600 LT's with carbon louvred wings yet no carbon exterior?

[Gibbo205]

Hi there


I really like the MSO carbon louvre winged cars but the three for sale on the market:

https://www.harwoods.uk.com/mclaren/used-car-detai...

https://www.alastairbols.com/cars/mclaren-600lt-sp...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207248...


What I've noticed is these cars have no external carbon packs but they all say they feature unique gloss black exteriors and I also noticed there is no carpet in the car exposing the stunning carbon.

So was carbon external packs not an option on the MSO Louvred cars does anyone know and can anyone remember how much extra the louvres were from factory?

[mOrtt]

I'm not 100% sure but I thought the carbon options were;

Carbon Fibre Exterior Upgrade 1
Extended Side Intakes
Door Mirror Casings

Carbon Fibre Exterior Upgrade 2
Front Splitter with Integrated Twin Endplates
Side Skirts with Aero Winglets
Rear Bumper with Integrated Rear Diffuser
Side Rear Bumper Aero Fins
Rear Spoiler

Carbon Fibre Exterior Upgrade 3
Rear Deck with Integrated Exhaust Outlets
Exterior Door Inserts
Service Cover

Additionally
Carbon Fibre Sill Finishers
Carbon Fibre Switch Pack

And then you have the MSO Clubsport/Clubsport Pro Packs which included the front arch vents/louvres along with a few other options.

None of the 3 cars you linked to have the Clubsport Pack though so I assume the vents were available as a separte option too.

There was a coupe up for sale recently that had every carbon option (including the roof scoop) excluding the sill finishers

[tyrrell]

MSO Defined Gloss Carbon Fibre Front Fender Louvres £9,960.00 as a stand alone option.

It took me about six months to find the right spec car, I wanted 1,2,3 along with MSO club sport pack at £18,200.00 this gives you

MSO Clubsport pack
Super-lightweight carbon fibre racing seats ie Senna Seats
Carbon fibre interior upgrade
MSO Defined gloss finish visual carbon
fibre front fender louvres
Titanium wheel bolts with locking wheel bolts.

On a Spider a must for me was pack 3 as it gives you the carbon fibre rear wing and tonneau cover which look fantastic IMHO.

MSO Defined Gloss Finish Visual Carbon Fibre Exterior Upgrade 3 £12,400.00
Carbon fibre fixed rear wing with Matte Black heat shield
Carbon fibre rear deck with integrated exhaust outlets
Carbon fibre exterior door inserts Carbon fibre service cover Carbon fibre tonneau cover

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:14

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:14

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:16

[Gibbo205]

tyrrell said:

MSO Defined Gloss Carbon Fibre Front Fender Louvres £9,960.00 as a stand alone option.

It took me about six months to find the right spec car, I wanted 1,2,3 along with MSO club sport pack at £18,200.00 this gives you

MSO Clubsport pack
Super-lightweight carbon fibre racing seats ie Senna Seats
Carbon fibre interior upgrade
MSO Defined gloss finish visual carbon
fibre front fender louvres
Titanium wheel bolts with locking wheel bolts.

On a Spider a must for me was pack 3 as it gives you the carbon fibre rear wing and tonneau cover which look fantastic IMHO.

MSO Defined Gloss Finish Visual Carbon Fibre Exterior Upgrade 3 £12,400.00
Carbon fibre fixed rear wing with Matte Black heat shield
Carbon fibre rear deck with integrated exhaust outlets
Carbon fibre exterior door inserts Carbon fibre service cover Carbon fibre tonneau cover

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:14

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:14

Edited by tyrrell on Tuesday 30th August 17:16

Sounds like a stunning example, got some pictures you can post of your car please?

[tyrrell]

I’ve got a few

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[tyrrell]

Sorry there not that good, I need to go and take some good ones.

[tyrrell]

[RBT0]

I’d say cars with carbon fender louvres but no carbon packs smell wrong.

Who on earth would not spec carbon packs but then spec fenders?

There were no constraints in terms of spec, so either cars built by McLaren with run out parts or odd part swap or stupid customer spec (sorry not sorry).

I’d watch out for long term resell value for these….

Interesting to note as well I haven’t seen a whatever orange car for sale for ages…..

Who’s got it keeps it? Me included?

