Dimensions for door opening

Dimensions for door opening

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PJBTOV

Original Poster:

6 posts

205 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Hi there,

I currently have a BMW i8 coupe so I know how unconventional car doors can sometimes be awkward.

I am currently building a new garage and have door opening dimensions for an MP4 as I might get one to replace the BMW in the future. However, I am keen to future proof as much as possible, so would like to know if models subsequent to the MP4 need more or less space (both sideways and above).

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

johnnyreggae

2,988 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

there are more like this as I recall

samoht

6,086 posts

151 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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I believe these are the overall dimensions with mirrors and one door open, in mm.
Please correct if anyone knows differently.
I'm 99% sure there are no significant differences between body variants (S/C/GT/LT/Spider).

Model Length Width body Width folded mirrors Width open mirrors Width mirrors & 1 door Height doors open
12C 4509 1908 2093 2590 1892
650S 4512 1910 2093 2590 1892
570S 4530 1913 2045 2095 2660 1988
GT 4683 2045 2095 2691 1977
720S 4544 1930 2059 2161 2464 1953
Artura 4539 1913 1976 2080 2476 1954


Edit - standardised on width with mirrors and one door open, changing some figures.

Edited by samoht on Friday 28th July 18:07

andrew

10,053 posts

197 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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add on half a metre

it'll cost you less than a scrape and make life a lot easier

Nuttbelle

537 posts

15 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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andrew said:
add on half a metre

it'll cost you less than a scrape and make life a lot easier
Agree, can never have too much garage space and cars are getting bigger.
Go large or go home

PJBTOV

Original Poster:

6 posts

205 months

Friday 28th July 2023
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Thanks, this is really helpful, it's a second garage and I don't have unlimited space to make it as big as I would ideally like. Do you happen to know if the width figure takes into account the wing wirrors? Thanks again

samoht said:
I believe these are the overall dimensions with one door open, in mm.
Please correct if anyone knows differently.
I'm 99% sure there are no significant differences between body variants (S/C/GT/LT/Spider).

Model Width Height
12C 2591 1892
650S 2590 1892
570S 2660 1988
720S 2360 1953
GT 2691 1977
Artura 2423 1954

samoht

6,086 posts

151 months

Friday 28th July 2023
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PJBTOV said:
Do you happen to know if the width figure takes into account the wing wirrors? Thanks again
Good point, I've updated my original post and included mirrors in all the one door open figures.

Note that the mirrors question makes only a minor difference to actual width. The reason is that McLaren mirrors don't "fold" exactly, the mirror unit just pivots 90 degrees on its stalk. On my 570 for instance, it's 2095mm mirrors out, and only drops 5cm to 2045mm with them folded. So you save precisely one inch on each side - barely worth pressing the button wink

The above one-door-open widths are from the mirror on the passenger side to the extremity of the open driver's door opposite; obviously you want whatever margin you need between panelwork and brickwork on the passenger side, plus clearance to the door on the drivers'. It is possible to squeeze in without the door being fully open, but most people will need it not far off fully open to get in I reckon.

My garage has ~280cm of effective interior width, with a ~235cm wide door opening, and that's about right for the 570. It's helpful that the door is offset, so the extra width of the interior is nearly all on one side and thus useful for opening the door without needing to come in at an angle.

ex-devonpaul

1,259 posts

142 months

Saturday 29th July 2023
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samoht said:
My garage has ~280cm of effective interior width, with a ~235cm wide door opening, and that's about right for the 570. It's helpful that the door is offset, so the extra width of the interior is nearly all on one side and thus useful for opening the door without needing to come in at an angle.
I had mine built offset too. 2.4m door pushed to one side so I could get a bench and tool racks etc along one side and still plenty of room for a car, although mine is over 4m wide anyway.

What I did notice is it looked wrong on the drawing, so I had the ridge moved to match the centre of the doors (doord, not roller shutter), which them made the roof angles different on the 2 sides, so it limited the choice of coverings.

What I really wish is I'd made it longer, plenty of room for a car, but the row of garden equipment takes up room and another 2 feet would have allowed the garden furniture to come in for the winter.

Ken Figenus

5,770 posts

122 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Guys - how have you found this compared to previous cars in your garage? I can partially open my 2m wide current car's door until it touches the garage wall pad and swing myself out. Is that likely also to be the case with a Mc? Door probably opening 60cm further from car to wall. Thx

samoht

6,086 posts

151 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Ken Figenus said:
Guys - how have you found this compared to previous cars in your garage? I can partially open my 2m wide current car's door until it touches the garage wall pad and swing myself out. Is that likely also to be the case with a Mc? Door probably opening 60cm further from car to wall. Thx
I think the extra sideways clearance required beside the car to open the door fully is
720 30cm
Artura 40cm
12C/650 50cm
570 57cm
GT 60cm

Edit - reduced figures for 720 & Artura as had wrongly added mirrors

This is what a 570GT in a 280cm wide garage looks like, door is open fully, no issues getting in and out.


Edited by samoht on Monday 31st July 21:28

gazm

878 posts

249 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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samoht said:
I think the extra sideways clearance required beside the car to open the door fully is
720 41cm
Artura 45cm
12C/650 50cm
570 57cm
GT 60cm


This is what a 570GT in a 280cm wide garage looks like, door is open fully, no issues getting in and out.
really useful post - thanks!

Ken Figenus

5,770 posts

122 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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samoht said:
I think the extra sideways clearance required beside the car to open the door fully is
720 41cm
Artura 45cm
12C/650 50cm
570 57cm
GT 60cm


This is what a 570GT in a 280cm wide garage looks like, door is open fully, no issues getting in and out.
Nutshell. Mate, thanks!

JerryEXE

553 posts

104 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Here’s another couple of photos as an example, GT in this case





The orange strip in the centre is 40 cm, each black bay is 2m.

Ken Figenus

5,770 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I'm going to get away with this.... Thx

PJBTOV

Original Poster:

6 posts

205 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Really helpful everyone, thanks so much.

dave_Sw1

250 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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FYI coupe doors open tighter to the car than spider doors, i've had both in the tiniest garage you could imagine and managed just fine, (i do have carpet on the wall about waist height up to head height as that is where it would touch, and mine does touch occasionally but nothing that would be a problem on carpet. also have PPF on the doors if there ever was a problem but really they are quite tight opening doors