570S outgoing ... Perf/720S replacement?
Discussion
After a very enjoyable summer in my 570S Spider I've now decided to move it on. Partially due to not having an empty garage to keep it in over the winter but mainly due to the lack of use it's getting at the moment. This was an entry-level point for me into the world of McL and I have not been disappointed. Few little niggles during ownership but all covered under warranty with no issues. The car has been superb but now has me pondering over my next choice. I was originally thinking of going in to a Huracan Perf next Spring but I am now leaning towards a 720S Spider. Has anyone owned both and could offer a comparison?
Two relatively different cars, but are right to consider both as they both probably tick a lot of boxes, both IMO are bargains for what they are, try both.
They are both offensively quick, very capable, cost a lot to run, arguably unpractical and will give you a semi every time you hop in.
The noise, NA, styling, reliability, more stable values and track orientation won me over and I brought a Perf.
They are both offensively quick, very capable, cost a lot to run, arguably unpractical and will give you a semi every time you hop in.
The noise, NA, styling, reliability, more stable values and track orientation won me over and I brought a Perf.
RBT0 said:
Well, Performante has same performance as 570S, but lot more of driving engagement (vs 570S).
720S has far superior performance.
That's a very broad statement which is very much incorrect. As far as I am aware the 720S is marginally quicker in a straight line at quarter miles (~120MPH+) and above whilst the the Perf takes the track and traffic light to traffic light crown.720S has far superior performance.
Both get bonus points for picking up women at wine bars on the spider versions.
Ones a track focused car, one isn't and they are 20/25% difference in cost. This is why you need to try both.
So I currently own a 720s Spider, and my previous car was a Huracan Evo RWD. That's not the Performante, strictly, but it's not a long way off.
Here's my take:
- The 720s is quicker than anything out there, by a country mile. Sure, the 0-60 time is impressive. But it's how it demolishes 60-160 that'll really have your jaw hit the floor. It's just unimaginably, nay, incomprehensibly quick. To really appreciate that, however, you need to take it on track. It'll bomb round Silverstone faster than any other car on virtually any track day there, and it'll do it without breaking into a hint of a sweat. Hangar Straight at 170mph? No problem. Where most supercars feel like you're asking a lot of them when punishing them round a track, the 720s takes it all in its stride. The performance is incomparable.
- The Spider version of the 720s adds a level of involvement and immediacy, and a soundscape to delight the senses, that the Coupe lacks. I've never been a fan of convertibles, but for the 720s it's plain brilliant, and dropping the roof (or just the rear glass) provides a confident answer to all those who question whether driving a 720s provides enough of a sense of occasion.
- With all that, the 720s is also incredibly comfortable and practical. It has great visibility, ample luggage space, a compliant ride in comfort mode... no compromises on daily usability whatsoever
- The Huracan Evo RWD, meanwhile, has palpably less performance (zero comparison), it is laughably impractical (zero luggage space, unforgiving ride, zero visibility, to the point where you can't see the traffic lights changing without twisting your neck), the steering feels like what you'd get from a computer game (zero feedback), and people look at you like you're a pretentious Gangsta Rapper (regrettably more judgment than love out there when you drive a Lambo).
- However: the sense of occasion you get from firing up that Lambo V10 is simply without equal. Yes the 720s Spider does a great job of celebrating the moment. But the Lambo's engine produces sounds and involvement and a surge that are just plain sublime. You really feel like you're sat astride an almighty beast of a machine when you drive it, and you hear every mechanical cog clicking into gear. It makes for an incredible experience, even plodding along at 40mph in town... in a way that the McLaren simply doesn't below 120mph. And: the Huracan is just achingly beautiful to look at. Hands down the most gorgeous car on the market.
So it really depends what you're after. If it is performance, especially at speed, the right answer is unquestionably the 720s. If it is practicality, usability, and not having people think you're a knob, the answer is also the 720s. If you want something beautiful to behold, and something that'll make you feel amazing just driving down to the shops (even if that is at the expense of hatred from your neighbours), the answer is the Huracan.
A question of style vs performance (substance?), I guess, but with zero judgment either way. It's just down to what matters to you more.
Hope that helps.
