Discussion
I’m coming from a history of Ferraris (most recently a 488) and looking at 600LT’s. Any of you made the swap?
Has to have exterior carbon 1 & 2 and lift. Ideally would like senna seats, exterior carbon 3 and wing louvres (but they aren’t must haves).
How do people find the differences in terms of sound and turbo lag?
Wondering where to start with offers. Do mclaren main dealers move much in price (I’m keen to have mclaren warranty)? Some real world examples of what you have achieved would be really helpful.
Has to have exterior carbon 1 & 2 and lift. Ideally would like senna seats, exterior carbon 3 and wing louvres (but they aren’t must haves).
How do people find the differences in terms of sound and turbo lag?
Wondering where to start with offers. Do mclaren main dealers move much in price (I’m keen to have mclaren warranty)? Some real world examples of what you have achieved would be really helpful.
I'd been looking at 488's before looking at Mclaren's. The engine isn't as responsive off the bottom end, however feels more responsive at the top end(650s).
from a 488, i'd be looking at a 720s or an Artura. 600LT is a great car though, a fair few for sale now on autotrader also.
from a 488, i'd be looking at a 720s or an Artura. 600LT is a great car though, a fair few for sale now on autotrader also.
Edited by Frankychops on Sunday 6th October 20:42
Chris355 said:
Wondering where to start with offers. Do mclaren main dealers move much in price (I’m keen to have mclaren warranty)? Some real world examples of what you have achieved would be really helpful.
Sorry no experience of Ferrari to Mclaren, but its very much a buyers market with anything above £80k at the moment, winter is approaching, theres quite a few on the market to boot, so i would be playing hardball with offers.Chris355 said:
I’m coming from a history of Ferraris (most recently a 488) and looking at 600LT’s. Any of you made the swap?
Has to have exterior carbon 1 & 2 and lift. Ideally would like senna seats, exterior carbon 3 and wing louvres (but they aren’t must haves).
How do people find the differences in terms of sound and turbo lag?
Wondering where to start with offers. Do mclaren main dealers move much in price (I’m keen to have mclaren warranty)? Some real world examples of what you have achieved would be really helpful.
Gibbo might be your man to ask, but the mclaren does have a little bit of old school lag followed by a massively hilarious thrust, proper giggle inducing.Has to have exterior carbon 1 & 2 and lift. Ideally would like senna seats, exterior carbon 3 and wing louvres (but they aren’t must haves).
How do people find the differences in terms of sound and turbo lag?
Wondering where to start with offers. Do mclaren main dealers move much in price (I’m keen to have mclaren warranty)? Some real world examples of what you have achieved would be really helpful.
I just changed from 20 years of Ferrari ownership, most recently a 15 year ownership of a Ferrari 360 Spider to a McLaren 600LT Spider a couple of months ago. Similarly, my "must have" list included as much visible carbon as possible and as track-focused interior as possible even tho I've no intentions of tracking it.... I just think it just looks "right". In a way I think I was trying to replicate the feelings I got 20 years ago from owning an s1 Exige with the VHPD engine. I ended up with a Spider with carbon packs 1,2,3 and clubsport pack, 5 spoke ultralight alloys, wing vents, Senna seats and the extended carbon interior. Pretty much exactly what I was looking for.
I was also looking at 488 Spiders. That would almost have been an easier choice as I was a bit more comfortable with Ferraris and the various spec and independent specialists and all that. But, I think the 600LT looks ace. I love the rear view, the huge diffuser, the top exit exhausts, the whole "race car on the road" look. I love the ott pops and bangs and cracks from the upshifts and downshifts. That's probably fairly superficial but personally I thought it just looked a bit more special next to the 488. The performance level of both cars are well beyond my envelope and on a totally different level to the 360. I needed a bit of mental gymnastics to get around factoring in the cost of an official warranty into the cost, having never felt that need with the Ferraris but having done that I'm ok with it.
I was also looking at 488 Spiders. That would almost have been an easier choice as I was a bit more comfortable with Ferraris and the various spec and independent specialists and all that. But, I think the 600LT looks ace. I love the rear view, the huge diffuser, the top exit exhausts, the whole "race car on the road" look. I love the ott pops and bangs and cracks from the upshifts and downshifts. That's probably fairly superficial but personally I thought it just looked a bit more special next to the 488. The performance level of both cars are well beyond my envelope and on a totally different level to the 360. I needed a bit of mental gymnastics to get around factoring in the cost of an official warranty into the cost, having never felt that need with the Ferraris but having done that I'm ok with it.
