Best £15k used EV?

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Mikebentley

6,291 posts

143 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2023
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samoht said:
a311 said:
Kia E-Niros are starting to push this kind of figure now. I've been contemplating one for 6-9 months time. My mate loves his.
Having gone around in quite a few circles, I'm now basically minded to push the budget by a few grand and get an e-Niro 64. Looks like some around 50-60k miles are around £18k, so that's still another 4 years and ~40k miles of manufacturer warranty. I like the cabin and driving position, the interior space is good, the range looks good, and I'm not aware of any major issues with them (?)

Only thing is I've just noticed that the old petrol car I need to sell has got slight rust in the wheelarches, so will need to get that fixed and then sold, and then can go for a Niro.
Can you push the budget a little and get an MG4 SE that’s been pre reg?

Max5476

993 posts

117 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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I've taken the plunge and purchased a 38kWh Hyundai Ioniq at the weekend, it was just over thread budget, as I wanted a Premium SE with the electric seats, and this one had a sunroof as well. Looking forward to using it on the commute this week (40 miles each way), from the drive back from Peterborough ~ 80 miles, I was really pleased with it. I know the 38 is limited when fast charging, but It's unlikely I will public charge as we will likely take the other car on longer journeys so it should be perfect for us.

I do need to get it booked in with Hyundai for the coolant bulletin.


Still Mulling

12,774 posts

180 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Excellent; enjoy! Ours is booked in for a week Monday… irked

Still, 5 mi/kWh on the 20 minutes journey back from sister-in-law’s today! woohoo

Bannock

5,300 posts

33 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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An excellent choice, Sir.

I'd really like one, but the Mrs say "too big", so we're probably going to end up with a VW e-UP! Like you, we have a larger ICE car for long journeys/big loads.

Max5476

993 posts

117 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Enjoyed my first commute in it yesterday, although the weather was awful, so headlights and wipers on. Drove 81 miles, leaving with 80% battery, and got home with 31% remaining, roughly 4.3 miles / kW with no particular consideration for economy. I'm happy with that as I had done my calculations around 3.7 miles / kW. It'll be interesting to see how it changes over winter and as I get used to the car.

I've got an Ohme Home Pro being installed today, and then need to swap to a cheap tariff for my electricity. I am with outfox the market at 26.8p per kWh, so happy with 6p/mile currently, but will be nice to do better. My Leon is costing 15p/mile with current fuel prices.

Insurance was a nice surprise, from the stories in the news (and my own experience with my Leon) was expecting a big jump, particularly to keep the same policy, but was only an extra £100 to replace my Wife's Focus until end of May, and that included a significant increase in miles from 3,000 to 10,000.

Edited by Max5476 on Wednesday 1st November 10:02

bennno

11,961 posts

272 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Bannock said:
An excellent choice, Sir.

I'd really like one, but the Mrs say "too big", so we're probably going to end up with a VW e-UP! Like you, we have a larger ICE car for long journeys/big loads.
Drive a 500e first…..

Bannock

5,300 posts

33 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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bennno said:
Bannock said:
An excellent choice, Sir.

I'd really like one, but the Mrs say "too big", so we're probably going to end up with a VW e-UP! Like you, we have a larger ICE car for long journeys/big loads.
Drive a 500e first…..
Nah, sorry, got to have 5 doors. Non-starter.

plfrench

2,518 posts

271 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Max5476 said:
Enjoyed my first commute in it yesterday, although the weather was awful, so headlights and wipers on. Drove 81 miles, leaving with 80% battery, and got home with 31% remaining, roughly 4.3 miles / kW with no particular consideration for economy. I'm happy with that as I had done my calculations around 3.7 miles / kW. It'll be interesting to see how it changes over winter and as I get used to the car.

I've got an Ohme Home Pro being installed today, and then need to swap to a cheap tariff for my electricity. I am with outfox the market at 26.8p per kWh, so happy with 6p/mile currently, but will be nice to do better. My Leon is costing 15p/mile with current fuel prices.

Insurance was a nice surprise, from the stories in the news (and my own experience with my Leon) was expecting a big jump, particularly to keep the same policy, but was only an extra £100 to replace my Wife's Focus until end of May, and that included a significant increase in miles from 3,000 to 10,000.

Edited by Max5476 on Wednesday 1st November 10:02
I’d recommend Ovo Anytime. They’ve just dropped the price to 7p/kWh for EV charging and no affect on the standard tariff - I’m on variable at the moment which is 25.x p/kWh. Works really well for us.

bennno

11,961 posts

272 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Bannock said:
Nah, sorry, got to have 5 doors. Non-starter.
Try a Zoe then

Bannock

5,300 posts

33 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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bennno said:
Bannock said:
Nah, sorry, got to have 5 doors. Non-starter.
Try a Zoe then
Yep, was tempted with one, but Insurance Group 19 versus 10 for an e-Up rules it out as we'll be adding a 17 year old in early 2025.

