Why are used Audi e-tron so cheap?

Why are used Audi e-tron so cheap?

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OutInTheShed

8,139 posts

29 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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ant1973 said:
The residual value of the car did make me burst out laughing. You can already go outwith the dealer network and buy an equivalent Etron for £22.5k. The idea those cars are worth £18k in two years time is for the birds...
Which rather begs the question, what will these things be worth in two years?

autumnsum

435 posts

34 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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T_S_M said:
Glad people have managed to take advantage of the offer that I posted.

I still haven’t picked mine up yet due to Maidstone Audi being useless. Should be looking at getting it this weekend though.

The residual value on mine is £23k after 18 months and there’s no way it’s going to be worth that, so it’s a no-brainer to just give it back at the end like a lease.

My figures are £500 month, £280/month, 6k over 18 months. The dealer messed up my paperwork so had to knock £750 off the price of the car to stick to the deal agreed.

If anyone is looking, there is around a month wait for the charger to be fitted, so something to be aware of.
They will almost certainly just lease it out again, rinse and repeat for as long as they trust the vehicle. With them being EVs there might not be much to go wrong...

TheDeuce

22,752 posts

69 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
ant1973 said:
The residual value of the car did make me burst out laughing. You can already go outwith the dealer network and buy an equivalent Etron for £22.5k. The idea those cars are worth £18k in two years time is for the birds...
Which rather begs the question, what will these things be worth in two years?
I dint think looking at the depreciation trend that has led to today's value will continue on the same trend, same rate.

Car depreciation reduces over time and reduces significantly as the cars base value is reached. The base value is actually defined by what other cars are available for the same sort of money and how appealing those options are.

In the case of early gen EV SUV's, their value has been initially dragged down by the above sort of comparison - because other models have since launched that offer the same, or more.. for less, thus collapsing the values of the earlier cars.

But can a £70-80k car that's just a few years old actually sink rapidly below, say £10-15k, spec/mileage dependant anytime soon? Within two years? Quite possibly not - because it may well prove to be for the same money, few buyers will be able to find anything overall 'better' for their drive, for less ££

Unless people are doing crazy mileage or trashing the cars, I'd guess around £2-3k pa depreciation a year from this point.

The wildcard factor would be battery degredation occuring to a worrying extent as the cars age - but so far, across almost the entire EV industry, there are no signs of that.

Max1111

87 posts

85 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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TheDeuce said:
In the case of early gen EV SUV's, their value has been initially dragged down by the above sort of comparison - because other models have since launched that offer the same, or more.. for less, thus collapsing the values of the earlier cars.

But can a £70-80k car that's just a few years old actually sink rapidly below, say £10-15k, spec/mileage dependant anytime soon? Within two years? Quite possibly not - because it may well prove to be for the same money, few buyers will be able to find anything overall 'better' for their drive, for less ££

Unless people are doing crazy mileage or trashing the cars, I'd guess around £2-3k pa depreciation a year from this point.

The wildcard factor would be battery degredation occuring to a worrying extent as the cars age - but so far, across almost the entire EV industry, there are no signs of that.
I think we can just ignore the initial price but I agree 2-3k a year sounds reasonable. There will be quite a lot in this price range in 2 years time, I think we'll have Model 3's for £15k in a couple of years.

dmsims

6,616 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I think values will continue to collapse

The vast majority simply don't need anything that big and the real killer will be out of warranty repair costs which are eye watering

I'll take the Zoe smile

Max1111

87 posts

85 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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dmsims said:
I think values will continue to collapse

The vast majority simply don't need anything that big and the real killer will be out of warranty repair costs which are eye watering

I'll take the Zoe smile
A lot of people just like being in a big high-up SUV, even if it's just for going to the shops! My wife was over the moon when I suggested getting rid of the sports car for one of these lol

TheDeuce

22,752 posts

69 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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dmsims said:
I think values will continue to collapse

The vast majority simply don't need anything that big and the real killer will be out of warranty repair costs which are eye watering

I'll take the Zoe smile
Very wise, could save a lot of money.