RBT0 said:
With all due respect, we should compare 600LT to 488 Pista, not a plain 488. Two different customer targets in my view.
Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
But in the real world (well, certainly my version of it) the budget sets the boundaries of what is getting compared. Obviously if we are playing hypotheticals or spending someone else’s money then that’s a different matter. Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
renmure said:
RBT0 said:
With all due respect, we should compare 600LT to 488 Pista, not a plain 488. Two different customer targets in my view.
Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
But in the real world (well, certainly my version of it) the budget sets the boundaries of what is getting compared. Obviously if we are playing hypotheticals or spending someone else’s money then that’s a different matter. Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
And yet Chris H. preferred the 600LT.
But of course it all depends on what you’re looking for.
I have a 458 Spider and a 720 Spider.
The McLaren is in a whole different league and is by far my favourite. The controls are proper waited rather than super light weight. It’s also proper laugh out loud bonkers.
You don’t get the noise but that turbo whoosh is pretty cool.
I’ve spent the weekend in the Ferrari and loved it. The. Lose and the hair trigger throttle.
But it’s still he Mcalren that wins which is why it’s done 5k. Lies this year.
The McLaren is in a whole different league and is by far my favourite. The controls are proper waited rather than super light weight. It’s also proper laugh out loud bonkers.
You don’t get the noise but that turbo whoosh is pretty cool.
I’ve spent the weekend in the Ferrari and loved it. The. Lose and the hair trigger throttle.
But it’s still he Mcalren that wins which is why it’s done 5k. Lies this year.
Don't know if of interest but this looks stunning
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
RBT0 said:
With all due respect, we should compare 600LT to 488 Pista, not a plain 488. Two different customer targets in my view.
Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
But in the real world (well, certainly my version of it) the budget sets the boundaries of what is getting compared. Obviously if we are playing hypotheticals or spending someone else’s money then that’s a different matter. Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
renmure said:
RBT0 said:
With all due respect, we should compare 600LT to 488 Pista, not a plain 488. Two different customer targets in my view.
Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
But in the real world (well, certainly my version of it) the budget sets the boundaries of what is getting compared. Obviously if we are playing hypotheticals or spending someone else’s money then that’s a different matter. Of course 600LT has more drama than a plain 488.
Bigger picture im looking at Huracan Spyder, 488 Spider and 600LT. I’m going to need to test drive a Huracan and 600LT as I have no experience in them, but I was curious about the views of people who had driven or owned them.
It’s an occasional car so practicalities don’t matter too much. I like a decent sound (I didn’t mind the 458 to 488 sound difference). I like direct steering and a really planted front end.
200Plus Club said:
Don't know if of interest but this looks stunning
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
200Plus Club said:
Don't know if of interest but this looks stunning
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
I really like that car but I think the price is a little high. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024080927...
They are a decent dealer albeit non franchise.
Chris355 said:
I really like that car but I think the price is a little high.
Might be worth keeping track, they do move cars on when they've been sat around a while.My research (and I had chats with JH and others) is there's generally £10k min margin for profit before tax/vat etc in any of the cars at this level.
JH tend to do mainly own stock plus some SOR at min £5k margin so it might be worth an enquiry in due course.
Chris355 said:
I asked for the comparison with the 488 GTB because that is what I just sold and am use to. If I had the available funds for a Pista (which I don’t), this wouldn’t be a conversation as it’s my favourite car.
Bigger picture im looking at Huracan Spyder, 488 Spider and 600LT. I’m going to need to test drive a Huracan and 600LT as I have no experience in them, but I was curious about the views of people who had driven or owned them.
It’s an occasional car so practicalities don’t matter too much. I like a decent sound (I didn’t mind the 458 to 488 sound difference). I like direct steering and a really planted front end.
If you at all sensitive to a wobbly chassis the 600lt is your only choice of the three. Steering, too. Regarding the front end, McLarens tend to favor early apex and powering out on exit. If you are pushing, you might find front end bite is the limiting factor, but still superior to the Italian heavies.Bigger picture im looking at Huracan Spyder, 488 Spider and 600LT. I’m going to need to test drive a Huracan and 600LT as I have no experience in them, but I was curious about the views of people who had driven or owned them.
It’s an occasional car so practicalities don’t matter too much. I like a decent sound (I didn’t mind the 458 to 488 sound difference). I like direct steering and a really planted front end.
Gassing Station | McLaren | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff