tax breaks? Nope, too expensive but that’s the same for all EV’s in my opinion.

Pros:
- quick and in Cupra mode, very nice to drive
- comfy inside, 3 hr drives no problem
- nice stereo despite only having two speakers
- wife loves the car
- reversing camera is excellent, I’m awful at parking but this makes it easy

Downsides:
- the enormous windscreen pillar compromises vision to a massive degree. Need to do a double take and head shuffle when pulling out of junctions
- laggy screen though it’s not as bad as people make out
- economy when it’s below 12 degrees isn’t as good as the Niro was, although it’s ok once it’s warmer

The 200-230 mile range isn’t a big issue for me, as I only tend to 200 mile plus journeys once or twice a month.

Happy to answer any questions about the car.
Quick is subjective, I guess its what you are used to. Its nippy sure but I wouldn't call it quick. We have a stage 1 mapped 330D and the difference is huge in performance.

The rest I would agree with, its make me think twice about the BMW. If we didn't need to tow a caravan, I would probably look at another EV on top of the Cupra.

hepy

1,294 posts

143 months

Sunday 2nd June
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Wagonwheel555 said:
hepy said:
58 KWh E boost v2 in grey - I am too tight to pay 15 quid extra a month for other colours.

Love mine, 11k miles in just under 6 months and would recommend one. Much nicer to drive and sit in than my previous Kia E niro, Cupra is more ‘premium’ in feel.

Via a Sal sac scheme, but would I lease one without the tax breaks? Nope, too expensive but that’s the same for all EV’s in my opinion.

Pros:
- quick and in Cupra mode, very nice to drive
- comfy inside, 3 hr drives no problem
- nice stereo despite only having two speakers
- wife loves the car
- reversing camera is excellent, I’m awful at parking but this makes it easy

Downsides:
- the enormous windscreen pillar compromises vision to a massive degree. Need to do a double take and head shuffle when pulling out of junctions
- laggy screen though it’s not as bad as people make out
- economy when it’s below 12 degrees isn’t as good as the Niro was, although it’s ok once it’s warmer

The 200-230 mile range isn’t a big issue for me, as I only tend to 200 mile plus journeys once or twice a month.

Happy to answer any questions about the car.
Quick is subjective, I guess its what you are used to. Its nippy sure but I wouldn't call it quick. We have a stage 1 mapped 330D and the difference is huge in performance.

The rest I would agree with, its make me think twice about the BMW. If we didn't need to tow a caravan, I would probably look at another EV on top of the Cupra.
In terms of outright performance you’re right, but that linear electric surge forward, makes it feel quick in day to day driving. I had a Cupra Leon 300 4drive before, and the Born feels quicker.

raspy

1,606 posts

97 months

Sunday 2nd June
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hepy said:
In terms of outright performance you’re right, but that linear electric surge forward, makes it feel quick in day to day driving. I had a Cupra Leon 300 4drive before, and the Born feels quicker.
Isn't that because your old car had lag from the gearbox Vs the EV?

plfrench

2,500 posts

271 months

Sunday 2nd June
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Wagonwheel555 said:
Quick is subjective, I guess its what you are used to. Its nippy sure but I wouldn't call it quick. We have a stage 1 mapped 330D and the difference is huge in performance.

The rest I would agree with, its make me think twice about the BMW. If we didn't need to tow a caravan, I would probably look at another EV on top of the Cupra.
In real world driving keeping to speed limits, a 330d would have to try embarrassingly hard to pull away though. It would a hell of a lot of fuss and noise for not really much go. This is where EVs come into their own. I came from an E350d with 286hp and 600Nm torque 5.5 sec to 62mph etc on paper. But it would just feel like it was trying so hard compared to the effortless nature of the Born / ID3. Fine with a sports car where you want it to be about the theatre, but a family Diesel estate / saloon - nah just makes it unrefined.

Wagonwheel555

846 posts

59 months

Monday 3rd June
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plfrench said:
In real world driving keeping to speed limits, a 330d would have to try embarrassingly hard to pull away though. It would a hell of a lot of fuss and noise for not really much go. This is where EVs come into their own. I came from an E350d with 286hp and 600Nm torque 5.5 sec to 62mph etc on paper. But it would just feel like it was trying so hard compared to the effortless nature of the Born / ID3. Fine with a sports car where you want it to be about the theatre, but a family Diesel estate / saloon - nah just makes it unrefined.
You compared them side by side?

I drive both at the moment, the 330D is quicker. The Born is not slow and feels like its giving you a shove but its not as quick, not 0-60 and not from a rolling start either.

Like I said, it subjective and as much as I actually prefer driving the Born these days, its not a 'quick' car in my opinion.

Jimjimhim

348 posts

3 months

Monday 3rd June
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More of a nippy warm hatch really. I do like these cars, but on the used market they seem very expensive for what you get, especially when compared to say a Polestar.

autumnsum

435 posts

34 months

Monday 3rd June
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Seen quite a few of these about lately, they do look pretty cool, I like the cyberpunk kind of design on the one with the gold trim.

BertBert

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19,237 posts

214 months

Monday 3rd June
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Jimjimhim said:
More of a nippy warm hatch really. I do like these cars, but on the used market they seem very expensive for what you get, especially when compared to say a Polestar.
I thought the born and the polestar were similar prices?

BertBert

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19,237 posts

214 months

Monday 3rd June
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Actually the polestar 2 is more expensive

Jimjimhim

348 posts

3 months

Monday 3rd June
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BertBert said:
Jimjimhim said:
More of a nippy warm hatch really. I do like these cars, but on the used market they seem very expensive for what you get, especially when compared to say a Polestar.
I thought the born and the polestar were similar prices?
Yes and look at what you get with something like a polestar vs the born.

BertBert

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19,237 posts

214 months

Monday 3rd June
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Jimjimhim said:
Yes and look at what you get with something like a polestar vs the born.
I'm not familiar with it really. What do you get?

Jimjimhim

348 posts

3 months

Monday 3rd June
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BertBert said:
Jimjimhim said:
Yes and look at what you get with something like a polestar vs the born.
I'm not familiar with it really. What do you get?
A much nicer car

BertBert

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19,237 posts

214 months

Monday 3rd June
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Jimjimhim said:
A much nicer car
Right

Jimjimhim

348 posts

3 months

Monday 3rd June
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BertBert said:
Jimjimhim said:
A much nicer car
Right
Have a look at them, but IMO you get an awful lot more for the same sort of money.

DT1975

519 posts

31 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Jimjimhim said:
Have a look at them, but IMO you get an awful lot more for the same sort of money.
I'd agree with the V3 Born but V1 and V2 can be had used with low miles for much cheaper than the Polestar.

Jimjimhim

348 posts

3 months

Tuesday 4th June
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DT1975 said:
Jimjimhim said:
Have a look at them, but IMO you get an awful lot more for the same sort of money.
I'd agree with the V3 Born but V1 and V2 can be had used with low miles for much cheaper than the Polestar.
Not on autotrader they aren't, where are you looking?

DT1975

519 posts

31 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Jimjimhim said:
Not on autotrader they aren't, where are you looking?
On AT.

The cheapest 2023 Polestar under 10k miles is £26490
There are 9 23 plate Cupra Borns with under 10k under that price.

I've no idea about Polestar spec hence I mentioned V1 / V2 Born. If you're comparing the 77Kwh Born and its range with the Polestar single motor then you might have a point. Does the boggo standard Polestar compete with a V3 77kwh Born I've no idea.

Edited by DT1975 on Tuesday 4th June 22:07