Just how good is the used warranty?

Just how good is the used warranty?

Author
Discussion

Benmac

Original Poster:

1,509 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
Hi all, I'm toying with selling my 458 for a 720S. I've "self warrantied" the Ferrari over the past year as the Ferrari used warranty is pretty poor, only covering the "big" stuff like the engine which are the bits on them that generally don't go wrong. It's actually away currently for a service and some work as it has some electrical gremlins. I'm happy I didn't fork out for the warranty this year as whatever that costs wouldn't have been covered.

So, my understanding is that the Mclaren equivalent warranty is far, far more comprehensive. Is that genuinely the case and should you need to call on it how decent are Mclaren and the dealers at honouring it or is there a lot of wriggling that leaves you with a bill after all?

For reference I'd be looking at a 2018 / 19 720s, preferably lowish but not so low you can't drive it mileage (or is that just a Ferrari ownership thing?).

davek_964

9,295 posts

182 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
I do think that the exclusions has grown a little on the McLaren warranty - or at least, they are stricter at enforcing it.

Overall I'd say it's pretty good though.

I had it for two years with my first McLaren. But I'd never bothered with warranties on previous Ferraris etc - and the 2 years proved I didn't need one on the McLaren either. So I didn't renew and don't have one on my current car either

Frankychops

981 posts

16 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
In my experience, the ferrari power 15 warranty is crap anyway.

Take it for an inspection(V-eng seem to be the current best and most balanced place). Enjoy the car!

Truffles

580 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
The Thorney warrenty is supposedly good.

Rocketreid

655 posts

79 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
It is actually reasonable, however the Insuring Underwriters have become more picky

The main advantage is if you have a good dealer relationship then the claim is more likely to be honoured.

Presumably they want the work and smooth the claims process

Just my experience and perhaps not everyone’s

JJ77

134 posts

55 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
Frankychops said:
In my experience, the ferrari power 15 warranty is crap anyway.

Take it for an inspection(V-eng seem to be the current best and most balanced place). Enjoy the car!
Yeah, what’s your Ferrari experience?

Frankychops

981 posts

16 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
JJ77 said:
Yeah, what’s your Ferrari experience?
a 458 warranty being no way near comprehensive, power 15, so basically the big mechanical parts and not all the bits that go wrong.

Frankychops

981 posts

16 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
Truffles said:
The Thorney warrenty is supposedly good.
£10k limit, all only valid if he decides its valid.

kevinpsw

136 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
Get the car inspected before you buy and self warranty would be my approach.

I self warranty my 12C. I put aside £3k a year for bills I hope will never arrive. So far, I have had three repairs at a total cost of £3.5k over 2.5 years (accumulators, air con condenser and a faulty soft close door latch). I’m not actually sure all three would have been covered even if I had paid for a warranty.

Benmac

Original Poster:

1,509 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th June
quotequote all
Thanks gents, useful stuff and gives me some ideas.

Agree on the Ferrari warranty, that’s why I self warrantied this year. The bits it covers (and even then I’ve known people have to fight to get it paid for) just aren’t the bits that break on them.

supersport

4,264 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
I self warranty my 458 too.

I’ve not needed the Mac warranty but am glad to have it. Got two years as part of the deal.

Not sure I would run one without, but only 7 months into ownership. But 3k miles in its been fine.

MMarkM

1,648 posts

178 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
My experience is not great, the only reason I bought my 720s from a MD was because of the warranty. I can't remember the name of the warranty company but my first claim they refused to pay out because they said the fault must have been there when Mac sold me the car. Mac said no it wasn't. So took a lot of back and forth to get a resolution, all the time sat in workshop. Eventually MD paid after I sad I wanted to return the car.

davek_964

9,295 posts

182 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
MMarkM said:
My experience is not great, the only reason I bought my 720s from a MD was because of the warranty. I can't remember the name of the warranty company but my first claim they refused to pay out because they said the fault must have been there when Mac sold me the car. Mac said no it wasn't. So took a lot of back and forth to get a resolution, all the time sat in workshop. Eventually MD paid after I sad I wanted to return the car.
The warranty company argument doesn't sound that unreasonable (depending on the fault of course) - they shouldn't have to cover pre existing faults and no warranty company would.
CRA should have put pressure on the dealer if it was in the first 6 months, since even that assumes the fault was present at the point of sale unless the dealer can prove otherwise.

Streetbeat

1,079 posts

83 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
Frankychops said:
£10k limit, all only valid if he decides its valid.
Is there any real world experience to suggest Thorney isnt standing by his warranties?

Grey_Area

4,115 posts

260 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
I'd not bother, my experience is even with client services involved, you are unlikely to get a positive action out of it.
For instance, two items failing at the same time accoding to both parties, is wear and tear... ok yeah, sure, whatever you say. it was eventually partially resolved, but thats not the point.
and on it goes, new modified GT hinges, great they'll never fail, until they do, and round we go again.

Save your money, self warranty....

TBCTBC

1,536 posts

96 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
Frankychops said:
£10k limit, all only valid if he decides its valid.
I think it’s a £10k limit because they can fix everything for that or less?

Their approach is to fix/rebuild where possible where as McLaren is replace, which is more expensive.

davek_964

9,295 posts

182 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
I'm not commenting on whether they do or do not stand by their warranty.

But if they could fix pretty much everything for £10k or less, they wouldn't need the limit at all.

Matty3

1,217 posts

91 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
No issues with my McWarranty - been very fair with what was covered (or not) to date. Will be renewing on expiry.

Frankychops

981 posts

16 months

Sunday 16th June
quotequote all
Streetbeat said:
Frankychops said:
£10k limit, all only valid if he decides its valid.
Is there any real world experience to suggest Thorney isnt standing by his warranties?
Have a look around...

My point is only that its not a warranty as such, its their willingness to repair upto '£10k'.

For what its worth, I think they're a sensible outfit. However they should give up making vids for youtube as it makes him come across in a particular way.

A good businessman though. Pay £££££'s to bring your car to his standards for sale(all at their say so), pay ££££'s to list it, then the new owner gets the chance to pay ££££'s to extend the warranty to 12 months. They've created a value chain, then owns every point.





MMarkM

1,648 posts

178 months

Monday 17th June
quotequote all
davek_964 said:
The warranty company argument doesn't sound that unreasonable (depending on the fault of course) - they shouldn't have to cover pre existing faults and no warranty company would.
CRA should have put pressure on the dealer if it was in the first 6 months, since even that assumes the fault was present at the point of sale unless the dealer can prove otherwise.
100% agree, that just made things worse. So my point was yes the MD should be liable for "X" period after purchase. SO the warranty should start after that "X" period not run concurrently along side it. Essentially reducing the length of the warranty until expensive renewal is due. Ultimately MD and warranty company both just watching their pockets first