Here's my take:
- The 720s is quicker than anything out there, by a country mile. Sure, the 0-60 time is impressive. But it's how it demolishes 60-160 that'll really have your jaw hit the floor. It's just unimaginably, nay, incomprehensibly quick. To really appreciate that, however, you need to take it on track. It'll bomb round Silverstone faster than any other car on virtually any track day there, and it'll do it without breaking into a hint of a sweat. Hangar Straight at 170mph? No problem. Where most supercars feel like you're asking a lot of them when punishing them round a track, the 720s takes it all in its stride. The performance is incomparable.
- The Spider version of the 720s adds a level of involvement and immediacy, and a soundscape to delight the senses, that the Coupe lacks. I've never been a fan of convertibles, but for the 720s it's plain brilliant, and dropping the roof (or just the rear glass) provides a confident answer to all those who question whether driving a 720s provides enough of a sense of occasion.
- With all that, the 720s is also incredibly comfortable and practical. It has great visibility, ample luggage space, a compliant ride in comfort mode... no compromises on daily usability whatsoever
- The Huracan Evo RWD, meanwhile, has palpably less performance (zero comparison), it is laughably impractical (zero luggage space, unforgiving ride, zero visibility, to the point where you can't see the traffic lights changing without twisting your neck), the steering feels like what you'd get from a computer game (zero feedback), and people look at you like you're a pretentious Gangsta Rapper (regrettably more judgment than love out there when you drive a Lambo).
- However: the sense of occasion you get from firing up that Lambo V10 is simply without equal. Yes the 720s Spider does a great job of celebrating the moment. But the Lambo's engine produces sounds and involvement and a surge that are just plain sublime. You really feel like you're sat astride an almighty beast of a machine when you drive it, and you hear every mechanical cog clicking into gear. It makes for an incredible experience, even plodding along at 40mph in town... in a way that the McLaren simply doesn't below 120mph. And: the Huracan is just achingly beautiful to look at. Hands down the most gorgeous car on the market.
So it really depends what you're after. If it is performance, especially at speed, the right answer is unquestionably the 720s. If it is practicality, usability, and not having people think you're a knob, the answer is also the 720s. If you want something beautiful to behold, and something that'll make you feel amazing just driving down to the shops (even if that is at the expense of hatred from your neighbours), the answer is the Huracan.
A question of style vs performance (substance?), I guess, but with zero judgment either way. It's just down to what matters to you more.
Hope that helps.
RankAmateur said:
So I currently own a 720s Spider, and my previous car was a Huracan Evo RWD. That's not the Performante, strictly, but it's not a long way off.
Here's my take:
- The 720s is quicker than anything out there, by a country mile. Sure, the 0-60 time is impressive. But it's how it demolishes 60-160 that'll really have your jaw hit the floor. It's just unimaginably, nay, incomprehensibly quick. To really appreciate that, however, you need to take it on track. It'll bomb round Silverstone faster than any other car on virtually any track day there, and it'll do it without breaking into a hint of a sweat. Hangar Straight at 170mph? No problem. Where most supercars feel like you're asking a lot of them when punishing them round a track, the 720s takes it all in its stride. The performance is incomparable.
- The Spider version of the 720s adds a level of involvement and immediacy, and a soundscape to delight the senses, that the Coupe lacks. I've never been a fan of convertibles, but for the 720s it's plain brilliant, and dropping the roof (or just the rear glass) provides a confident answer to all those who question whether driving a 720s provides enough of a sense of occasion.
- With all that, the 720s is also incredibly comfortable and practical. It has great visibility, ample luggage space, a compliant ride in comfort mode... no compromises on daily usability whatsoever
- The Huracan Evo RWD, meanwhile, has palpably less performance (zero comparison), it is laughably impractical (zero luggage space, unforgiving ride, zero visibility, to the point where you can't see the traffic lights changing without twisting your neck), the steering feels like what you'd get from a computer game (zero feedback), and people look at you like you're a pretentious Gangsta Rapper (regrettably more judgment than love out there when you drive a Lambo).
- However: the sense of occasion you get from firing up that Lambo V10 is simply without equal. Yes the 720s Spider does a great job of celebrating the moment. But the Lambo's engine produces sounds and involvement and a surge that are just plain sublime. You really feel like you're sat astride an almighty beast of a machine when you drive it, and you hear every mechanical cog clicking into gear. It makes for an incredible experience, even plodding along at 40mph in town... in a way that the McLaren simply doesn't below 120mph. And: the Huracan is just achingly beautiful to look at. Hands down the most gorgeous car on the market.
