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I'm still looking for a 570s spider, but aware I may have to compromise on my ideal spec somewhat. What are people's views on the desirability of various options? Car is to be used for high days, holidays, long road trips and sometimes commuting. Likely to have the car for ~5 years.
My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
Marks out of 10 for your option choices from my experience of 570 and 600:
10 - Lift as it's very helpful, they are quite low at the front with a fair overhang.
8 - Carbon is almost a must in my opinion.
5 - Bowes & Wilkins is very good but I never listen to music, I have an LT and it's too loud
6 - Sports exhaust is easy to fit an aftermarket option. Standard exhausts aren't that quiet.
9 - PPF, my car would be a mess on the front and sides without PPF, really needed, also get the Sliplo pads for under the front spoiler.
4 - Soft close doors, nice but a luxury not needed
1 - Paladium roof, take it or leave it.
Problem is there's limited choice of cars out there so you won't have many to choose from, most Spiders have a good spec from what I've seen on the market in the last year or two.
10 - Lift as it's very helpful, they are quite low at the front with a fair overhang.
8 - Carbon is almost a must in my opinion.
5 - Bowes & Wilkins is very good but I never listen to music, I have an LT and it's too loud
6 - Sports exhaust is easy to fit an aftermarket option. Standard exhausts aren't that quiet.
9 - PPF, my car would be a mess on the front and sides without PPF, really needed, also get the Sliplo pads for under the front spoiler.
4 - Soft close doors, nice but a luxury not needed
1 - Paladium roof, take it or leave it.
Problem is there's limited choice of cars out there so you won't have many to choose from, most Spiders have a good spec from what I've seen on the market in the last year or two.
I'm somebody who doesn't really care what the "must have" options are - there are some that are important to me, and I make sure the car has them. The rest doesn't interest me, and if that means a smaller pool of buyers - then so be it.
Interior carbon pack - My 650 has this, although I don't believe I have the larger paddles (not that I miss them) so maybe the option has changed slightly since my car was made. Although I'm not a huge fan of carbon generally - I do think it's essential on the interior.
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - I don't have it in my 650 - I admit I miss the premium audio of the Aston I had before - but that is the only car I've owned which had a really decent sound system. I find the stock one OK, certainly enough that I wouldn't pay to upgrade it
Sports exhaust - Mine has it, and a couple of weeks ago I heard a 570 which I assume didn't. It sounded awful!
Ditto ppf - I added PPF to mine (reluctantly) just over a year ago - wouldn't be without it now.
Soft-close doors - Had mine fitted last summer. Nice to have, but recently I've got a bit fed up with closing the doors gently and waiting for them to pull in, and started shutting them properly again!
Palladium roof - Meh
Lift - This is essential as far as I was concerned. It removes worry in so many places - and I need it far more than I expected (maybe 570 it's less of an issue). If I had to choose one single one of my options and lose the rest - this is the one I'd keep.
Other carbon packs - I'm the same, but many people will tell you that you're buying a car you'll never sell again unless it's got carbon everything, including tyres and windows...........
I have comfort entry / exit (seats only, not the steering) which is nice but not really a must have
Interior carbon pack - My 650 has this, although I don't believe I have the larger paddles (not that I miss them) so maybe the option has changed slightly since my car was made. Although I'm not a huge fan of carbon generally - I do think it's essential on the interior.
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - I don't have it in my 650 - I admit I miss the premium audio of the Aston I had before - but that is the only car I've owned which had a really decent sound system. I find the stock one OK, certainly enough that I wouldn't pay to upgrade it
Sports exhaust - Mine has it, and a couple of weeks ago I heard a 570 which I assume didn't. It sounded awful!
Ditto ppf - I added PPF to mine (reluctantly) just over a year ago - wouldn't be without it now.
Soft-close doors - Had mine fitted last summer. Nice to have, but recently I've got a bit fed up with closing the doors gently and waiting for them to pull in, and started shutting them properly again!
Palladium roof - Meh
Lift - This is essential as far as I was concerned. It removes worry in so many places - and I need it far more than I expected (maybe 570 it's less of an issue). If I had to choose one single one of my options and lose the rest - this is the one I'd keep.
Other carbon packs - I'm the same, but many people will tell you that you're buying a car you'll never sell again unless it's got carbon everything, including tyres and windows...........
I have comfort entry / exit (seats only, not the steering) which is nice but not really a must have
xcentric said:
I'm still looking for a 570s spider, but aware I may have to compromise on my ideal spec somewhat. What are people's views on the desirability of various options? Car is to be used for high days, holidays, long road trips and sometimes commuting. Likely to have the car for ~5 years.
