Carbon wrapping
Discussion
I've been offered a 720 which has an excellent spec from a functionality perspective but no exterior carbon at all. It's not a deal breaker but wondered if anyone has gone down the route of carbon wrapping the parts normally covered in packs 1, 2 or 3 and if so, any thoughts on the result and recommendations.
Wrap or hydro dipping ?
I think both are possibilities.
TBH if I was ordering a new 720S I would go with the MSO black pack.
The gloss black looks good to me at a fraction of price and you don't have to worry to much about damaging an expensive carbon part.
Ok real carbon is wonderful but never worth the added expense from new. Better value 2nd hand though where someone else has burdened the majority of cost
I think both are possibilities.
TBH if I was ordering a new 720S I would go with the MSO black pack.
The gloss black looks good to me at a fraction of price and you don't have to worry to much about damaging an expensive carbon part.
Ok real carbon is wonderful but never worth the added expense from new. Better value 2nd hand though where someone else has burdened the majority of cost
JDH1 said:
I've been offered a 720 which has an excellent spec from a functionality perspective but no exterior carbon at all. It's not a deal breaker but wondered if anyone has gone down the route of carbon wrapping the parts normally covered in packs 1, 2 or 3 and if so, any thoughts on the result and recommendations.
It would be virtually impossible to replicate the 3 exterior carbon packs entirely with a wrap or dip, although possible to do some parts. Whether the finish is any good depends on who does it etc.In any event it will almost certainly devalue the resale.
Best to leave as it is or replace with Carbon parts as funds allow
Rocketreid said:
It would be virtually impossible to replicate the 3 exterior carbon packs entirely with a wrap or dip, although possible to do some parts. Whether the finish is any good depends on who does it etc.
In any event it will almost certainly devalue the resale.
Best to leave as it is or replace with Carbon parts as funds allow
If its easily reversible I personally don't see it devaluing car ar resale as you simply remove it pre sale or as part of the deal.In any event it will almost certainly devalue the resale.
Best to leave as it is or replace with Carbon parts as funds allow
I'm not a fan of wraps personally but depending on the quality of material and install its hard to spot difference IMHO - its the 1m test, ok up close and under close scruitniatuon you can spot it but from 1m 99% wont
Interesting replies. Opinions vary but I'd only be interested if it was done really well, hence the question whether anyone has done it on a 720s and how it looks.
As an aside, what are opinions on carbon parts? Wondering whether I've been brainwashed into wanting it? Wouldn't really think about it on a Porsche, say, and most 'laymen' wouldn't notice it anyway.
As an aside, what are opinions on carbon parts? Wondering whether I've been brainwashed into wanting it? Wouldn't really think about it on a Porsche, say, and most 'laymen' wouldn't notice it anyway.
JDH1 said:
Interesting replies. Opinions vary but I'd only be interested if it was done really well, hence the question whether anyone has done it on a 720s and how it looks.
As an aside, what are opinions on carbon parts? Wondering whether I've been brainwashed into wanting it? Wouldn't really think about it on a Porsche, say, and most 'laymen' wouldn't notice it anyway.
It’s like anything that’s nice though isn’t it? I had zero interest in carbon bits on Porsches until I saw a mega spec’d GT2RSwp with all the exposed carbon and against my better judgement thought it looked amazing. Once seen, anything less would have been a bit of a disappointment.As an aside, what are opinions on carbon parts? Wondering whether I've been brainwashed into wanting it? Wouldn't really think about it on a Porsche, say, and most 'laymen' wouldn't notice it anyway.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Isn’t it the sort of thing people snort at if it were a Corsa owned by a teenager?
A contrasting colour if anything but I think fake carbon is the height of naff.
How’s this any different to when ordering from new?A contrasting colour if anything but I think fake carbon is the height of naff.
Exposed Carbon fibre look vs palladium finish look is just that, the external visual look.
Did you think the palladium components are made out of palladium and only the carbon fibre look components are made of CF?!?!