So it really depends what you're after. If it is performance, especially at speed, the right answer is unquestionably the 720s. If it is practicality, usability, and not having people think you're a knob, the answer is also the 720s. If you want something beautiful to behold, and something that'll make you feel amazing just driving down to the shops (even if that is at the expense of hatred from your neighbours), the answer is the Huracan.
A question of style vs performance (substance?), I guess, but with zero judgment either way. It's just down to what matters to you more.
Hope that helps.
W00t! I'm a knob Here's my take:
- The 720s is quicker than anything out there, by a country mile. Sure, the 0-60 time is impressive. But it's how it demolishes 60-160 that'll really have your jaw hit the floor. It's just unimaginably, nay, incomprehensibly quick. To really appreciate that, however, you need to take it on track. It'll bomb round Silverstone faster than any other car on virtually any track day there, and it'll do it without breaking into a hint of a sweat. Hangar Straight at 170mph? No problem. Where most supercars feel like you're asking a lot of them when punishing them round a track, the 720s takes it all in its stride. The performance is incomparable.
- The Spider version of the 720s adds a level of involvement and immediacy, and a soundscape to delight the senses, that the Coupe lacks. I've never been a fan of convertibles, but for the 720s it's plain brilliant, and dropping the roof (or just the rear glass) provides a confident answer to all those who question whether driving a 720s provides enough of a sense of occasion.
- With all that, the 720s is also incredibly comfortable and practical. It has great visibility, ample luggage space, a compliant ride in comfort mode... no compromises on daily usability whatsoever
- The Huracan Evo RWD, meanwhile, has palpably less performance (zero comparison), it is laughably impractical (zero luggage space, unforgiving ride, zero visibility, to the point where you can't see the traffic lights changing without twisting your neck), the steering feels like what you'd get from a computer game (zero feedback), and people look at you like you're a pretentious Gangsta Rapper (regrettably more judgment than love out there when you drive a Lambo).
- However: the sense of occasion you get from firing up that Lambo V10 is simply without equal. Yes the 720s Spider does a great job of celebrating the moment. But the Lambo's engine produces sounds and involvement and a surge that are just plain sublime. You really feel like you're sat astride an almighty beast of a machine when you drive it, and you hear every mechanical cog clicking into gear. It makes for an incredible experience, even plodding along at 40mph in town... in a way that the McLaren simply doesn't below 120mph. And: the Huracan is just achingly beautiful to look at. Hands down the most gorgeous car on the market.
So it really depends what you're after. If it is performance, especially at speed, the right answer is unquestionably the 720s. If it is practicality, usability, and not having people think you're a knob, the answer is also the 720s. If you want something beautiful to behold, and something that'll make you feel amazing just driving down to the shops (even if that is at the expense of hatred from your neighbours), the answer is the Huracan.
A question of style vs performance (substance?), I guess, but with zero judgment either way. It's just down to what matters to you more.
Hope that helps.
RA is pretty spot on and refreshing to see the time taken rather than just "X is faster"
One thing I will add, the "normal" H and Evo are very different to the Perf. They are harder to live with, noisier, the feedback is there (especially with buckets) and I think because its not a "footballer" or "TOWIE" version the pretentious Gangsta Rapper view gets over looked because its a "proper one" - not because Joe blogs can tell but "coz its got a Italian stripe on blud", certainly enthusiasts view it differently and at meets you generally find more Perf's than normal ones. One downside is (trivial at first but tiresome) is you literally cannot go anywhere without someone approaching you to talk about it - Its normally to ask why it has a damn great big spoiler and Italian stripe followed with how fast you have been in it, what it cost and what you do for a living.
Trying not to be detrimental, but I just see Lambos as a one trick pony; the noise.
I stuck a stage 3 capristo on a Ferrari a few years back and whilst it sounded amazing and like an old school F1 car on full chat, after an hour I was always fed up with it and wanted out of it.
I find that I can go all day long in a McLaren even in the P1 carbon buckets and still get out at the other end refreshed, and knowing that you are in a ballistic missile that is one of the quickest cars on the road.
The spiders just make it better with 2 cars for the price of one with the bonus of dropping the rear window.
I stuck a stage 3 capristo on a Ferrari a few years back and whilst it sounded amazing and like an old school F1 car on full chat, after an hour I was always fed up with it and wanted out of it.
I find that I can go all day long in a McLaren even in the P1 carbon buckets and still get out at the other end refreshed, and knowing that you are in a ballistic missile that is one of the quickest cars on the road.
The spiders just make it better with 2 cars for the price of one with the bonus of dropping the rear window.
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