My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
You will absolutely love this car. Find the highest spec car with the most options. As with most endeavors in life, patience is a virtue. If you plan to keep the car for five years the additional cost will be negligible. Personally, I wouldn't consider a vehicle without front lift, B&W upgrade or carbon package. PPF is another add on that protects the paint...the cost is not insignificant so a car with it is much more desirable, in my view. Mine has titanium exhaust which is great, but might be akin to trying to find a chicken that can pee.My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
Here's a copy of my window sticker for reference.
Edited by Swift93 on Wednesday 28th July 14:39
Depends where you live, for me the nose lift is a must. I’ve been on parts of road where I’ve not needed to use the lift in say a 911 or 458 but then you hear that nasty sound as the nose scrapes when going over the bump in the mclaren.
Soft close doors is more a must have for passenger side in reality. In practice you as the driver will soon have a feel for the door but passengers tend to over slam so the soft close protects against that.
A good quality PPF makes for easier maintenance and protects against swirl marks, scratches, stone chips, etc.
I don’t bother with upgrading the sound system any more. I’ve learned lesson on always regretting paying £thousands for sound system upgrade as standard is good enough for my needs / ears and
Soft close doors is more a must have for passenger side in reality. In practice you as the driver will soon have a feel for the door but passengers tend to over slam so the soft close protects against that.
A good quality PPF makes for easier maintenance and protects against swirl marks, scratches, stone chips, etc.
I don’t bother with upgrading the sound system any more. I’ve learned lesson on always regretting paying £thousands for sound system upgrade as standard is good enough for my needs / ears and
After buying a 570s this year and being in a similar boat, my thoughts would be:
Interior carbon pack a bare minimum, a lot of the lower optioned cars i saw advertised 3+ months ago are still for sale.
I really wanted B&W option and i ended up with base 4 speaker, its actually fine, not unhappy at all and dont consider a deal breaker
Sports exhaust option, from experience this week, mine had the sports exhaust as an option, but bought a std exhaust for quiter track days, really not much in it, sports exhaust 99db at Combe static, std exhaust 98db at Goodwood static, both a the 4k soft limiter. Very easy to swap and plenty available aftermarket or 2nd hand on ebay, definitely not a deal breaker.
PPF, easy done at about a 2k cost for a track pack ppf (not full ppf), definitely not a deal breaker
Sodt close doors, nice on the option for aftersale, not a deal breaker, can be retro fitted as above
Palladium roof, wrapped if it really bothers you or sprayed in palladium, not a deal breaker
Lift would be a deal breaker for me, not because i use it that much but the next owner will want it optioned, to be fair, didnt see many without.
Other carbon packs as point 1, the more the better for resale, any high spec carbon optioned cars i saw usually commanded top prices and sold very quickly, but it shouldnt be a deal breaker as long as it has min inside carbon
The biggest deal breaker for me was colour, regardless of spec, i know colours are very individual, but some of the base colours white/black/met greys hung around for ages, think a couple are still for sale now.
Interior carbon pack a bare minimum, a lot of the lower optioned cars i saw advertised 3+ months ago are still for sale.
I really wanted B&W option and i ended up with base 4 speaker, its actually fine, not unhappy at all and dont consider a deal breaker
Sports exhaust option, from experience this week, mine had the sports exhaust as an option, but bought a std exhaust for quiter track days, really not much in it, sports exhaust 99db at Combe static, std exhaust 98db at Goodwood static, both a the 4k soft limiter. Very easy to swap and plenty available aftermarket or 2nd hand on ebay, definitely not a deal breaker.
PPF, easy done at about a 2k cost for a track pack ppf (not full ppf), definitely not a deal breaker
Sodt close doors, nice on the option for aftersale, not a deal breaker, can be retro fitted as above
Palladium roof, wrapped if it really bothers you or sprayed in palladium, not a deal breaker
Lift would be a deal breaker for me, not because i use it that much but the next owner will want it optioned, to be fair, didnt see many without.
Other carbon packs as point 1, the more the better for resale, any high spec carbon optioned cars i saw usually commanded top prices and sold very quickly, but it shouldnt be a deal breaker as long as it has min inside carbon
The biggest deal breaker for me was colour, regardless of spec, i know colours are very individual, but some of the base colours white/black/met greys hung around for ages, think a couple are still for sale now.
Crazy4557 said:
9 - PPF, my car would be a mess on the front and sides without PPF, really needed, also get the Sliplo pads for under the front spoiler.