To be clear all these components are made of the same CF materials irrespective of which finish you select.
My understanding is palladium is just painted plastic hence why the real carbon fibre components are so expensive. Its not just a top coat finish difference from what I have been told.
Ok the carbon is sold as being lightweight but lets face it the difference between a plastic panel and a real carbon fibre panel is negligible
Ok the carbon is sold as being lightweight but lets face it the difference between a plastic panel and a real carbon fibre panel is negligible
McLaren carbon parts are pre-preg dry carbon and I don’t think any of the palladium is painted CF, it’s plastic.
My 720S is fully loaded but I did have 2 parts which were not CF and so replaced them.
The weight difference was not massive but actually across the whole car it would add up.
CF is though largely vanity and aesthetics as it’s function is identical to CF
My 720S is fully loaded but I did have 2 parts which were not CF and so replaced them.
The weight difference was not massive but actually across the whole car it would add up.
CF is though largely vanity and aesthetics as it’s function is identical to CF
Fezzamania said:
I'm not a fan of wraps personally but depending on the quality of material and install its hard to spot difference IMHO - its the 1m test, ok up close and under close scruitniatuon you can spot it but from 1m 99% wont
There is absolutely zero chance you will get any carbon wrap or dip to immitate the herring bone carbon on Mclaren bumpers/engine covers.Flat panels "may" pass from a 1m test, but nothing with a shape (mirrors/side intakes) will come remotely close and if someone does spot its wrap/dip i would be personally be more than a little embarrased that the "carbon" on your 150k plus supercar, isnt!!
Streetbeat said:
There is absolutely zero chance you will get any carbon wrap or dip to immitate the herring bone carbon on Mclaren bumpers/engine covers.
Flat panels "may" pass from a 1m test, but nothing with a shape (mirrors/side intakes) will come remotely close and if someone does spot its wrap/dip i would be personally be more than a little embarrased that the "carbon" on your 150k plus supercar, isnt!!
I was shown a side intake on a 650S that had a Hexus wrap that was an exact match to the mclaren weave and didnt notice the difference to front and rear bumper which was real carbon until the owner pointed it out to me and even then it was hard to tell.Flat panels "may" pass from a 1m test, but nothing with a shape (mirrors/side intakes) will come remotely close and if someone does spot its wrap/dip i would be personally be more than a little embarrased that the "carbon" on your 150k plus supercar, isnt!!
Agree it may not be possible on highly curved parts like the wing mirrors due to the stretching potentially distorting the weave pattern in the wrap but with large flat panels it seemed great to me as a novice.
Maybe I'm easily fooled
JDH1 said:
As an aside, what are opinions on carbon parts? Wondering whether I've been brainwashed into wanting it? Wouldn't really think about it on a Porsche, say, and most 'laymen' wouldn't notice it anyway.
It's really down to aesthetics, and often at the expense of practicality - the performance difference is zero for road use, the weight difference probably about what a packet of sandwiches might be. For some things it does look good, but it's a personal preference. For other things, it's a bit of a pain - having a low front splitter (on any car) in carbon is asking for expensive hassle all the time as it bottoms out on a harsh compression, scrapes a speed bump, or similar - parts there need to be more sacrificial in form than jewel-like in appearance. For an engine cover, then the aesthetics make a big difference. Sometimes the carbon packs bring something else (e.g. the 570s interior carbon brings bigger (carbon) paddles which are easier to find. Depends on what you like and want.The practicality argument works the other way on resale, however: typically Ferraris have to have certain carbon packs for easy resale, and it seems to be the case that some Mc's are in that camp - but my observation would be that most Mc people are keener drivers and so the dynamics is of greater importance to them than the presence or absence of the carbon. Having said that, I would expect the price to reflect the lack of it by being lower.
) YouTube channel some carbon effect ppf that looked quite good. Might be worth a look.Gassing Station | McLaren | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff