Best £15k used EV?
Discussion
Still Mulling said:
I grant the the interior space was impressive. Have you tried another EV? I'd encourage you to do so before committing to a long term investment.
I only got mine as it was a cheap lease and with the free charging at work, the fuel saving almost covered the cost of the lease. In my family there have been 2 first generation Leafs and 3 current generation and no faults whatsoever on any of them. It has it’s weaknesses but they can be overlooked and, for the money, I don’t see anything else I’d rather have EV wise. I’m sure the Ioniq is superior in some respects but I can’t get over the looks and the Leaf suits my usage so I’ll probably just stick with what I know or possibly go for a Polestar 2 /M3 if they continue to drop toward low £20’s
I echo Bannochs comments in reply to your dislikes. Can’t say I’ve noticed any of the issues you raise. The seat could go lower but I’m coming from a string of BMW/VWs that would go very low, so not a huge issue. At 6’4 I still find it perfectly comfortable.
Edited by duff on Thursday 17th August 10:28
Still Mulling said:
Sorry, late to this.
We had an Ioniq 28 until it was recently driven into. It was brilliant.
We now have an Ioniq 38: it’s a step on again; like a new car, not a facelift. I cannot recommend it enough!
We had a Leaf as a hire car while insurance was sorted out. It was horrible. On a day-to-day basis, it was like having a car designed by people who don’t use one.
Can I ask, does the 28 have the app to turn on the heating before you get in, or only the 38? Can't find a concrete answer online as US and UK specs are different.We had an Ioniq 28 until it was recently driven into. It was brilliant.
We now have an Ioniq 38: it’s a step on again; like a new car, not a facelift. I cannot recommend it enough!
We had a Leaf as a hire car while insurance was sorted out. It was horrible. On a day-to-day basis, it was like having a car designed by people who don’t use one.
Still Mulling said:
Bannock said:
Amazing how we all see the same things differently, isn't it.
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Not meant to be contradictory or confrontational, just my personal thoughts.
Absolutely! Life is boring without difference and thus balance! ...
Not meant to be contradictory or confrontational, just my personal thoughts.
Personally I'm pleased people seem to not want 62kwh Leafs, as it's making them very cheap at the moment if I decide to go for one. Sadly, the flip side of that is that nobody wants my current 30kwh Leaf either and it's heading towards near worthlessness! Which is bloody ridiculous as it's only done 36k miles and hasn't got a darned thing wrong with it, inside or out. Oh well, swings and roundabouts, as with pretty much everything in life.
Luke. said:
I'd go i3 too. It's probably the best car I've ever owned - and in my mind, a modern day version of the Mini. Great fun to drive with unrivalled details such as suicide doors and the carbon fibre shell. Very nippy too and still look brilliant. Will definitely get another.
Can you turn off or dial down the 1-pedal driving in these? I've driven one, once, and for motorway work it was awful. You'd come off the pedal, forgetting about it, and you'd be going toward the windscreen! I know you just need to "re-cal" your brain, but I'd still have preferred the thing to free-wheel rather than do that. It also felt like it was bobbing and pitching about like a cork on the ocean. Not very good if you easily get motion sick like me. It was the only car I've ever driven, aside from a go-Kart, where I started to feel a bit queasy driving it. It was a ReX though so maybe having that boat anchor in the back affected the dynamics a bit. Still Mulling said:
Faster charging? Rate is the same (I think) and the 38’s efficiency is greater, so the same charge time yields greater added range, despite the battery only being partially charged.
The 38 has a much worse charging curve then the 28, it’s very possible to go point to point faster in a 28 on long journeys. 
Toaster Pilot said:
Still Mulling said:
Faster charging? Rate is the same (I think) and the 38’s efficiency is greater, so the same charge time yields greater added range, despite the battery only being partially charged.
The 38 has a much worse charging curve then the 28, it’s very possible to go point to point faster in a 28 on long journeys. samoht said:
Blue line is the 28 kWh model on a 100+ kW charger, yellow is the 38 model showing 35 kW at 60% charge:
Otispunkmeyer said:
Can you turn off or dial down the 1-pedal driving in these? I've driven one, once, and for motorway work it was awful. You'd come off the pedal, forgetting about it, and you'd be going toward the windscreen! I know you just need to "re-cal" your brain, but I'd still have preferred the thing to free-wheel rather than do that. It also felt like it was bobbing and pitching about like a cork on the ocean. Not very good if you easily get motion sick like me. It was the only car I've ever driven, aside from a go-Kart, where I started to feel a bit queasy driving it. It was a ReX though so maybe having that boat anchor in the back affected the dynamics a bit.
Bought my I3S a few months ago, and you're quite right. It's a question of recalibration of the brain mostly - ie you get used to it. Harder for me was to moderate the 0-5 mph! I didn't mind, but I had a couple of passengers complain about me driving 'jerkily'. The answer for me, is to use Eco-Pro mode when I have a passenger. In fact I use Eco-Pro anyway, and just select Comfort or sport if I need to be super aggressive with the throttle. I've always taken a pride in making progress smoothly, and being told I was jerky was a real shock. I use the car for the VDS as well, and then my passengers usually do NOT want to be shaken about!Still have to be aware about knocking it out of cruise control, as it will go into full regen if your foot is right off the throttle,
anonymous said:
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Might as well buy from a dealer for not much more.Think Renault dealers were offering 0% finance on used Zoes as well but not sure if this one qualifies
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308030...
samoht said:
Toaster Pilot said:
Still Mulling said:
Faster charging? Rate is the same (I think) and the 38’s efficiency is greater, so the same charge time yields greater added range, despite the battery only being partially charged.
The 38 has a much worse charging curve then the 28, it’s very possible to go point to point faster in a 28 on long journeys. samoht said:
Blue line is the 28 kWh model on a 100+ kW charger, yellow is the 38 model showing 35 kW at 60% charge:
The problem with leafs is the lack of active thermal management, leads to higher battery degredation
I do like the look of the MG5, 2021, 24k miles £14,640
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307290...
I do like the look of the MG5, 2021, 24k miles £14,640
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307290...
LincolnLovin said:
The problem with leafs is the lack of active thermal management, leads to higher battery degredation
I do like the look of the MG5, 2021, 24k miles £14,640
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307290...
Random winter tyre alongside the Bridgestones doesn’t scream well maintained I do like the look of the MG5, 2021, 24k miles £14,640
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307290...
a311 said:
Kia E-Niros are starting to push this kind of figure now. I've been contemplating one for 6-9 months time. My mate loves his.
Having gone around in quite a few circles, I'm now basically minded to push the budget by a few grand and get an e-Niro 64. Looks like some around 50-60k miles are around £18k, so that's still another 4 years and ~40k miles of manufacturer warranty. I like the cabin and driving position, the interior space is good, the range looks good, and I'm not aware of any major issues with them (?) Only thing is I've just noticed that the old petrol car I need to sell has got slight rust in the wheelarches, so will need to get that fixed and then sold, and then can go for a Niro.
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