Cheapest 200mile EV?
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Was going to by a Polestar 2 but not sure I want to spend the 22k on one.
My commute is 90miles, but I'd like a car that can drive 200 miles on one charge (all year round) I'm case we have to charge my partners electric car one night, or the charger doesn't charge for some reason.
What's the cheapest electric car sub 50k miles that will do a reliable 200 miles?
Corsa-e for £12k only does 180 apparently so that's cutting it too close, otherwise would have just got one of them
Cheers
My commute is 90miles, but I'd like a car that can drive 200 miles on one charge (all year round) I'm case we have to charge my partners electric car one night, or the charger doesn't charge for some reason.
What's the cheapest electric car sub 50k miles that will do a reliable 200 miles?
Corsa-e for £12k only does 180 apparently so that's cutting it too close, otherwise would have just got one of them
Cheers
If that's 200 miles on the motorway, year round and you're wanting to spend as little as possible then the Kona is probably the best balance.
In my opinion, your fears of not charging randomly one night are making this a far harder process than it needs to be. In the unlikely event that this happens, surely you just call at a fast charger and give it a quick bit of juice. Yes charging on the DC chargers is relatively expensive but if it's very rarely used then it'll more than be made up by the saving on depreciation by being able to spend less on a car with a smaller battery pack.
In my opinion, your fears of not charging randomly one night are making this a far harder process than it needs to be. In the unlikely event that this happens, surely you just call at a fast charger and give it a quick bit of juice. Yes charging on the DC chargers is relatively expensive but if it's very rarely used then it'll more than be made up by the saving on depreciation by being able to spend less on a car with a smaller battery pack.
J1990 said:
If that's 200 miles on the motorway, year round and you're wanting to spend as little as possible then the Kona is probably the best balance.
In my opinion, your fears of not charging randomly one night are making this a far harder process than it needs to be. In the unlikely event that this happens, surely you just call at a fast charger and give it a quick bit of juice. Yes charging on the DC chargers is relatively expensive but if it's very rarely used then it'll more than be made up by the saving on depreciation by being able to spend less on a car with a smaller battery pack.
Yes that's good logic; thanks. My Mrs has an Ariya due in a couple of weeks so that'll be on the charger some nights. Maybe that can go on at the weekend as it has a massive battery and she doesn't do many miles.In my opinion, your fears of not charging randomly one night are making this a far harder process than it needs to be. In the unlikely event that this happens, surely you just call at a fast charger and give it a quick bit of juice. Yes charging on the DC chargers is relatively expensive but if it's very rarely used then it'll more than be made up by the saving on depreciation by being able to spend less on a car with a smaller battery pack.
It looks like a 64kw Kona isn't much more than the 50kw corsa, certainly much cheaper than the polestar anyway
It depends on how long you are going to keep your car. A lot on manufacturers state you shouldn't charge up to 100%, some say 90%, so the battery life isn't degraded. Motorway miles at 70mph speeds are the worst for EVs. I've recently watched the Autotrader video where Rory has a Tesla and that does 180 miles. So maybe something like a Long Range Tesla would do the job or something with a big battery.
End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
sjg said:
Realistically that's 250+ mile WLTP so Kona/Niro/Soul, ID.3, Model 3, maybe an early bigger battery Model S, all can be had under £15k. iPace just dropping to that point too.
ID3 100% won't do it in all conditions. Even in the summer you'd need to drive sensibly to guarantee 200 miles of mostly motorway driving. ChocolateFrog said:
sjg said:
Realistically that's 250+ mile WLTP so Kona/Niro/Soul, ID.3, Model 3, maybe an early bigger battery Model S, all can be had under £15k. iPace just dropping to that point too.
ID3 100% won't do it in all conditions. Even in the summer you'd need to drive sensibly to guarantee 200 miles of mostly motorway driving. Corsas don’t have a good reputation for motorway range - met a delivery driver a couple of years ago when charging somewhere or other and he was saying the range collapses in anything other than ideal conditions and at motorway speeds. He had experience of delivering a few and he really disliked them
bigmowley said:
ChocolateFrog said:
sjg said:
Realistically that's 250+ mile WLTP so Kona/Niro/Soul, ID.3, Model 3, maybe an early bigger battery Model S, all can be had under £15k. iPace just dropping to that point too.
ID3 100% won't do it in all conditions. Even in the summer you'd need to drive sensibly to guarantee 200 miles of mostly motorway driving. I think if you do 2.5 x usable battery capacity that will give you worst case range for most cars.
Our Leaf 62kWh is delivering about 3.7 miles/kW but it is certainly much poorer at motorway speeds. Think its down to 2.5-3 above 67mph
Haven't had it long enough to tell you what it will do in winter yet
It was an absolute bargain secondhand however and does almost everything needed on a daily basis
Haven't had it long enough to tell you what it will do in winter yet
It was an absolute bargain secondhand however and does almost everything needed on a daily basis
Ankh87 said:
It depends on how long you are going to keep your car. A lot on manufacturers state you shouldn't charge up to 100%, some say 90%, so the battery life isn't degraded. Motorway miles at 70mph speeds are the worst for EVs. I've recently watched the Autotrader video where Rory has a Tesla and that does 180 miles. So maybe something like a Long Range Tesla would do the job or something with a big battery.
End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
Drive an EV at 60 rather than 70. You won't lose that much in journey time.End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
Ankh87 said:
It depends on how long you are going to keep your car. A lot on manufacturers state you shouldn't charge up to 100%, some say 90%, so the battery life isn't degraded. Motorway miles at 70mph speeds are the worst for EVs. I've recently watched the Autotrader video where Rory has a Tesla and that does 180 miles. So maybe something like a Long Range Tesla would do the job or something with a big battery.
End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
Also, having the lights and wipers on uses negligible electric. Heat pump helps in the cold, but heated seats are best choice if you neglect the heating.End of the day during the colder times of the year you're going to need the heater, lights, wipers running. You shouldn't be having to think oh I best not leave that on because I won't get X miles. So a long range Tesla might be the best option.
Failing that maybe a something like a plug-in hybrid. Having just learned that the plug-ins will use the battery until out of juice, if you are able to keep charging up then you won't use much fuel.
You're pretty much in the same boat as me. I do a lot of miles and unless an EV can do easily 250 miles at motorway speeds in cold, rubbish conditions, then I'm stuck with diesel. Or I just sulk and buy a Tesla that I'm not fond of.
Maracus said:
Also, having the lights and wipers on uses negligible electric. Heat pump helps in the cold, but heated seats are best choice if you neglect the heating.
Best are heated seats, heated lower dashboard panels and heated armrests (centre and outer) - Heat the person, not the entire cabin! Pulse00 said:
Was going to by a Polestar 2 but not sure I want to spend the 22k on one.
My commute is 90miles, but I'd like a car that can drive 200 miles on one charge (all year round)
The Polestar 2 2021 twin motor is around 180 in the depths of winter (much lower if you are doing a lot of short trips).My commute is 90miles, but I'd like a car that can drive 200 miles on one charge (all year round)
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