Been around all the buoys, it's going to be an e-Up, Mii or Citigo for us. Does exactly what we need it do do for the lowest purchase price and running costs.

bennno

11,961 posts

272 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Bannock said:
Yep, was tempted with one, but Insurance Group 19 versus 10 for an e-Up rules it out as we'll be adding a 17 year old in early 2025.

Been around all the buoys, it's going to be an e-Up, Mii or Citigo for us. Does exactly what we need it do do for the lowest purchase price and running costs.
Worth running a quote as insurance groups make little difference with a learner. After passing you probably wouldn’t want a black box on the car, which is pretty much the only way to make cars insurance for the first couple of years.

James6112

4,662 posts

31 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertisin...

As someone posted on other thread, you can get a new (pre the incoming facelift) Corsa E, for under 20k
200 mile range

C G

839 posts

193 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.

aussieal

480 posts

164 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Nicely below budget, but I’ve just gone for a 70 plate e-Up! in tungsten silver, low miles and was close to the cost of the equivalent age Seat Mii’s that were available.

Still some VW warranty remaining on it, extending that and insuring it will be less than £50 a month.

And by my reckoning it’ll cost about £2.50 to fully charge.

Interested to have our first EV and to see if we end up using it more than the main family car which is a Q5 2.0 diesel for all of the local stuff.

Need to sort my home charger now, looking at the pod point 3 I think.

TooLateForAName

4,781 posts

187 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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C G said:
I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.
e-niro 64. Bigger inside than your options, better range.

Leaf has battery issues - no thermal management

the e-c4/e2008/mokka-e/ds are all the same platform.

samoht

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5,889 posts

149 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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C G said:
I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.
There are some 64 kWh e-Niros around £17-18k, it feels like they'd be ideal for your requirements if you can find a good one in budget.

Interestingly the e-C4 seems to have a longer wheelbase and overall length than the e2008, I'm not clear how the overall space inside shakes out.

I'm hoping to nab a cheap e-C4 myself for around £15k or so.

Still Mulling

12,774 posts

180 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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C G said:
I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.
For your requirements, an e-Niro seems to align well.

C G

839 posts

193 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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samoht said:
C G said:
I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.
There are some 64 kWh e-Niros around £17-18k, it feels like they'd be ideal for your requirements if you can find a good one in budget.

Interestingly the e-C4 seems to have a longer wheelbase and overall length than the e2008, I'm not clear how the overall space inside shakes out.

I'm hoping to nab a cheap e-C4 myself for around £15k or so.
There are some 18 month old e-C4s on Auto trader for under £17k which seems very good value.

My YouTube research suggests they have less boot space than the e-2008.

C G

839 posts

193 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Still Mulling said:
C G said:
I'm in a similar position, trying to find a new family car for the £15k budget. 2 young children and need a decent, but not huge boot. Would prefer a slightly higher ride hide for loading the kids in. Not set on EV but the cheaper running cost and smoother drive is appealing. Do want a real world driving range of 150 miles for a journey of 110 miles done a few times a year to visit family.

Research so far suggests I will probably need to up the budget to £18k and this will get us a 1-3 year old Peugeot e-2008, Citroen e-C4 or Nissan Leaf e+, from a car supermarket or franchise dealer.

The Peugeot is the most stylish and I think the best boot size. The Citroen is a bit cheaper but a slightly smaller boot. And then the Leaf which is an older design but perhaps a longer range.

Ruled out some other options like Hyundai Ioniq (a bit too low slung for us) and Kona (too small).

Anyone got any thoughts on which of these would be the best option?

Thanks.
For your requirements, an e-Niro seems to align well.
I can't find any under £19.5k near me and those examples are three years old, which admittedly is still very new. Have to work out whether the real world range is that much better to warranty the extra spend.

samoht

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5,889 posts

149 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Point taken on the 2008/C4, I guess the Pug perhaps sits you a fraction more upright and thus leaves more length in the boot, either that or the 'loading line' is assumed to be higher perhaps.

C G said:
I can't find any under £19.5k near me and those examples are three years old, which admittedly is still very new. Have to work out whether the real world range is that much better to warranty the extra spend.
A 3yo Kia comes with 4 years of manufacturer warranty, whereas a 1yo Peugeot comes with 2 years. So in terms of remaining warranty, the Kia could be considered 'newer'.

My understanding is the range gap is a double whammy, as the Niro has a bigger battery (64 vs 50 kWh) and a bit better efficiency at motorway speeds compared to the Stellantis cars.

Definitely worth a sit in to see what you think IMO.

(My wife has vetoed Kia/Hyundai, so looking towards the e-C4 now)