Not come across Sliplo before, but looking at their website Sliplo said:
Fits Most Standard Cars, Trucks, and SUVs
Would have to be one hell of a curb or ramp to catch the bumper of a Truck or SUV r o n n i e said:
Soft close doors is more a must have for passenger side in reality. In practice you as the driver will soon have a feel for the door but passengers tend to over slam so the soft close protects against that.
Very true - in fact, the reason I had soft close fitted is because I got annoyed with the new g/f slamming the passenger door.....thanks for the inputs - keep them coming!
Lift is a good call - a previous 911 had the GT styling pack with was a pita as it scraped everywhere. Necessary for ferry/Eurotunnel?
Sound is clearly a mixed bag for people - if anyone has directly compared I'd be pleased to hear experiences - a few more cars are coming onto the used market but at the moment most have the standard stereo and I'm working out if waiting for the better one is a worthwhile wait....
Lift is a good call - a previous 911 had the GT styling pack with was a pita as it scraped everywhere. Necessary for ferry/Eurotunnel?
Sound is clearly a mixed bag for people - if anyone has directly compared I'd be pleased to hear experiences - a few more cars are coming onto the used market but at the moment most have the standard stereo and I'm working out if waiting for the better one is a worthwhile wait....
xcentric said:
Sound is clearly a mixed bag for people - if anyone has directly compared I'd be pleased to hear experiences - a few more cars are coming onto the used market but at the moment most have the standard stereo and I'm working out if waiting for the better one is a worthwhile wait....
Edit, sorry thought you meant exhaust, if you are near the south coast Dorset you would be more than happy to hear thye std 4 speaker for refxcentric said:
I'm still looking for a 570s spider, but aware I may have to compromise on my ideal spec somewhat. What are people's views on the desirability of various options? Car is to be used for high days, holidays, long road trips and sometimes commuting. Likely to have the car for ~5 years.
My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
Don't get hung up on the B&W.........I didn't have it on my 570s.........I have it on my 600LT............can't tell the difference and wouldn't spec B&W from new if I were to do it again.My current thoughts are:
Interior carbon pack - necessary as the larger paddles are much better
Bowes & Wilkins upgraded audio - almost as necessary as the standard one is only ok and for longer motorway bits a decent stereo is ideal. Interested in alternative opinions especially here (have seen 2 recent cars without it) and/or aftermarket options
Sports exhaust - idea if it has it but easy to add afterwards.
Ditto ppf
Soft-close doors - nice to have but not a deal breaker
Palladium roof - ditto
Lift - not bothered
Other carbon packs - not bothered (prefer scuffable front splitter than a jewelled one....)
Views, especially contrary ones, welcomed.
I've never used Lift on any of my McLarens in the last six years. I'd buy one without it but it seems it's essential for others.......
Lift would be a must for me. It has saved me a few times when out for a run and you meet some speed bumps etc.
Interior carbon for the extended paddles are much much nicer. I also have the B&W upgrade and for long journeys is very helpful. Sounds fine, not exactly hifi but sounds decent.
The rest is individual preference.
Hope you find what you are after.
Interior carbon for the extended paddles are much much nicer. I also have the B&W upgrade and for long journeys is very helpful. Sounds fine, not exactly hifi but sounds decent.
The rest is individual preference.
Hope you find what you are after.
If you are lucky, patient and a skilled negotiator then you will get what you want at the spec and price you desire and the seller is super grateful you came and took it off their hands.
I’m none of those. I took the approach (having had previous bad experience on a 911 buy many years ago) that I would only buy from main dealer or independents of irrefutable repute (they do exist) and get a car that had right sorta miles and history of ownership. Most important was a lift as I live in a road of Everest sized speed humps. Second was colour then everything else was is a bonus. In my specific circumstance (didn’t want the drugs to wear off from the misses and my permission slip get rescinded) I was happy to let exterior carbon slide and persuade myself if it really meant so much I could buy it later. So i did and I did and I pick up a 570s spider in Ventura orange from Alastair Bolls on Friday.
I’m none of those. I took the approach (having had previous bad experience on a 911 buy many years ago) that I would only buy from main dealer or independents of irrefutable repute (they do exist) and get a car that had right sorta miles and history of ownership. Most important was a lift as I live in a road of Everest sized speed humps. Second was colour then everything else was is a bonus. In my specific circumstance (didn’t want the drugs to wear off from the misses and my permission slip get rescinded) I was happy to let exterior carbon slide and persuade myself if it really meant so much I could buy it later. So i did and I did and I pick up a 570s spider in Ventura orange from Alastair Bolls on Friday.