The only problem is, you'll have... A Zoe. Nothing wrong with that, but a person that desires a large, powerful 4x4 SUV dripping with gadgets and expensive leather, is probably not going to see a Zoe as an alternative.

Personally I'd take the e-tron or iPace, both are staggering value now, and keep them in warranty - about £500-700 a year. Still a bargain given the amount and class of car.

dmsims

6,616 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I know of no one who desires a large pretend 4x4 argue

When I showed my wife it saying how about of these she told me to FRO - said why? and it's ugly

TheDeuce

22,752 posts

69 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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dmsims said:
I know of no one who desires a large pretend 4x4 argue

When I showed my wife it saying how about of these she told me to FRO - said why? and it's ugly
Pretend? They are 4x4

Show her an iPace, gorgeous looking cars inside and out!

dmsims

6,616 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I quote "Since when did Jaguar stop making beautiful cars ?" rofl

TheDeuce said:
Show her an iPace, gorgeous looking cars inside and out!

James6112

4,652 posts

31 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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dmsims said:
I know of no one who desires a large pretend 4x4 argue

When I showed my wife it saying how about of these she told me to FRO - said why? and it's ugly
But a Zoe then, if she thinks that’s beautiful
It’s a free country !

Luke.

11,060 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I rather fancy an EQC in this sort of ballpark...

325iMSport

324 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Luke. said:
I rather fancy an EQC in this sort of ballpark...
Same here but there no where near this price.

Luke.

11,060 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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325iMSport said:
Luke. said:
I rather fancy an EQC in this sort of ballpark...
Same here but there no where near this price.
They're very near this price...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312044...

Leggier, but still...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310173...


duff

987 posts

202 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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An AMG Line EQC is equivalent to a 55 ETron (probably something above the Teknik as well) and, for similar mileage cars, they’re about the same at around £27k.

325iMSport

324 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Luke. said:
325iMSport said:
Luke. said:
I rather fancy an EQC in this sort of ballpark...
Same here but there no where near this price.
They're very near this price...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312044...

Leggier, but still...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310173...
Yes your right, if buying outright there very similar but not if buying on finance as Audi have the £2500 dealer contribution plus the free charger.

Luke.

11,060 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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325iMSport said:
Luke. said:
325iMSport said:
Luke. said:
I rather fancy an EQC in this sort of ballpark...
Same here but there no where near this price.
They're very near this price...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312044...

Leggier, but still...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310173...
Yes your right, if buying outright there very similar but not if buying on finance as Audi have the £2500 dealer contribution plus the free charger.
There's a dull men's forum expecting your post....



Alex Z

1,230 posts

79 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I’d not realised how cheap these were. I’m getting more convinced our next buy will be a used electric car like this.

SKM1984

204 posts

152 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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SKM1984 said:
I'm off to my local dealer to see/drive one tomorrow having never driven an electric car. Most on a good deal are miles away!
Signed for this car today.

2k down 260 a month.

Blue 71 reg 50 with nice options.

1 question, do I need to do anything to instigate the ohme charger install? The dealer told me that purchase of the car automatically starts the process.

T_S_M

819 posts

186 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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SKM1984 said:
Signed for this car today.

2k down 260 a month.

Blue 71 reg 50 with nice options.

1 question, do I need to do anything to instigate the ohme charger install? The dealer told me that purchase of the car automatically starts the process.
Yeah you will receive an email from Ohme, which includes a questionnaire/survey of your home you fill out. Once you’ve completed that someone from ChargedEV, who install them, will contact you to book your fitting.

It is quite a lengthy process though. I sent my survey 2 weeks ago, and they contacted me yesterday to book me in for fitting on the 10th Jane.

You’ll also have to be £50 for surge protection too.

ETA: How did it drive? I’ve not had chance to drive one yet, only poke around inside.

Edited by T_S_M on Thursday 7th December 20:15