[tyrrell]

Yes towards the end there were quite a few pars bin specials offered on the famous pcp deal, not all mind. I remember McLaren London had a yellow spider in stock for about two years, again not a brilliant spec that’s why it hung around for a long time.

[Gibbo205]

Tyrrel your car is stunning, great buy, what colour is it please?

RBTO what is this orange car you speak off?

It is odd that the current Louvre cars for sale have no exterior carbon, but at the same time they don’t seem to have dark palladium finish but gloss black, the green was at new forest is a 70 plate so maybe was a parts bin car and is said to have the MSO black pack option along with MSO louvres and MSO extended sills.

The gloss black does actually look very nice but like people say here is not very desirable as they’d have it a while plus the brake disc look to have some wear not as bad as some I’ve seen, does look a nice car though.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Tuesday 30th August 21:43

[tyrrell]

Gibbons205 it’s an elite colour called lime green, it was the launch colour for the 600Lt Spider, the MSO gloss finish is actually painted carbon fibre, so a little lighter than the standard Palladium plastic.

[BlackR8]

Gibbo205 said:

Tyrrel your car is stunning, great buy, what colour is it please?

RBTO what is this orange car you speak off?

It is odd that the current Louvre cars for sale have no exterior carbon, but at the same time they don’t seem to have dark palladium finish but gloss black, the green was at new forest is a 70 plate so maybe was a parts bin car and is said to have the MSO black pack option along with MSO louvres and MSO extended sills.

The gloss black does actually look very nice but like people say here is not very desirable as they’d have it a while plus the brake disc look to have some wear not as bad as some I’ve seen, does look a nice car though.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Tuesday 30th August 21:43

The brake discs point is an interesting one. I have seen many McLarens with very low mileage having discs which look pretty worn to the eye (dull inconsistent appearance and a very rough looking surface) Vs say Porsche or Lamborghini CCBs which always seem to have a shiny smooth appearance despite higher miles. Is this just a manufacturer thing where one brand CCBs shows wear different to others?

[tyrrell]

[tyrrell]

I had a 720S track pack, which I bought from a McLaren dealer at a year old with 1500 miles on the clock, it was supplied with new disks and pads along with brand new tyres.

I did find out later it had an interesting history having been it a Hollywood block buster movie.

[Gibbo205]

tyrrell said:

Gibbons205 it’s an elite colour called lime green, it was the launch colour for the 600Lt Spider, the MSO gloss finish is actually painted carbon fibre, so a little lighter than the standard Palladium plastic.

That is really good to know, so does that mean this car:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208048...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207248...


Both seem to mention MSO black pack.

Does that mean these two cars have carbon external packs 1, 2 and 3 but the carbon is painted gloss black?

If the case that is good to know, any thoughts from yourself on the two cars or does anyone know any history on these cars please?

[Gibbo205]

BlackR8 said:

The brake discs point is an interesting one. I have seen many McLarens with very low mileage having discs which look pretty worn to the eye (dull inconsistent appearance and a very rough looking surface) Vs say Porsche or Lamborghini CCBs which always seem to have a shiny smooth appearance despite higher miles. Is this just a manufacturer thing where one brand CCBs shows wear different to others?

McLaren New Forest have three cars:

Red Spider comfort pack with 17k miles - the brakes look new and they confirm they sold this car new to its current owner and has done no track work to their knowledge, the brake condition would seem to confirm this, looks a superb condition car and is very well priced due to high miles but most likely easy miles.

The orange spider they have I tracked down it’s original owner who confirmed track use and the brakes on this car look heavily worn and it’s done less miles at 12k

The green car at 9k miles and a whopping 175k brakes look a little worn so maybe some track miles.


It seems the brakes wear quick with track work but are fine with road driving, as McLaren will charge you around 20k for new brakes it seems a big area of caution they should be smooth and not pitted if in good condition. If they are rough and appear pitted they are more worn so either avoid or use to get
Price down or new brakes fitted as part of the deal.

Anyone considering track work should maybe consider steel options or a set of surface transforms.

[tyrrell]

The MSO black pack was just marketed as a black pack, lots of the later cars had this fitted. We all assume that it’s painted carbon fibre underneath, until someone proves otherwise.

I love the Napier Green car at Mcforest, it’s my favourite McLaren colour so I am biased.