Very nice, and a good attitude. I've got Alistair on my list of appropriate people who are looking out for me, so you got in earlier with him than I did I'm sure, else I'd have been all over that one. If you have the advert and are happy to pm or email it to me, please do, I'd love to see it.
I got mine a few weeks ago and was lucky to spot it before it was widely advertised.
I really wanted the main constituents of the lux and security packs, although the security pack (lift, camera/ F/R parking sensors and cover) were the really important ones for me (apart from the cover!). Lecky seats was a must for me as well purely because I have back issues and it's useful to be able to easily change settings without losing the "ideal" configuration. The fact they came as part of the lux pack, with B&W and soft close, was a welcome bonus.
I haven't listened to the standard audio at length but have compared eight-speaker with my B&W and although the latter is better it's not night and day. Some don't like the look of the nautilus tweeter atop the dash but I quite like it and I also think the B&W door speakers look much better.
The basic carbon interior is quite important I think. Not just because of the paddles but the centre console and screen surround look much classier than the standard plastic.
Many consider alcantara interior a must. Mine's got full leather but I'm not overly bothered, although I may get the seat centres re-upholstered in alcantara at some point. Some relief from an all black/grey interior, such as contrast stitching, was quite important to me but purely personal taste.
My standard exhaust sounds better than I was expecting but it's easy enough to change if I find I'm getting jealous of other owner's noise!
Like you I also really wanted the palladium roof but very much depends on the colour of the car.
Finally, some don't like the 5-spoke alloys. I've got super lightweights in stealth finish but many prefer the look of silver wheels.
I was very keen to get one from an official Mac dealer or AB. When I consider that between agreeing a sale and taking delivery my car had both doors, both front wings and the bumper replaced, together with the PPF, I'm glad I did. There seems little if any official dealer "premium" at the moment.
I really wanted the main constituents of the lux and security packs, although the security pack (lift, camera/ F/R parking sensors and cover) were the really important ones for me (apart from the cover!). Lecky seats was a must for me as well purely because I have back issues and it's useful to be able to easily change settings without losing the "ideal" configuration. The fact they came as part of the lux pack, with B&W and soft close, was a welcome bonus.
I haven't listened to the standard audio at length but have compared eight-speaker with my B&W and although the latter is better it's not night and day. Some don't like the look of the nautilus tweeter atop the dash but I quite like it and I also think the B&W door speakers look much better.
The basic carbon interior is quite important I think. Not just because of the paddles but the centre console and screen surround look much classier than the standard plastic.
Many consider alcantara interior a must. Mine's got full leather but I'm not overly bothered, although I may get the seat centres re-upholstered in alcantara at some point. Some relief from an all black/grey interior, such as contrast stitching, was quite important to me but purely personal taste.
My standard exhaust sounds better than I was expecting but it's easy enough to change if I find I'm getting jealous of other owner's noise!
Like you I also really wanted the palladium roof but very much depends on the colour of the car.
Finally, some don't like the 5-spoke alloys. I've got super lightweights in stealth finish but many prefer the look of silver wheels.
I was very keen to get one from an official Mac dealer or AB. When I consider that between agreeing a sale and taking delivery my car had both doors, both front wings and the bumper replaced, together with the PPF, I'm glad I did. There seems little if any official dealer "premium" at the moment.
Agree with the majority here..
Lift - Essential
Soft Close - Nice, but can be retrofitted after.
B&W - I only have the standard stereo and its fine. B&W would be a nice to have for me but not a deal breaker
Sports Exhaust - Also not a deal breaker. Can be fitted after, or even better get an aftermarket exhaust if you really want some additional noise. Never found a huge difference between standard and sport. Never heard the MSO exhaust though
Interior carbon - This was a must for me, similar thinking with the paddles and it lifts the interior a bit.
Reverse Camera and Sensors would be a must for me, but imagine they wouldn't be difficult to retrofit.
Colour, probably the most important for me. Buy the colour you want.
Lift - Essential
Soft Close - Nice, but can be retrofitted after.
B&W - I only have the standard stereo and its fine. B&W would be a nice to have for me but not a deal breaker
Sports Exhaust - Also not a deal breaker. Can be fitted after, or even better get an aftermarket exhaust if you really want some additional noise. Never found a huge difference between standard and sport. Never heard the MSO exhaust though
Interior carbon - This was a must for me, similar thinking with the paddles and it lifts the interior a bit.
Reverse Camera and Sensors would be a must for me, but imagine they wouldn't be difficult to retrofit.
Colour, probably the most important for me. Buy the colour you want.
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